Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2018-02-25
| 14:48 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Good day, lovejoy. :) |
| 14:48 | lovejoy2199 | Greetings Chancellor. Dean |
| 14:49 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Welcome, Elf. |
| 14:50 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Hm. Delays in rezzing of benches |
| 14:50 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | I hope i am sitting on one |
| 14:50 | Soup Jonson | Thanks Elf |
| 14:50 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | :-) |
| 14:53 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | _Now_ i can see the benches |
| 14:53 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Weird how that happens sometimes. |
| 14:53 | Frigid Cryotank | ?? There are benches? I thought someone had coded the floor to put the sit position "up" from the floor. |
| 14:55 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | There are indeed benches. |
| 14:55 | Frigid Cryotank | Second time today my viewer has malfunctioned. |
| 14:55 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | If they don't show up, a relog generally does the trick. |
| 14:55 | sɑrɑ (sweetvictoryx) | Why are we up in the sky though? |
| 14:55 | Frigid Cryotank | brb then. |
| 14:57 | Frigid Cryotank | Thank you.. fixed. |
| 14:57 | Phrynne | Sara, down in Oxbridge we are only allowed 20 people for the whole region. We can have that many in the audience here, if they want to come. |
| 14:57 | sɑrɑ (sweetvictoryx) | Ohh I see |
| 15:00 | RainyDayRecess | Hello everyone ;) |
| 15:00 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Hello, Rainy |
| 15:00 | Soup Jonson | :) Rainy |
| 15:00 | MisterDFB | Hi all :) |
| 15:01 | RainyDayRecess | :) |
| 15:01 | Soup Jonson | Welcome to your first Q&A Mister |
| 15:01 | MisterDFB | thank you, Soup |
| 15:02 | Gronk Seriman | Why so dark in here? Can we have the lights on? |
| 15:03 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | And Caledon's covenant that things in the sky need a means of being there, applies below 500m, so a number of things are literally built sky high, including this room (no propellers, no cavorite, no hot air balloon). |
| 15:03 | Oxbridge Donation Coin R1 (Alternate Lecture Hall) | Kara2016 gave a generous donation to help support classes and tutorials at Caledon Oxbridge Gateway. |
| 15:03 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Welcome Andrea, you made it. |
| 15:04 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | is very nauseous in rl |
| 15:04 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) gives Ms Jones some ginger | |
| 15:04 | Frigid Cryotank starts anti-virus software... | |
| 15:05 | RainyDayRecess | So sorry Andrea ;( |
| 15:05 | Gronk Seriman stops breathing. Avatars don't need air anyways. | |
| 15:05 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Welcome to this weeks Oxbridge Deans' Q&A. This is an open meeting. All or welcome unless individual mis-behaviour requires otherwise. A transcript will be posted after the meeting. |
| 15:05 | Batista Corleone (batistacorleone) | Have not seen Carl Metropolitan for a while - is he still around? |
| 15:06 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Carl, had sufficient RL things to deal with that he's retired from SL, at least for now. |
| 15:06 | Batista Corleone (batistacorleone) | thanks - good to know |
| 15:06 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | That occurred last April or May. |
| 15:07 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Phrynne, anything for today? |
| 15:07 | Phrynne | Yes, a few things. |
| 15:07 | Phrynne | I am trying to change something at Oxbridge every week -- you may have to look hard to see it sometimes. This week I turned on flower and blossom particles from every tree that has them. They are away from the plaza -- if they cause problems I can turn them off again. |
| 15:08 | Phrynne | Also -- I have been working on a notecard about what the average visitor to Oxbridge can do if there is a griefing incident while they are there. I've written a draft, and sent it to Word and Tasha for comments. |
| 15:08 | Phrynne | Tutorial translation update: Lindal has told me she plans to get through with renumbering and updating all of the textures in the tutorial within days. This means that when the new translations are ready, they can be put onto up-to-date textures. You may not have noticed, but in some parts of the tutorial more kiosks were added, or several different generations of textures were put in, and they make sense when you read them in order, but the numbering on them doesn't. She's fixing that. |
| 15:09 | Phrynne | That's all for now. /me looks over at Word. |
| 15:09 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Andrea, anything (including announcements)? |
| 15:10 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | Nothing much from my end, If you look in the independent state of Caledon group. there is a notecard on upcoming events for Caledon's birthday. 12 years |
| 15:10 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | I'll have a Tuesday night dance at the swamp in south end at 6 Tuesday night |
| 15:11 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | jazz blues |
| 15:11 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Nice! |
| 15:11 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | looks back at word |
| 15:11 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Thanks. Don't feel you need to stay further if you're not up to it. |
| 15:12 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | ty |
| 15:12 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Rainy? |
| 15:12 | RainyDayRecess | Nothing this week |
| 15:12 | Soup Jonson | Rainy :) |
| 15:12 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Elf and Gronk, anything from the plaza? |
| 15:13 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Somewhat peaceful week in general. |
| 15:13 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Rather many reasonable visitors. |
| 15:13 | RainyDayRecess | Nice ;) |
| 15:13 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | and a great big new dragon |
| 15:14 | Batista Corleone (batistacorleone) | what's "many" visitors, pls? |
| 15:14 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | New apprentices are also doing well. |
| 15:14 | Gronk Seriman | I have recently discovered a nice Windows 10 feature I'm learning to use. The Game Bar. You press Winlogo + G on your keyboard to bring it up. |
| 15:14 | MisterDFB | with 2 young babies :) |
| 15:14 | Soup Jonson | lol |
| 15:15 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | And, well, there has been Mr Cryotank's gadget :-) |
| 15:15 | Frigid Cryotank | <heh> |
| 15:15 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | interesting. |
| 15:15 | Gronk Seriman | It's fun! |
| 15:15 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | There always is one, Elf. ;) |
| 15:15 | Soup Jonson | Love it |
| 15:15 | Frigid Cryotank | It seems to attract a bad case of left-mouse-click OCD .. or cures it, not sure which. |
| 15:17 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | I got a copy of the new tutorial kiosk to Lindal, who is happy with it. At her suggestion, I did make a change to the flag textures plus adding room for one more. So, I think that's a finished deal. |
| 15:18 | RainyDayRecess | Yay! |
| 15:18 | Gronk Seriman | Nice! |
| 15:18 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Star brought to my attention a rather strange bug affecting Firestorm. I haven't seen it in the LL viewer. |
| 15:21 | Gronk Seriman | ?! |
| 15:21 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | If the viewer cant' determine the alpha setting of a prim (lag or other failure), it sets it locally to "none". If the avatar has edit rights, the viewer will apply that to the sim. The effect is that trees and other alpha-masked object will appear black locally, and in the case of mod rights, will become black for everybody. |
| 15:22 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | So, it's weird because simply the presence of an avatar can change what's seen. |
| 15:22 | Phrynne | that's very odd |
| 15:23 | star (astarynite) | https://gyazo.com/97998b078c20b0e98d2a6ed64b3ef47a |
| 15:23 | MisterDFB thinks | solution demanding? |
| 15:23 | star (astarynite) | I do not have mod rights on any of these, the trees were mod and the snowglobe which turned black as well may or may not have been mod |
| 15:23 | Gronk Seriman | That's news to me. Haven't seen that. I thought you were going to mention the occasional freezups Firestorm has lately. |
| 15:24 | star (astarynite) | everyone that I asked to come could see them |
| 15:24 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | And ran into another strange bug that also has some JIRA history at Curei's new art gallery. |
| 15:24 | star (astarynite) | I see it all the time Gronk, when I tp into places things change |
| 15:24 | MisterDFB freezeups yes :( | |
| 15:25 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Part of some mesh railings I made for her were picking up and displaying the texture from a nearby object. There's an older JIRA report of this happening for prims with full-bright and material properties (e.g normal maps). |
| 15:26 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | In surroundings with lots of objects. |
| 15:26 | Frigid Cryotank raises hand.. | |
| 15:27 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Next working on writeups for Phrynne, team sharing protocols on Google drive, and a new version of the Mesh class. |
| 15:27 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Okay, open for questions. |
| 15:27 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Frigid? |
| 15:27 | Frigid Cryotank | Word, do you visit other grids with your viewer? |
| 15:27 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | And, well, the Writers' Meeting is again next Thursday 11:00 SLT. |
| 15:28 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | I haven't with the LL one. |
| 15:28 | Frigid Cryotank | I have had inventory collisions with all but the LL viewer. |
| 15:29 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | I did install Singularity last year for VWBPE. |
| 15:29 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Part of that was on Avacon. |
| 15:30 | Frigid Cryotank | Anyway, I mentioned it 'cause it sounds like you were having the same kind of "Uh, What?" I was when all my freshly rezzed prims came out technicolor. |
| 15:30 | Gronk Seriman thinks her Inventory is a mess now. Collisions?!? | |
| 15:30 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Frigid, my impression has been that the 3rd part viewers come with both added features and added problems. |
| 15:31 | Frigid Cryotank | <heh> They do try for quality control... but even they aren't perfect. LL restricts theirs to their grids and keeps things to a common denominator. |
| 15:32 | MisterDFB wonders if Star had bad 'maps' on native LL vwr | |
| 15:32 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | A lot can also depend on timing between LL fixing something in their viewer and when others picked up the LL code last for their viewer. So fixed bugs in one can seem to revert in another. |
| 15:32 | Frigid Cryotank | That, too. |
| 15:33 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | The grid restrictions partly come from the Havok library licensing used for physics shape decomposition. |
| 15:33 | Frigid Cryotank shrugs. | |
| 15:34 | Frigid Cryotank | I've had texture corruption going both ways. A cache clear fixes it at the expense of a chunk of time needed by the viewer to restore viewing order. |
| 15:34 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | That's required 3rd party viewers to have two versions. |
| 15:35 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Yes. Nothing like that time I logged in and had translucent, rainbow library walls at Oxbridge. |
| 15:35 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Other questions? |
| 15:35 | MisterDFB | 'script drift', doesit exists? |
| 15:36 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | script drift? |
| 15:36 | MisterDFB | if program has too many scripts too deal with |
| 15:36 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Increases lag at times. |
| 15:37 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Increases lag if the sim in total is too loaded. |
| 15:38 | MisterDFB | or.. sequence of scripts.. can they cause bad mapping for instance? |
| 15:38 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | And a lot depends on if scripts are unnecessarily hammering timewise. |
| 15:38 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | The biggest problem would come in timing. |
| 15:39 | MisterDFB | thank you, I was just wondering, I only have minute programming experience :) |
| 15:39 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Other problems would tend to be if memory can't be obtained, but that would more likely just kill the script. |
| 15:39 | MisterDFB | ^ |
| 15:40 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Since scripts are memory limited to begin with I haven't seen that to be a problem. |
| 15:40 | MisterDFB | map positioning would be render coordinates? |
| 15:40 | MisterDFB | means map rendering |
| 15:42 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | There's a map button, but that's not part of a script. There's texture rendering, but that's only something that can be changed via script, any rendering is separate. |
| 15:43 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Within the viewer and sim. LSL is not a graphics language. |
| 15:43 | MisterDFB | thank you |
| 15:43 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | What one sees with too much load is time dilation. |
| 15:44 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | See ctrl+shift+1 (that's a one, not an L) |
| 15:44 | MisterDFB | :) |
| 15:45 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Other questions? |
| 15:45 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Then we are |
| 15:45 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | adjourned. |
| 15:46 | Phrynne | thank you for coming, everyone |
| 15:46 | Michael Macbeth (michaelneff.macbeth) | Thank you. |
| 15:46 | RainyDayRecess | Thank you Deans ;) |
| 15:46 | Gronk Seriman | "I see you quiver with anticip..." |
| 15:46 | Frigid Cryotank | Nice.. |
| 15:46 | MisterDFB | Thank you all |
| 15:46 | Gronk Seriman | "pation!" |
| 15:47 | Gronk Seriman | Thank you, Deans! |
| 15:47 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) shakes his head | |
| 15:47 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Bedtime for me. |
| 15:48 | Kara2016 | i had a blast. |
| 15:48 | Gronk Seriman | G'night, EB |
| 15:48 | lovejoy2199 | Goodnight, Elf |
| 15:48 | MisterDFB | Night, Elf |
| 15:48 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Hold the fort |
| 15:49 | RainyDayRecess | Night Elf ;) |
| 15:49 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Be seeing you |