Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2016-01-03

14:51 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Hi Fidgets! How's it going?
14:51 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) Ms. Fae! A pleasure to see you. I am learning, slowly and steadily!
14:51 Wordsmith Jarvinen Sends a message pigeon over to Phrynne at the far pavilions.
14:52 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Good job. I often see your name at our classes. I hope you're finding a lot of fun stuff here.
14:53 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) There's so much to learn! It's a continuing process! I'm so excited now that I can ask some questions ... when I first came, it was all so new that none of it made sense.
14:53 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Oh yes. I'm still finding more to learn than I have time for!
14:53 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) That's a great thing to hear! It means I'll never get bored!
14:54 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) One have to have sone idea of a potential answer before they can formulate a pertinent question....
14:54 Badass Fae (larkylouz) grins. "Exactly!"
14:54 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) Yes, Mr. Skysmith. That is very true!
14:54 PiperFawn nods
14:55 Wordsmith Jarvinen I remember that as a closing line of a sci-fi story. A computer that could answer anything -- but you had to know most of the answer in order to ask the question.
14:56 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) written by Robert Sheckley (addendum by WSJ: Ask a Foolish Question)
14:56 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) Wow that sounds like a tale to read! Thank you for the author, I'll look it up in the physical world!
14:56 PiperFawn 42
14:56 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) Always a good answer Piper!
14:56 PiperFawn :)
14:57 Wordsmith Jarvinen I love these conversations where we reference that same story.
14:57 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Makers of the computers were too advanced - the questions they had programmed into the Answerer were too advanced. So none of the younger species - humans included - did not know what questions to ask.
14:57 Badass Fae (larkylouz) What's "42" mean? Part of the story?
14:57 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Different author
14:57 Phrynne It is the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything
14:57 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) Yes, I was having trouble thinking of the title. Thank you Phrynne!
14:58 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Hitchhikters Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams.
14:58 Wordsmith Jarvinen from Doug Adams, Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy.
14:58 Phrynne And all the sequels
14:58 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) Yes! I loved all those!
14:58 azn min alnnufus (itoibo) I enjoyed the Foundation Series. Sort of determinnistic.
14:59 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hari Sheldon
14:59 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) I remember it vaguely, azn. But I'd have to re-read them to fully remember.
14:59 azn min alnnufus (itoibo) Yes. Been a long time myself.
15:00 Gronk Seriman In order to grok in fullness?
15:00 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) Yes!
15:00 Phrynne exactly
15:00 azn min alnnufus (itoibo) I loved it when they did I Robot and Bicentenial man as movies.
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Lindal's inworld, so I expect an arrival momentarily.
15:00 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) Oh Gronk! That was a brilliant phrase!
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Gronk's grok.
15:00 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) **chortle**
15:01 Badass Fae (larkylouz) I should reread that one. I expect I would understand it better now than when I read it the first time. Quite a strange book.
15:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome, Lindal.
15:02 Phrynne hello Linda
15:02 Phrynne *Lindal
15:02 Lindal Kidd hello all!
15:02 PiperFawn Hello :)
15:02 Wordsmith Jarvinen hmmm I should have queried Tasha if she could make it.
15:03 Wordsmith Jarvinen Lindal, are you going to have to run?
15:03 Lindal Kidd no!
15:03 Wordsmith Jarvinen Phrynne?
15:03 Phrynne I'm here
15:04 Phrynne may have to reach for plate of food at some point
15:04 Phrynne but not going anywhere
15:04 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome all. This is the weekly Oxbridge Deans' Q&A. Our chance to mention what we've been doing. Yours to ask questions on Oxbridge, SL, and life the universe and everything.
15:05 Wordsmith Jarvinen Phrynne?
15:05 Phrynne No big report this week.
15:05 Phrynne It's been busier than usual, because of Christmas/New Year's/Kwanzaa/Hanukkah vacations,
15:05 Phrynne which has kept me busy at the plaza.
15:06 Phrynne The Advent Calendar has been packed up for next year, but the Christmas decorations will stay up for three more days.
15:06 Phrynne Jan. 6 is the Orthodox Church date for Christmas -- and also the end of the British 12 Days of Christmas.
15:06 Phrynne and that's it.
15:06 PiperFawn :)
15:06 Wordsmith Jarvinen Winter will continue for a while?
15:06 Phrynne As far as I have heard, it will continue until February
15:07 Phrynne so feel free to come skate on our pond at the college!
15:07 Wordsmith Jarvinen So, still time to skate, drink hot chocolate, cider, sit by the fire, ..
15:07 Phrynne yes
15:07 Wordsmith Jarvinen Lindal?
15:08 Lindal Kidd I'd like to remind all of us that people may not be what they seem...I encountered a fellow at the entry portal last night who was over EIGHT YEARS old...but still a newbie. He'd just unearthed his old account and decided to give SL a try..
15:08 Lindal Kidd really rocked me back for a minute!
15:08 Wordsmith Jarvinen Time warp.
15:08 Phrynne We've had a significant number of people like that this year.
15:08 Lindal Kidd yes, he was wearing an old, old avatar too
15:09 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Returning ones
15:09 Lindal Kidd other than that, I've been continuing to work on a faculty kit update. Phrynne and Larky have sent me tons of stuff to integrate.
15:09 Badass Fae (larkylouz) more is coming, Lindal. Slowly.
15:10 Lindal Kidd thank you. I think.
15:10 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Some will be stuff you can pull out, if that helps.
15:10 Lindal Kidd ::)
15:10 Lindal Kidd that's all from Information, Word
15:10 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thanks.
15:11 Wordsmith Jarvinen Reminds me though, Phrynne, you're still keeping track of the shifting world of foreign help centers and passing that to Lindal for the next update?
15:12 Phrynne Yes -- whenever I find that one has gone, or moved, or changed from General to Moderate, I post a notice on the COU chat and notices. And if it's not an immediate matter, I sent out notecards directly
15:12 Phrynne Some of them -- Virtual Spain, for example, were moving every month.
15:12 Phrynne for a while, but seem to have settled down now
15:13 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Fingers crossed...
15:13 Wordsmith Jarvinen And you've recently tagged the Greek language help as closed and the France Aide as not helpful.
15:14 Phrynne France Aide is there, but seems to have a troll infestation.
15:15 Wordsmith Jarvinen Which is distinguishable from simple French perverseness, I presume (being partly of French descent).
15:15 Lindal Kidd mais oui, mon Chancellor
15:15 Phrynne I'd say so.
15:15 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) And no Romanian in sight...
15:16 Lindal Kidd if anyone hears of an Asian help area, it would be good news, too
15:16 Wordsmith Jarvinen For those who aren't aware of it, we do try to be able to refer non-English speakers to where they can be helped as well as using translators at Oxbridge.
15:16 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) raises her hand
15:16 Wordsmith Jarvinen Norvil?
15:17 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) what translator do you recomend? i speak English, but fine many who speak other languages
15:18 Lindal Kidd most translators have stopped working. Q-Translate is good, but pricey.
15:18 Phrynne MH Translator is about the same as the Q-Translate, and also costly.
15:18 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) about how much will it set me back?
15:18 Lindal Kidd there is one free one that works, but it's only at an Adult area in world, but is also on the Marketplace
15:18 Phrynne Many of the free ones either don't work or are no longer available.
15:19 Wordsmith Jarvinen Virtual Haven (??) mentioned they have one. (Gentle Herron)
15:19 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) two that i have quit working
15:19 Phrynne Any translators that use Google Translate probably will not work.
15:19 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) My pardon, but I live at VAI, (Virtual Ability) and it's Gentle Heron -- but I don't know about translators -- that's part of the admin team.
15:20 Lindal Kidd both Google and Microsoft went to a fee for service model for their translation service
15:20 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) However, she is very amenable and easy to approach.
15:20 Wordsmith Jarvinen ty Fidget. I was hoping someone would correct me on that.
15:20 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) My pleasure to be part of the community Mr. Jarvinen.
15:20 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Virtual Ability, Wordsmith
15:21 Wordsmith Jarvinen Gentle Heron did post in the last several weeks about a translator.
15:22 Lindal Kidd it's Professor Samm! Hope you brought the crickets!
15:22 Samm Florian *chirp chirp*
15:22 Wordsmith Jarvinen Actually Google went to a fee-only model and Microsoft went to a rather complex key arrangement but still has a free monthly quoata.
15:23 Wordsmith Jarvinen Oxbridge staff use a translator built on the latter that I set up, but it's obviously for limited distribution.
15:24 Samm Florian uses the cut-and-paste-into-Google-Translate-real-fast method.
15:24 Wordsmith Jarvinen That doesn't prevent someone who is interested from setting up their own accounts, having their own web-interface, and using the software.
15:25 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome, Samm (Asst Dean of Education and informally Asst Dean of Engines).
15:25 Samm Florian waves.
15:25 Samm Florian is relieved she weren't promoted.
15:26 Wordsmith Jarvinen Have anything to report on, Samm.
15:26 Samm Florian Nope, typist jes got back from vacation is all
15:26 Wordsmith Jarvinen kk Leaves me.
15:27 Wordsmith Jarvinen With no immediate Oxbridge crises, I'm trying to more often actually teach my two classes (and not cancel).
15:28 Wordsmith Jarvinen The rest that's going on is mostly scripting in several areas: schedules, CATs, and incident manager.
15:29 Wordsmith Jarvinen And, a bit more fun, getting out to Caledon events and networking.
15:30 Wordsmith Jarvinen That's it for reporting, open for questions.
15:32 Wordsmith Jarvinen No questions, community reports, etc?
15:32 Gronk Seriman Chancellor Jarvenin, the Land Ownership maps you showed the other day, were they generated some way, or did you have to drew them by hand?
15:33 Gronk Seriman *draw
15:33 Wordsmith Jarvinen No, I wrote a script that will survey a sim for parcels on a 4mx4m basis, since parcel boundaries are always on a multiple of 4 meters.
15:34 Wordsmith Jarvinen That data was pushed up to our website where I grabbed it. The plots were done via Python scripting.
15:34 Samm Florian Ooh, maps! Can I see?
15:35 Aeval Luna (avelluna) I would also like 1
15:35 Wordsmith Jarvinen Just a sec
15:35 Aeval Luna (avelluna) thanks
15:36 Lindal Kidd pictures Word frantically pawing through piles of paper on his desk...
15:36 Gronk Seriman Very nice! I was hoping you weren't having to travel an entire sim with a measuring tape.
15:36 Wordsmith Jarvinen About that. Go ahead and do other questions while I look
15:38 Lindal Kidd Rumors of SL's demise are (as always) exaggerated. In one class, we look at the number of "diamond necklaces" for sale on the Marketplace. When I began the class, it was around 12,000. Now it's nearly 15,000, and still going up.
15:39 Wordsmith Jarvinen No, I don't have to travel, and even the parcel surveyor doesn't have to travel.
15:39 Samm Florian Izzit a map of one sim, or all of Caledon?
15:39 Wordsmith Jarvinen no
15:39 Badass Fae (larkylouz) The village and Southend, I think, Samm?
15:40 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Don't quote me.
15:40 Gronk Seriman It was a map of Oxbridge, and the three sims east.
15:41 Samm Florian What's th'colors represent?
15:42 Wordsmith Jarvinen The darker blue is commonwealth land; the lighter blue is land owned by Jorge Serapis (landing pads)
15:43 Wordsmith Jarvinen The rest of the colors mark owner changes in parcels such that no two adjacent parcels with different owners have the same color.
15:43 PiperFawn I have a question if we still have time
15:44 Wordsmith Jarvinen We do.
15:45 PiperFawn I attended Dean Kidd's Smart Shopper lecture earlier today. She mentioned there are some people in Sl who can make a living off SL alone. Is there a blog or something about those successful SL full-time businesses please?
15:46 Wordsmith Jarvinen Lindal or others?
15:46 Phrynne I know of nothing current.
15:46 Wordsmith Jarvinen It's very much an artisan economy. And with mesh advances keeps changing.
15:47 Lindal Kidd not exactly...but I recommend The Drax Files videos, on YouTube
15:47 Wordsmith Jarvinen Fashion is major, put there are also non-clothing items.
15:47 Lindal Kidd Drax interviews many prominent or notable SL citizens
15:47 PiperFawn The Drax Files - I will look into it, thank you! :)
15:48 Wordsmith Jarvinen The basic key is to be able to make items that others will buy, considering what's available at the current time.
15:48 PiperFawn Thank you
15:48 Lindal Kidd <---is still waiting for someone to make an ice boat
15:48 Gronk Seriman I wonder who are more successful...the Artisans or the Land Barons.
15:49 PiperFawn Ice boat?
15:49 Oxbridge Donation Coin R1 (Alternate Lecture Hall) Fidget (fidgetswidgets) gave a generous donation to help support classes and tutorials at Caledon Oxbridge Gateway.
15:49 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) I must go, we have a house-warming for a new resident at VAI tonight and I must have a quick nap. Thank you all for the links, book titles, and SL/COU information! I'm hoping to attend another class here Friday night.
15:49 Lindal Kidd you know...those sailboats on skates
15:49 Fidget (fidgetswidgets) Safe Journyeys!
15:49 Wordsmith Jarvinen Since SL prices are well below RL prices, that also means dealing in volume.
15:49 PiperFawn I have never heard of a sail boat on skates lol noted :)
15:49 Lindal Kidd they go really really fast
15:49 PiperFawn :)
15:49 Phrynne you'd need to have a lot of frozen area to sail one in SL
15:50 PiperFawn I heard there's a lot of ice at the SLool
15:50 PiperFawn SLo;e
15:50 PiperFawn SLole
15:51 PiperFawn I will look into it. Thank you :)
15:52 Wordsmith Jarvinen For beyond the limits of SL one might also look at hypergrid business. http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/
15:53 PiperFawn Thank you :)
15:54 Wordsmith Jarvinen Other questions?
15:54 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) raises hand
15:54 Norvil (Norvil Skeltragor) raises hand
15:55 Wordsmith Jarvinen Norvil?
15:55 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) I just got a new translator and wonder if anyone here can speak to me who has another language besides english?
15:55 Norvil (Norvil Skeltragor) I just got a new translator and wonder if anyone here can speak to me who has another language besides english?
15:56 PiperFawn in IM?
15:56 WSJ-Trans Name: Norvil Skeltragor
15:56 WSJ-Trans UUID: 61097666-3964-4ddb-9d50-f464fc6b29ce
15:56 WSJ-Trans Norvil Skeltragor => it
15:56 PiperFawn or here?
15:56 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) here please
15:56 Norvil (Norvil Skeltragor) here please
15:56 WSJ-Trans here please
15:56 Phrynne Translators generally don't work in IM
15:56 PiperFawn German?
15:56 Wordsmith Jarvinen Well, I suppose one can.
15:56 WSJ-Trans Beh, suppongo che si può.
15:57 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Epäilen konekäännöksen tehokkuutta
15:57 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) thank you wsj
15:57 WSJ-Trans Thank you wsj
15:57 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Generally, translators don't work in IM.
15:57 PiperFawn Guten Abend Norvil, wie geht es Ihnen?
15:57 Wordsmith Jarvinen Perhaps a bit of Italian?
15:57 WSJ-Trans Forse un po' di Italiano?
15:57 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Habla usted Espanol?
15:57 Lindal Kidd bonjour, mademoiselle Norvil. Comment ca va?
15:57 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Ja sitä tunnistaako ohjelma tätä kieltä lainkaan.
15:57 Samm Florian Howdy y'all!
15:57 Phrynne il gatto mangia el burro
15:57 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) yes it works, do you receive translations from me?
15:57 WSJ-Trans Yes it works, do you receive translations from me?
15:58 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Only that initial "here please"
15:58 Wordsmith Jarvinen Samm, y'all speak country?
15:58 WSJ-Trans Samm, tutti voi parlare di paese?
15:58 Badass Fae (larkylouz) grins
15:58 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Tuliko tästä mitään selvää?
15:58 Samm Florian Reckon it was worth tryin'. :)
15:58 WSJ-Trans Avatar Mappings
15:58 WSJ-Trans 0: Norvil Skeltragor => it
15:58 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) fae, yours isn;t translating
15:58 Norvil (Norvil Skeltragor) fae, yours isn;t translating
15:58 WSJ-Trans FAE, yours isn; t translating
15:59 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Ei taida kääntää tätäkään
15:59 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) is your default language es or en
15:59 WSJ-Trans Unmapping: Norvil Skeltragor => it
15:59 WSJ-Trans is your default language es or en
15:59 Norvil (Norvil Skeltragor) is your default language es or en
15:59 Badass Fae (larkylouz) English, Norvil.
15:59 Lindal Kidd I think you have to tell it what language to translate into
15:59 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) elfbbiter i got your translation,
15:59 Norvil (Norvil Skeltragor) elfbbiter i got your translation,
15:59 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Olen suuresti yllättynyt
16:00 Badass Fae (larkylouz) I wonder if it affects things if I forget the tilde on the n, for example?
16:00 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) might
16:00 Norvil (Norvil Skeltragor) might
16:00 Jorge Serapis Que necesitas?
16:00 Jorge Serapis Una lengua mas facil?
16:00 Badass Fae (larkylouz) RL calls. Happy new year, everyone.
16:00 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) elfbiter is it giving your translation?
16:00 Norvil (Norvil Skeltragor) elfbiter is it giving your translation?
16:00 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Ei tänne tule käännöstä.
16:01 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) ok, got to work on it
16:01 Norvil (Norvil Skeltragor) ok, got to work on it
16:01 Lindal Kidd the Finnish Stress Test
16:01 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) I wonder how.........amusing the translations were.......
16:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen Likely a good point to adjourn the formal meeting. Thank you all for coming.
16:01 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) sorry for the interruption
16:01 Norvil (Norvil Skeltragor) pahoillani keskeytyksestä
16:01 Gronk Seriman Thank you, Deand!
16:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen Not a problem
16:02 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) I could try thuum but I think I have to try to get some sleep now...
16:02 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) not elfbiter?
16:02 Norvil (Norvil Skeltragor) ei elfbiter?
16:02 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) does it work?
16:02 Norvil (Norvil Skeltragor) toimiiko se?
16:02 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Jotenkuten.
16:02 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) good night all
16:02 Norvil (Norvil Skeltragor) hyvää yötä kaikille
16:02 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Somewhat.
16:03 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) But anyway. BEdtime for me...
16:03 PiperFawn Einen schönen Abend!
16:03 Norvil (norvil.skeltragor) buenas noches
16:03 Norvil (Norvil Skeltragor) hyvää yötä
16:03 PiperFawn Gute Nacht elf!