Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2016-10-02

15:12 Wordsmith Jarvinen Let's begin. Phrynne, do you have anything for the day.
15:12 Wordsmith Jarvinen ?
15:12 Gronk Seriman Loiks like Andrea had the same idea.
15:13 Phrynne I have only one thing to report -- the Vehicle Sandboxes do not work.
15:13 Phrynne There are three of them, and I have checked -- all have the ability for anyone to rez anything turned off.
15:13 Wordsmith Jarvinen Can you expand on that a bit?
15:13 Wordsmith Jarvinen That rather defeats the concept of a sandbox.
15:14 Phrynne The Vehicle Sandboxes are places where you can try out any vehicle on all sorts of terrain -- hills, sand, roads, mountain, river...
15:14 Phrynne We have been sending people there for years, since vehicles aren't allowed at Oxbridge.
15:14 Phrynne I had a complaint from someone that he couldn't find the location where he should rez his motorcycle, so I went to check.
15:15 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Too many troublemakers?
15:15 Phrynne The land info options have been changed --instead of 'Everyone build
15:15 Phrynne it is group only
15:15 Phrynne Everyone can theoretically bring in objects -- bu they can't rez them.
15:15 Wordsmith Jarvinen Are these Linden owned or owned by a private group?
15:16 Phrynne These are Linden-owned.
15:16 Badass Fae (larkylouz) can one join the group and do it that way?
15:16 Phrynne No. It's a Linden-operated space.
15:16 Phrynne I have sent a complaint about this to Michael Linden, who is in charge of them, and in charge of Public Works.
15:16 Wordsmith Jarvinen Wonder if they are making them premium only.
15:16 Phrynne If they were premium only, I wouldn't have been able to go there.
15:17 Liška Bystrouška (liska.fuchs) And it has been duly filed and forgotten, probably
15:17 Phrynne no, they are still open to everyone -- but you can't do much.
15:17 Wordsmith Jarvinen Play in the sand?
15:17 Phrynne There are some interesting scenic bits for photographs, but you'll walk or fly yourself to get there.
15:17 Phrynne Maybe.
15:18 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hopefully, you get a reply or change for your message.
15:18 Phrynne This is one of several sorts of specialized sandboxes -- there are combat sandboxes, for testing weapons, for instance -- but this was one of hte most useful.
15:18 Phrynne I hope so.
15:19 Phrynne Anyway -- please, staff, take note and don't send anyone there until I hear back from Michael Linden or find out for myself that they work.
15:19 Phrynne That's all I have; RL occupied me too much this week.
15:20 RainyDayRecess Hi Jorge :D
15:20 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Huzzah! It's the Rezday boy!
15:20 Badass Fae (larkylouz) ;^)
15:20 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Congrats
15:20 Jorge Serapis *waves to everyone*
15:20 Liška Bystrouška (liska.fuchs) Does anyone know of alternative non-Linden areas which are vehicle friendly?
15:20 Wordsmith Jarvinen I'm pretty much in the same boat, Phrynne. I was on travel part of the week, prepping before that, and recovering afterward (two day meeting with < 4 hours sleep each prior night).
15:21 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) unfurls two flags and waves them
15:21 Jorge Serapis *throws an anvil at Elfbiter in affection!*
15:22 Wordsmith Jarvinen Technically there are Linden roads in the mainland, however, at least in the past, the sim crossings were ... "interesting".
15:22 Phrynne There are some motorcycle-based sims with fun roads, and I think some racecar sims. You might search?
15:22 Liška Bystrouška (liska.fuchs) I know of a good airfield, but not much there for land vehicles
15:22 Phrynne The Blake Sea is there for sailing, of course, and aircraft
15:23 Wordsmith Jarvinen I suppose one could drive below the surface.
15:23 Gronk Seriman I will need to check out some of the old Linden sandboxes I know to see if this is widespread.
15:23 Phrynne Please let me know what you find out, Gronk.
15:24 Wordsmith Jarvinen Please let me know what you find out, Miss Gronk.
15:24 Gronk Seriman Will do.
15:25 Wordsmith Jarvinen Bertram Keith was going to take over basic building, but had some disrupting life events occur.
15:26 Wordsmith Jarvinen I need to get out a general solicitation for teachers anyway, and have the uncommitted time to do it this week.
15:27 Wordsmith Jarvinen (Wonder if Aylaria can chase off any impending crises -- or snack on them)
15:27 Aylaria (emberell) I can always try, Wordsmith
15:27 Wordsmith Jarvinen :D
15:27 Aylaria (emberell) But usually I'm not a lot better than the sharks at crisis management
15:28 Wordsmith Jarvinen Jorge, did you have anything for this week.
15:28 Wordsmith Jarvinen ?
15:28 Jorge Serapis No and yes. :_)
15:28 Jorge Serapis I haven;t been able to work on furhter textures...
15:28 Jorge Serapis .. due to RL work commitments...
15:28 Jorge Serapis .. but I was intrigue at Carl's worry about the kiosk primmage shooting up.
15:29 Jorge Serapis So as a point of excercise...
15:29 Jorge Serapis I created my own version.
15:29 Jorge Serapis Even with language control buttons... it still rates as a 1 LI..
15:30 Jorge Serapis (It's a non functioning model.)
15:30 Phrynne scoots chair over in case Jorge wants to put it on the stage
15:30 Aylaria (emberell) Careful, Jorge, don't knock it over!
15:30 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) :-)
15:30 Jorge Serapis .. so I think that puts Carl's worry to rest.
15:30 RainyDayRecess Beautiful Jorge :)
15:31 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Lovely
15:31 Jorge Serapis (And thank you, Rainy. :_) )
15:31 Jorge Serapis ... and Larky. :-)
15:31 Aylaria (emberell) It is wonderful work!
15:31 Badass Fae (larkylouz) The buttons to my right? Those are flags of the language groups?
15:31 Wordsmith Jarvinen Making it function isn't difficult. Similar to the picture display example I use as an example script for Basic Scripting (although displaying a random language likely won't cut it).
15:31 Jorge Serapis Yes, larky...
15:32 Jorge Serapis .. Like I said.. I did this mostly as an excerciseto see if I could make a more detailed kiosk and still keep it to 1 LI.
15:32 Jorge Serapis If this was functioning as I imagine... by touching one of the flags...
15:32 Jorge Serapis .. the tutorial texture would switch for a pre detemined amount of time before returning to English.
15:33 Jorge Serapis If y'all chos to go that route, instead of the proximity sensor.
15:33 Wordsmith Jarvinen What's the limit on number of flags?
15:34 Jorge Serapis As to the individual number of buttons, I can't say off the top of my head..
15:34 Jorge Serapis ...I could probably increase it to 6 or so if I drop the curves on the kiosk.
15:35 Jorge Serapis Using the button, perhaps a possibility would be a single button accessing a drop down menu and selecting the language from there...
15:35 Jorge Serapis .. which in that case, the amount is unrestrained.
15:35 Wordsmith Jarvinen Right. Could even temp-rez the selector.
15:36 Jorge Serapis Well, if y'all choose th drop down menu, you'd not even need the button. Just let people know at the beginning to just click on the texture face to access a different language.
15:37 Jorge Serapis Again, that's for y'all to work out.. but the point was to allay Carl's fear of prims being eaten up over it.
15:37 Wordsmith Jarvinen Anyway, sounds like we have some options in implementing the kiosks.
15:37 Gronk Seriman We are teaching new people that can barely walk and look at things. I think recognizable flag buttons may be the best.
15:37 Jorge Serapis Speak of the devil. :_)
15:37 Carl Metropolitan Hi. I took a nap this afternoon. That was a bad idea.
15:38 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hi Carl.
15:38 Carl Metropolitan A question. What is the red and yellow flag?
15:38 Liška Bystrouška (liska.fuchs) Spain?
15:39 Jorge Serapis Spain for Spanish, Brazil for Portugese.
15:39 Carl Metropolitan Hmm... Would it be possible to half that texture and have one half be the Mexican flag?
15:39 Jorge Serapis Sure.
15:40 Jorge Serapis But then I can get patriotic and ask for a Puerto Rican flag. :-P
15:40 Carl Metropolitan Good point.
15:40 Gronk Seriman smiles
15:40 Liška Bystrouška (liska.fuchs) And the Venezuelans will feel slighted
15:40 Carl Metropolitan Is the spanish flag immediately recognizable to most spanish speakers?
15:40 Jorge Serapis *hopes carl realises J is teasing*
15:40 Jorge Serapis I would assume so.
15:41 Jorge Serapis Let me rephrase that: I would hope so.
15:41 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hmmm, that's a useful idea also, a single texture with multiple flags along it as a selector.
15:41 Liška Bystrouška (liska.fuchs) Why not buttons that simply say Espanol or Portugues?
15:41 Carl Metropolitan No. I am not. Spain has less native speakers of spanish than the US. And about 1/3th the number as Mexico
15:41 Jorge Serapis That's perfectly feasible.
15:42 Wordsmith Jarvinen Jorge, that says it's two prims, but I don't see the color of a child prim. What's the second prim?
15:42 Wordsmith Jarvinen (still LI 1, however)
15:42 Jorge Serapis ?
15:42 Jorge Serapis I get a 1 LI.
15:43 Carl Metropolitan But if the spain flag icon is recognizable then I guess it is okay.
15:43 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes. If I edit and click on more info, it says one object, 2 prims at the top, then LI 1 below.
15:43 Jorge Serapis Ah. the root prim here is the Brazilian flag button.
15:44 Jorge Serapis Mesh can come in under 1 LI, but SL rounds up the total LI to the nearest whole number.
15:45 Wordsmith Jarvinen Right. There's been creations where I've fought for the 0.1 that will make it round down.
15:45 Wordsmith Jarvinen It actual rounds to the nearest whole number -- not always up, but never zero.
15:45 Carl Metropolitan If we add more language icons, will that flip the display up another prim? How many can be added without doing that?
15:46 Jorge Serapis :-) Well, the proof of concept is there to allay that particular fear.
15:46 Jorge Serapis I think I can add up to five more language buttons if I drop the curved surfaces.
15:47 Wordsmith Jarvinen Or, I think we could use a single texture for selecting. Let me look that up.
15:47 Jorge Serapis (ie make the columns and the flag buttons square/rectangular.)
15:48 Jorge Serapis The vertices involved in a curved suface eat up a lot of the total LI.
15:48 Wordsmith Jarvinen I can determine where on my display screen I click to position a "laser pointer", that should be easily possible.
15:48 Carl Metropolitan Wow. That should cover us for ages!
15:48 Wordsmith Jarvinen I love the wood work you've textured in the front.
15:48 Jorge Serapis Thank you.
15:48 RainyDayRecess Yes, it's very nice
15:49 Badass Fae (larkylouz) I like the avatar holding the menu, too. Very SLish
15:49 Carl Metropolitan I like the wood, too
15:49 Carl Metropolitan Do you think there is any way you could make the columns brass though?
15:49 Jorge Serapis Sure.
15:50 Jorge Serapis Like so? :-)
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15:50 Liška Bystrouška (liska.fuchs) Looks Jacobean
15:51 Carl Metropolitan Oh Nice
15:51 Jorge Serapis A brass relief texture I have.
15:51 Wordsmith Jarvinen Carl, did you have anything for today?
15:52 Carl Metropolitan Did anyone annouce that the fundraiser last night organized by Andrea and DJed by Poppy raised ~4500L$ for Oxbridge?
15:52 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Yeah!
15:52 Gronk Seriman Woohoo!
15:52 Carl Metropolitan Even better.
15:52 Carl Metropolitan What was the total?
15:53 Carl Metropolitan I know 250 came in after it ended, so I was doing math in my head.
15:53 Wordsmith Jarvinen And sounds from Andrea that there's more to collect, correct Andrea?
15:54 Carl Metropolitan The art is beautiful Everyone should go see it. I wish I still had a museum, so I could buy and display some of it. Also, Phyrnne is a very talented RL photographer!
15:54 Badass Fae (larkylouz) :^)
15:55 Phrynne thank you, Carl!
15:55 Wordsmith Jarvinen And best we see if there are questions?
15:55 Wordsmith Jarvinen Oxbridge, SL, and beyond.
15:56 Carl Metropolitan Everyone should go see it. Really.
15:57 Wordsmith Jarvinen Questions, announcements, gripes, confusions?
15:58 Carl Metropolitan Do we have a sign warning people about rezzing boxes handed to them by strangers?
15:59 Carl Metropolitan I banned a person holding a screamer box last week that turned out to have been a newbie who didn't know how to get rid of it.
15:59 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Just an idea. The walls here are a bit blank. Perhaps we could sometime have a contest to display artwork? Or rotate it?
15:59 Carl Metropolitan We did a photo contest a few years back
15:59 Carl Metropolitan We could do a new one
15:59 Carl Metropolitan It was a contest/fundraiser
15:59 Carl Metropolitan People voted by contributing L$ to the photos they liked best.
15:59 Wordsmith Jarvinen Easy to do some display prims that rotate their display too -- even randomly.
16:00 Badass Fae (larkylouz) perhaps after the holidays die down
16:00 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Ah, that's a good worksaver, Wordsmith
16:00 Carl Metropolitan Good idea.
16:00 Badass Fae (larkylouz) I don't want ot trample on Andrea's show, nor on the Advent Calendar. And Samm's building show, too.
16:03 Wordsmith Jarvinen Any last tidbits before we adjourn?
16:03 Carl Metropolitan Don't take naps on Sunday afternoons.
16:03 Gronk Seriman That's the best way to watch NAPCAR, Carl!
16:04 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Can we ice skate on your seasonal pool, andrea, or is it fed by a nice hot sulfur spring?
16:04 RainyDayRecess Almost all Word :)
16:04 Badass Fae (larkylouz) :^)
16:04 Wordsmith Jarvinen Heck, one can lay down a dance floor, and Ice sheet, ....
16:05 Wordsmith Jarvinen (not at once)
16:05 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) remembers a dance event where host accidentally deleted the dance floor.....
16:05 Wordsmith Jarvinen (unless one is doing ice dancing)
16:05 Liška Bystrouška (liska.fuchs) Was it in a skybox, Elfbiter?
16:06 Wordsmith Jarvinen Well, Rainy can tell a story of a script of mine that instead of opening a door overturned the entire pool.
16:06 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Yes.....
16:06 RainyDayRecess My fault :( sorry
16:06 Liška Bystrouška (liska.fuchs) Happened to me at a joust once...
16:06 Liška Bystrouška (liska.fuchs) Raining jousters and horses
16:06 Wordsmith Jarvinen The documentation of Keyframe motion says it doesn't work in a child prim. That's incorrect, it works -- as if it were in the root prim.
16:08 Wordsmith Jarvinen Andrea, anything?
16:09 Wordsmith Jarvinen Well, adjourned.
16:09 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thank you all for coming.
16:09 RainyDayRecess Thank you Deans :)
16:09 Oxbridge Donation Coin R1 (Alternate Lecture Hall) Liška Bystrouška (liska.fuchs) gave a generous donation to help support classes and tutorials at Caledon Oxbridge Gateway.
16:09 Badass Fae (larkylouz) thank you, Deans and Citizens
16:10 Gronk Seriman I'd bet a few sims in Caledon need restarting. Including this one.
16:10 Phrynne Thanks for being here
16:10 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) I saw derailed train recently as well...
16:10 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) But anyway.
16:10 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Bedtime for me.
16:10 Gronk Seriman Than you. Deans and Chancellors!
16:10 Phrynne good night, Mr.Elfbiter
16:11 RainyDayRecess Night Elfbiter :)
16:11 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Sleep well, Mr. Elfbiter
16:11 Carl Metropolitan Goodnight
16:11 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Take care, all
16:12 lovejoy2199 Yes. It is that time again.