Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2016-09-04

14:57 Wordsmith Jarvinen Greetings, Andrea. Good to see you.
14:57 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Hi
14:57 RainyDayRecess Hey Andrea :)
14:57 Jeffrey0Thunderstone Ollyone of her today?
14:57 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) hi rainy
14:57 Brace Coral thanks for sitting up closer :)
14:57 Brace Coral less peering at my screen hehehe
14:58 RainyDayRecess (love the boots Andrea :)
14:58 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) ty
14:58 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) gran is home sick so no cookies today
14:58 Brace Coral awwz
14:58 Brace Coral hope she gets well soon :)
14:58 RainyDayRecess k, I think I have some left over from last week
14:58 Brace Coral hi five on the chair, Andrea!
14:58 Brace Coral !!W0ot WoOt!!
14:59 RainyDayRecess Nice :)
14:59 Brace Coral sooo comfy :D
14:59 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) benches are not working it seems
14:59 Carl Metropolitan I hope Phyrnne will be able to get online
14:59 AndreasWilliams I believe I can fly, I believe I can touch the sky... From this bench... ::)
14:59 RainyDayRecess :D
14:59 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) I didn't feel like getting dressed up taoday
14:59 Brace Coral heeere's ratburn!
15:00 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) my 90's grunge look
15:00 Brace Coral still good seats left :)
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Looks at the rules.... Nope, no dress requirement.
15:00 ratburn hi all
15:00 RainyDayRecess Hi :)
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hi ratburn
15:00 ratburn i will go and sit down
15:00 Carl Metropolitan Welcome everyone to Q&A With the Deans
15:01 Carl Metropolitan We are here to answer any questions you may have about Oxbridge, Caledon, and Second Life in general.
15:01 Brace Coral both ratburn and JinxIt are new - so Tutors/Helpers out there - feel free to sink ya claws into em!
15:01 Carl Metropolitan Normally we start with brief reports from the various areas the deans oversee.
15:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen (that's a figurative sink)
15:01 Carl Metropolitan Wordsmith looks like he's typing so, lets start with him.
15:02 Brace Coral I have carrots for Phrynne, hope she makes it back :)
15:02 Sage Willowbark (annmarie1956) Hello all
15:02 RainyDayRecess Hi :)
15:03 Wordsmith Jarvinen Sure (Phrynne is having viewer difficulties btw)
15:03 Brace Coral ouch
15:03 AndreasWilliams I come here to learn something, and I meet love of my life. Is that incredible?
15:03 Brace Coral Yay!
15:03 RainyDayRecess Lucky you!!
15:03 AndreasWilliams :)
15:03 Wordsmith Jarvinen Such things happen.
15:04 Wordsmith Jarvinen The stats behind me are partly destined for Phrynne, but also of general interest (possibly).
15:05 Wordsmith Jarvinen We have a number of free items in the railroad station and at the small kiosk behind it.
15:05 Carl Metropolitan No one seems to be taking my builders grid. I guess ten years was a good run :)
15:05 Brace Coral hehehe
15:05 Wordsmith Jarvinen We instrumented those a while back to collect touch statistics on those
15:06 Wordsmith Jarvinen (have to check if it's instrumented)
15:06 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) Hiya Z!
15:06 Brace Coral Zah made it! Welcome :)
15:06 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) hello
15:06 RainyDayRecess Hi ZahZha :)
15:06 Wordsmith Jarvinen So, from last November until the end of August I had 270 days of data.
15:07 Wordsmith Jarvinen The top graph shows how many touches were recorded for each item. The bottom graph shows total touches for each hour of data.
15:09 Wordsmith Jarvinen I haven't at this point tried to match hour of day to individual items.
15:09 Jeffrey0Thunderstone :)
15:09 Brace Coral Oh my!
15:09 ratburn I am a noob could you explain touches
15:09 ratburn thank you
15:10 Wordsmith Jarvinen When you touch (left click) on a freebie item a script inside the box gives the item to you.
15:10 ratburn ok thanks
15:10 Carl Metropolitan It is like websites measuring "click" on a link.
15:11 Wordsmith Jarvinen We also have a number of free avatars in the hall of avatar appearance which I'd previously done statistics on.
15:11 Wordsmith Jarvinen It let's us know what avatars are interested in and find useful.
15:12 Sage Willowbark (annmarie1956) I took one of all the female ones
15:12 Sage Willowbark (annmarie1956) It helped alot
15:12 Jeffrey0Thunderstone Just couriosity, Which came out on top?
15:13 RainyDayRecess Do you still have to be under 30 days old to get a free avatar?
15:13 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) When I first joined I was focused mainly on clothing... appearance stuff.
15:13 Carl Metropolitan No
15:13 RainyDayRecess Ah, okay ty
15:13 Carl Metropolitan It is no longer a requirement.
15:13 Wordsmith Jarvinen Great. That's the idea, to help people get situated.
15:13 Sage Willowbark (annmarie1956) I got them on my first day
15:13 Brace Coral Yup I snagged on one the other day
15:13 Brace Coral <--- over 30 days old :)
15:14 Wordsmith Jarvinen So, for classic avatar bodies, the clothes on those avatars are a resource along with the avatars themselves.
15:14 Brace Coral very much so
15:14 Jeffrey0Thunderstone Yup still ise them in outfits.
15:14 Jeffrey0Thunderstone *use
15:14 Wordsmith Jarvinen As are clothes for the classic avatars in the library folder.
15:15 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) I do too. Especially the Lord Thorns clothes. I like those.
15:15 Brace Coral alll the pretty dresses :)
15:16 Carl Metropolitan Just avoid the mesh avatars in the library. Those were a mistake on LL's part. If you want a mesh avatar, talk to one of the helpers who can explain the pros and cons of some of the very nice commercial mesh avatars out there.
15:16 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) Since switching to a mesh avatar I have found it challenging to find victorian style mesh clothing that fits ha ha.
15:16 Brace Coral the ones labeled (Mesh) after the names - those ones
15:16 Brace Coral the newer versions are better :)
15:17 Brace Coral you can mix and match the clothing with those
15:17 Wordsmith Jarvinen The first set of LL mesh avatars were not made to the standard sizes that clothes creators had agreed upon.
15:18 Carl Metropolitan The LL people in charge of them didn't even know there was such a thing :)
15:18 Brace Coral or underwear apparently
15:18 RainyDayRecess :D
15:19 Wordsmith Jarvinen So turning those avatars loose on new residents was not a kind thing nor helpful to helpers.
15:19 Carl Metropolitan Maybe the Lindens hung around the Welcome Areas and decided that no one wore underwear :)
15:19 Brace Coral LMAO
15:20 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) remembers the BAsic Account nonsense and thinks it was even more ridiculous...
15:20 Wordsmith Jarvinen Phrynne hasn't made it in yet, but had an announcement.
15:20 Wordsmith Jarvinen we will be having one or more college student groups coming through on Tuesday and Thursday between 1-3:30 SLT, from Lewis and Clark College in Oregon and University of Maryland (not sure about U MD, but it’s possible.) I have been in contact with the professors and gave them our class schedule (to work around) and told them a bit about SL manners for the gamers in the group (we are all people, not bots; don’t bump, etc.)
15:21 Carl Metropolitan That's good to hear.
15:21 Wordsmith Jarvinen Phrynne expects to be around at the time.
15:21 Brace Coral very cool :)
15:21 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) So are they studying VR worlds on the web?
15:21 Wordsmith Jarvinen Larky is out right now with her PC at the Geek Squad shop.
15:22 Wordsmith Jarvinen Not sure the "on the web" is applicable, but otherwise, yes.
15:22 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) cool
15:23 Sage Willowbark (annmarie1956) something has started grinding in mine on startup
15:23 Brace Coral eek!
15:23 Sage Willowbark (annmarie1956) think i need another hard drive
15:23 Wordsmith Jarvinen Does it smooth out after a few minutes?
15:23 Sage Willowbark (annmarie1956) yes
15:23 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) I've been getting a message about some Windows application.. only when in SL
15:23 Carl Metropolitan Back up your data immediately
15:23 Wordsmith Jarvinen Could be a fan bearing.
15:23 Carl Metropolitan If you have not already.
15:24 Wordsmith Jarvinen But do what Carl said also.
15:24 Sage Willowbark (annmarie1956) I'll have to open it up for next time I start it
15:25 Sage Willowbark (annmarie1956) That's the thing. How do you back up your data? To what?
15:25 Jeffrey0Thunderstone Flash drive.
15:25 Carl Metropolitan An external hard drive. A large enough USB thumb drive. DVD-ROM
15:25 Carl Metropolitan Cloud back up services
15:25 star (astarynite) isn't the data saved as links on SL?
15:26 Brace Coral This might help: http://www.howtogeek.com/242428/whats-the-best-way-to-back-up-my-computer/
15:26 Wordsmith Jarvinen External hard drive to a USB bus. Important stuff to a flash drive. Can also subscribe to backup services the upload important files and or save stuff to dropbox.
15:26 Sage Willowbark (annmarie1956) oh ok. I have a regular pc not a laptop
15:26 Jorge Serapis I use crashplan, a cloud backup along with an external drive.
15:27 Jorge Serapis 60 USD a year, a bit over a buck a week.
15:27 Carl Metropolitan If you have a free google mail account, I think you get a free 10 GB of storage space on that.
15:27 Wordsmith Jarvinen I'm similar, Jorge. External harddrive plus Carbonite. for cloud backup.
15:28 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) So.. what are the risks as far as SL goes? If you lost your hard drive.
15:28 Jorge Serapis I've got 2.2 terabytes. *smiles weakly*
15:28 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Your stuff is stored in LL serves
15:28 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Not in your computer
15:29 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) I figured....that.
15:29 Wordsmith Jarvinen Configuration and preferences and stored chat logs.
15:29 Gronk Seriman SL is actually quite safe. You really hold nothing but the viewer. Everything in your Inventory is on SL's servers.
15:30 Wordsmith Jarvinen Various things created for SL, blender files, PSD files, would be lost w/o backup.
15:30 Gronk Seriman Except for what Wordsmigh sais.
15:30 Carl Metropolitan As could textures.
15:30 Carl Metropolitan Also some viewers allow you to back up your prim-based creations.
15:31 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) I have an odd question..
15:31 Wordsmith Jarvinen Downloaded avatar mesh files.
15:32 Wordsmith Jarvinen Stynq?
15:32 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) Many times when I rez aircraft at the Iron Cloud or other places...
15:32 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) And then delete them when I am done...
15:32 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) I will log back on later, and there will be several copies in my trash folder.
15:32 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) Is that normal?
15:32 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes.
15:33 Carl Metropolitan For SL, yes.
15:33 Wordsmith Jarvinen Unless you rez one from trash or it's no copy.
15:33 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) I had mentioned it to Wrath, and he thought it odd. So I figured I'd ask. Thanks!
15:33 Carl Metropolitan Everytime you delete one, it goes into your trash folder as a separate item.
15:33 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) Well I do rez it from trash.
15:33 Wordsmith Jarvinen If you rez from normal inventory it creates a new copy. When you delete that, the new copy goes to trash.
15:34 Brace Coral to delete Permanently from trash - right click on item, choose Purge
15:34 Brace Coral goes away Forever
15:34 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) I keep a copy in trash of the ones I use often, so that I can rez and delete and not generate many copies. Seemed odd that that effort backfired.
15:35 Brace Coral yayyy Phrynne :)
15:35 Aggers (agatha.macbeth) Yay
15:35 Wordsmith Jarvinen It might be viewer dependent, but generally something I rez from trash disappears from there (that copy).
15:35 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) Right, I do that. I clean it out often. But I'll rez my one and only copy from trash, fly it around, then delete it back into trash. Then when I log back on, it is in there like three times.
15:35 Brace Coral haz carrots!
15:35 Wordsmith Jarvinen That's with the LL viewer.
15:36 Phrynne waves to Brace
15:36 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) Buneh.
15:36 Brace Coral slips a couple of carrots into Phrynne's pockets :)
15:36 Wordsmith Jarvinen Gave your announcement, Phrynne.
15:36 Phrynne nommnom
15:36 Phrynne thanks
15:36 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) It does for me when I rez it. Then it is back again when I delete it. No oddities. Only when I log out and back in, do other copies appear.
15:36 Aggers (agatha.macbeth) (She's late she's late for a very important date)
15:37 Brace Coral that does seem odd tho Stynq
15:37 Brace Coral I'll try that with my cars and see if I get multiples showing up in my trash
15:37 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) hmmm.. .does it keep multiplying every time you log in and out?
15:37 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) It isn't a problem at all, just seemed odd to me.
15:37 Brace Coral yeah
15:37 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) Only if I have rezzed and deleted it the previous session does it spawn additional copies.
15:38 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) I see...
15:38 Wordsmith Jarvinen Phrynne the graphs behind me are of interest to you (likely)
15:38 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) Oh, and I use Firestorm, just fyi.
15:38 Carl Metropolitan There are some very weird things that happen in inventory and trash. Keep in mind everything in anyones inventory or in world is represented by an assetID in LL's database. So if an assetID gets corrupted or duplicated, strange stuff happens.
15:38 Brace Coral oooooh
15:39 Phrynne I am waiting for everything not to be gray
15:39 RainyDayRecess :(
15:39 Gronk Seriman Things are not smoothe here tonight. Hardly anybody is sitting at the right height on the benches.
15:40 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) Hmm. Like I say, it isn't a problem since additional copies are easily purged. But thought I'd throw that out there, so to speak. Thank you. ツ
15:40 Gronk Seriman Took me several tries.
15:40 Brace Coral ty Stynq :)
15:40 Carl Metropolitan Next question for our panel of sort of experts
15:40 Brace Coral I love SL mysteries hehehe
15:40 Jeffrey0Thunderstone had to crash and return :)
15:40 Wordsmith Jarvinen Likely should get an update from Jorge.
15:40 Stynq FurRaver (destinkedfurraver.feldragonne) Cool. °͜°
15:41 Brace Coral and announcement from me :)
15:41 Jorge Serapis Project is all caught to and including 5.XX.
15:41 Phrynne I was trying to get in for 40 minutes.
15:41 Brace Coral Yay!
15:41 Carl Metropolitan Great work, Jorge!
15:41 Jorge Serapis I was hoping to have it all done by today, but Lindal has decided to update the existing textures.
15:42 Jorge Serapis So I'll wait until she's done so, so I know which ones I need to do all over again.
15:42 Jorge Serapis That's pretty much it from me.
15:43 RainyDayRecess Thank you for your hard work again Jorge :)
15:43 Wordsmith Jarvinen ty. Not sure what changes will come about in the tutorial when Bento comes ongrid.
15:43 Gronk Seriman That Lindal. She's such a Kidder.
15:43 Brace Coral lol
15:43 Jorge Serapis Don't thank me yet. Thank me when Lindal has the textures as current as she'd like.
15:44 Wordsmith Jarvinen Brace? (latching down his seatbelt)
15:44 Brace Coral oh I'm calm today :)
15:45 Gronk Seriman mutters "...at the moment!"
15:45 Brace Coral in just THREE DAYS.... our monthly FUNdraiser Salsa Dance Party kicks off!!
15:45 Brace Coral 7pm SLT on Weds the 7th
15:45 Brace Coral of Sept
15:45 Brace Coral so like....
15:45 Brace Coral save up your lindens
15:46 Brace Coral come as you are: or get dressed up - it's all good either way :)
15:46 Brace Coral if you are broke: BRING YO AZZ over to the event anyway Please :))
15:46 RainyDayRecess :D
15:46 Brace Coral ALL are invited to attend! donate your time, energy and YOU :)
15:46 Wordsmith Jarvinen Come even without Lindens as you can.
15:46 Brace Coral I'll be putting group notices up to remind yall
15:47 Brace Coral I've been exhausted and stuff this whole Summer, but I'm feeling energized, so I gonna ride that wave
15:47 Brace Coral Hope to see you all on Wednesday!
15:47 Brace Coral Thank You!
15:47 Wordsmith Jarvinen There's a notice and LM giver at the top of the schedules outside and inside the lecture hall.
15:47 Brace Coral its very fancy too - ty for hooking that up Wordsmith :)
15:47 Wordsmith Jarvinen downstairs.
15:48 Brace Coral I grin everytime i see it
15:48 Brace Coral oh! one last thing
15:48 Brace Coral Gotta Play: Make That Coin GLOW!
15:48 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) What is the fundraiser for?
15:48 Brace Coral great Question!
15:48 Oxbridge Donation Coin R1 (Alternate Lecture Hall) RainyDayRecess gave a generous donation to help support classes and tutorials at Caledon Oxbridge Gateway.
15:48 Brace Coral raising funds to keep Oxbridge up and running
15:48 Gronk Seriman Wow!
15:48 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) I see.
15:48 Brace Coral tier, fees, etc
15:48 Brace Coral payment for Instructors
15:49 Brace Coral so go ahead and toss a few lindens into this coin if you want to :)
15:49 Brace Coral .•*♥¨`• Applause•¨`♥*•.
15:49 star (astarynite) excuse me I have to run somewhere
15:49 Brace Coral spinnn!!! GLOWW!!
15:49 Brace Coral Yay!
15:49 Carl Metropolitan Any other questions tonight?
15:49 Carl Metropolitan We sometimes know stuff.
15:49 Wordsmith Jarvinen We pay approximately 75k $L per quarter for tier and have an instructor stipend of 250 $L per class taught.
15:50 Brace Coral so every lil bit helps :)
15:50 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) I see.
15:50 Brace Coral If you want to be an official awesome monthly Donor type person: IM me
15:50 Jeffrey0Thunderstone Any idea yet what new Avi arrivals are now that the School year has started?
15:51 Gronk Seriman In general terms, how has Oxbridge's budget and savings been lately? Fat, good or slim?
15:51 Wordsmith Jarvinen Marion Questi is out for a few weeks, but will be processing that (i.e. data is being collected)
15:52 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) Is our income mainly donor based?
15:52 Carl Metropolitan Yes. It is donor based.
15:53 Wordsmith Jarvinen We have been quite stable, but that comes from paying attention to such matters.
15:53 Gronk Seriman Ah! Good.
15:53 Brace Coral sponsors, donors, yes
15:53 Brace Coral gah! sorry lagging out
15:53 Jeffrey0Thunderstone You can see the current stats from the floating text above the coins.
15:54 Wordsmith Jarvinen Something around 300k $L in the account with next tier due the beginning of October.
15:54 Gronk Seriman Wow! Good! Abd t's a new month.
15:54 Brace Coral of interest: http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/sponsors.php
15:55 Brace Coral most help/edu-only orgs in SL are non-profit
15:55 Brace Coral and run on donations to survive
15:56 Brace Coral Some have shops to help raise funds, and/or rent out spaces etc
15:56 Brace Coral its a THING
15:56 Wordsmith Jarvinen A number of the non-English ones have been highly unstable.
15:56 Brace Coral many don't make it *nods*
15:57 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) Well Oxbridge has been a fantastic help to me
15:57 Wordsmith Jarvinen Oxbridge manages by being a homestead sim --- hence the 20 avatar limit.
15:57 Brace Coral :)
15:57 Wordsmith Jarvinen And having community support.
15:57 Brace Coral huggs Zah :)
15:58 Carl Metropolitan Any final questions?
15:58 Wordsmith Jarvinen Andrea, annoucements?
15:58 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Hmm Oh Probably will have a dance at the pub tues night
15:58 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Irish
15:58 Oxbridge Donation Coin R1 (Alternate Lecture Hall) ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) gave a generous donation to help support classes and tutorials at Caledon Oxbridge Gateway.
15:59 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) plus hollies weddingis monday I believe
15:59 Brace Coral Yay!
15:59 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) nice.
15:59 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) check the group notices some time abck to find it
16:00 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Yes dance tues night at 6
16:00 Brace Coral after-event photo op will be happening - so come on down
16:01 Carl Metropolitan Thank you all for coming tonight.
16:01 Jules Doghouse hugs
16:01 Brace Coral .•*♥¨`• Applause•¨`♥*•.
16:01 RainyDayRecess Thank you Deans
16:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen ty all.
16:01 Brace Coral YAAAAaaAaAAaYYYy
16:01 ZahZha Pocolypse (zahzhapocolypse) TY
16:01 Gronk Seriman Thank you, Deans and Chancellors!
16:01 Sage Willowbark (annmarie1956) yw
16:01 Sage Willowbark (annmarie1956) ty everyone
16:01 Brace Coral gather ye all around Wordsmith for picture!
16:02 Brace Coral hehehe
16:02 Brace Coral gotta hit my dramatic pose
16:02 Wordsmith Jarvinen Catch me while I'm gather transcripts, etc.