Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2015-08-02

15:09 Carl Metropolitan Welcome to Q&A With the Deans
15:09 Carl Metropolitan Let's start today with Wordsmith as he appears to be the most close to consciousness among us.
15:10 Meora (menchor) Ha ha ha hahahaaa
15:10 Badass Fae (larkylouz)'s tongue is conscious and duly stuck out!
15:11 Lindal Kidd please excuse my tardiness!
15:11 Wordsmith Jarvinen Well, Elendreal Halasy is now up on the schedule for a hands-on version of basic scripting, starting this Monday.
15:11 Carl Metropolitan Half of us were late, Lindal
15:11 Carl Metropolitan Great!
15:11 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) demerits all around.
15:11 Wordsmith Jarvinen I've given him what I had and told him to run with it and his own knowledge.
15:12 Wordsmith Jarvinen So I think that's an exciting start.
15:13 Wordsmith Jarvinen I've gone through all the freebie avatar touches between late June and now. They average some 4000+ and about 58 touches per day.
15:13 Carl Metropolitan Wow
15:13 Lindal Kidd nice
15:13 Carl Metropolitan That's more than I though
15:14 Wordsmith Jarvinen I'll have charts by next time. I'm thinking we likely have enough data on those for the time being and can instrument other freebies, where possible.
15:14 Carl Metropolitan Very good news
15:14 Lindal Kidd if there is a script, I could put it in the freebie box of mine in the Appearance hall
15:16 Carl Metropolitan Speaking of freebies I had an idea on approaching some full perm mesh creators with the proposal of buying items we could texture and release as a no-transfer freebie so as to upgrade our freebie sets. I know most don't allow derivative works based on their objects to be given away, but we might be able to work out some sort of marketing deal or pay extra.
15:16 Carl Metropolitan Do we have anyone on Oxbridge staff (or who just likes to hang around) who knows any of them?
15:17 Carl Metropolitan Okay, either I've crashed or the answer is "no"
15:17 Aylaria (emberell) No, most likely
15:17 Lindal Kidd shakes her head
15:17 Badass Fae (larkylouz) I don't know anyone, Carl
15:17 Carl Metropolitan Phyrnne, Larky, what do you all think of the idea though?
15:17 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Hmm might know someone
15:17 Phrynne I think the idea is good -- but it might help to ask for names on ISC chat.
15:17 Phrynne as well as COU chat
15:17 Carl Metropolitan Okay.
15:18 Carl Metropolitan Good ideas.
15:18 Heli (helvitia) Perhaps ask people who run stores with nice group gifts to provide group joiner / freebie giver vendors?
15:18 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) what kind of items did you have im mind carl?
15:18 Carl Metropolitan Victorian steampunk looking stuff
15:18 Carl Metropolitan Like we have in the free avatars now, but more up-to-date.
15:18 Carl Metropolitan This is just an idea I had.
15:19 Phrynne A lot of the freebies we have date back to the founding of Oxbridge -- especially those in the railroad station.
15:19 Carl Metropolitan Let me move on to Lindal, since I'm starting with that end of the stage today.
15:19 Lindal Kidd eep!
15:19 Lindal Kidd OK, two items
15:19 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) I do not have notecard for those stores that took part of SteanHunts the last time but they might be possible places to ask.
15:19 Lindal Kidd today, a staff member who shall remain nameless accidentally deleted the main walkway past the lecture hall
15:20 Lindal Kidd I managed to replace it! Yay!
15:20 Carl Metropolitan Oh good.
15:20 Lindal Kidd but there may have been other things deleted as well. Word has the word.
15:20 Wordsmith Jarvinen I'm not sure. Carl had a prim in the middle of the walkway that seems to be there again.
15:21 Wordsmith Jarvinen I don't know if there was something in the hole that appeared or just the pavement covering it.
15:21 Aylaria (emberell) There wasn't anything in the hole. IT was just covered, from what I know
15:22 Carl Metropolitan The hole is to allow for the koi pond
15:22 Wordsmith Jarvinen I will say (again), that unless something is immediately causing a problem, it's sufficient to let autoreturn take care of it.
15:22 Carl Metropolitan As the teraforming tools are very crude
15:22 Lindal Kidd second, I would like to discuss our policy toward trolls like the pair that harrassed me and Carl last week
15:22 Lindal Kidd they did not, quite, break any of our posted rules of behavior
15:22 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) NOdds and carl last week
15:23 Lindal Kidd and we let them remain, at least until I had to depart
15:23 Lindal Kidd but they were clearly there to harass and bedevil everyone
15:23 Wordsmith Jarvinen Well, we do require respect of staff.
15:23 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Harassing a staff member is good reason to eject them.
15:23 Lindal Kidd pushing as close as possible to the line
15:23 Badass Fae (larkylouz) For that matter, harassing anyone - not just staff.
15:23 Phrynne Harassment is against the TOS, and reason enough to deal with them.
15:23 Carl Metropolitan I think they will eventually get bored and leave
15:23 Lindal Kidd I propose that when people like that show up, we eject promptly, even if they haven't specifically broken a rule
15:24 Carl Metropolitan We had one appear last night and then immediately vanish
15:24 Lindal Kidd they took up about an hour and a half of my time, and Carl's, at least.
15:24 Wordsmith Jarvinen I did come up with some language -- liberally copied from the FAA spiel one hears on any airline.
15:24 Wordsmith Jarvinen Caledon Oxbridge Land Authority (COLA) regulations require visitors to obey the instructions of signs and notecards and the instructions of staff-members regarding these signs and placards. Visitors refusing to comply will be denied access.
15:25 Lindal Kidd :)
15:25 Heli (helvitia) Isn't a bigger harm if they harass newbies? COU should be a safe and welcoming place.
15:25 Aylaria (emberell) I like that, Word. That'll help for those kinds of turkeys.
15:25 Wordsmith Jarvinen hmm. Should be "on signs and notecards"
15:25 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Harassment is against the TOS. Word, Phrynne and I were just discussing adding that wording to the Behavior Card.
15:25 Meora (menchor) make that a chat gesture
15:26 Carl Metropolitan We could just tell them they suck at being trolls and are being ejected for failing to provide any entertainment value.
15:26 Lindal Kidd LOL!
15:26 Lindal Kidd I like that one
15:26 Meora (menchor) lol
15:26 Phrynne do we really want them to get more creative?
15:26 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Nodds, something should bbe done
15:26 Badass Fae (larkylouz) With all due respect, I'm going to suggest that it is a bad example to allow someone to harass you for an hour and a half.
15:26 Meora (menchor) if they get more creative they will give you grounds for ejecting them
15:26 Heli (helvitia) Have a meta-troll, say a giant monster who will eat them and then eject them?
15:27 Wordsmith Jarvinen It's a bad use of staff time and effort.
15:27 Lindal Kidd well, my point is, Meora, that we did wait too long, waiting for them to "give us grounds"
15:27 Phrynne You don't have to take bad behavior from anyone.
15:27 Lexi Skytower (alexis1327) shivers at the thought of meta-trolls ever coming in to sl
15:27 Lindal Kidd afterwards I realized that we didn't really NEED specific offenses.
15:27 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Harassment is grounds for ejection, at least, banning if repeated.
15:28 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Yes, Lindal!
15:28 Carl Metropolitan we could eject them for being mentally underage :)
15:28 Lindal Kidd "any land owner can eject or ban anyone they like at any time for any reason." That's LL's general policy. We were too lenient.
15:28 Aylaria (emberell) Well, we'd get so few students if we followed that one, CArl
15:28 Badass Fae (larkylouz) I like the entertainment line better, Carl. :^)
15:29 Wordsmith Jarvinen Oxbridge is private property. While its purpose is to be publicly accessible, LL gives absolute right to deny entry.
15:29 Gronk Seriman It's one of those frog in the boiling water things. You are trying to be polite and prober, but the jerk just took a lot of your time and energy. You only realize it all too late in time.
15:29 Lindal Kidd exactly, Gronk!
15:30 Badass Fae (larkylouz) isn't familiar with that expression and thinks she doesn't want to be!
15:30 Carl Metropolitan Oxbridge staff should just use their best judgment and eject/ban if needed
15:31 Wordsmith Jarvinen Frog is comfortable in the warming water. By the time the frog realizes its in trouble, it's also too late.
15:31 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Somewhat apocryphal tale but illustrates a point
15:31 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Thank you, Word. I think.
15:32 Gronk Seriman Summed it up nicely, Word.
15:32 Lindal Kidd anyway, that's all from this frog
15:32 Mel (melotte25) Ribbit
15:33 theandrewjames Should some care be taken in case the person behind the avatar is mentally impaired?
15:33 Heli (helvitia) A rabbit who says ribbit? Strange indeed! :-)
15:34 Carl Metropolitan I think I forgot to ask Phrynne and Larky for report from Commons.
15:34 Phrynne I have one item.
15:34 Badass Fae (larkylouz) I certainly believe a fair explanation is in order. I have been known to explain with the sharks as my witnesses, however, in extreme cases.
15:34 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Yes,
15:34 Phrynne If anyone asks you about fishing for the fish in our little pond, please tell them that the fish are students.
15:34 Phrynne They are working on a course in water ballet.
15:35 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) We have no way of knowing whether somebody is stupid intentionally or due to mental capacity.
15:35 Phrynne At this point they are practicing their synchronized swimming.
15:35 Phrynne and are not available for sushi.
15:35 Phrynne or fish fries.
15:35 Badass Fae (larkylouz) This story gets better every time I hear it!
15:35 Aylaria (emberell) What should our answer be when we get an actual fishy student asking about the dance classes? Should we direct them to one of the koi?
15:35 Carl Metropolitan Fish fries. That sounds good.
15:35 Lexi Skytower (alexis1327) puts her fishing gear away and playfully pouts
15:35 Phrynne The classes are private.
15:36 Aylaria (emberell) Of course.
15:36 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Give them fake taggs and the (the fish) will look the part
15:36 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) *they
15:36 Lindal Kidd I suppose if we WANT to allow fishing, I could add a 7 Seas fish server to the pond
15:36 Phrynne Besides, they are residential students - they spend all their time practising.
15:37 Carl Metropolitan Okay. I guess the deans have all had their says.
15:37 Carl Metropolitan Taking questions
15:37 Phrynne We have plenty of water around the outside of the land, so that a 7 Seas server could go there, but not inthe plaza.
15:37 Lindal Kidd you can fish in a bucket, if one of those is in range
15:37 Xarin Skytower Do you want people camping in the plaza fishing though and takiing up the homestead space?
15:37 Carl Metropolitan Even silly ones. Which we are likely to get this afternoon if the previous thirty minutes is any guide.
15:38 Lindal Kidd no, I don't recommend it. Just noted it was possible
15:38 Badass Fae (larkylouz) I would like to add a brief report.
15:39 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Jagged Edges aka Brian aka Mannadrop is formally in training to become an Oxbridge Tutor.
15:39 Lindal Kidd excellent!
15:39 Gronk Seriman Woohoo!
15:39 Carl Metropolitan Hmm... Looks like we may need to look into improved tinies and robots :(
15:39 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Also, I am on leave for a few weeks, and will limit the time I spend in the plaza.
15:40 Phrynne Please send Commons matters to me in the interim.
15:40 Phrynne when Larky is not available.
15:42 Wordsmith Jarvinen And I can be pinged for EM needs and library cleanup.
15:42 Carl Metropolitan As can I, too
15:42 Carl Metropolitan Okay. Questions?
15:42 Gronk Seriman I seem to remember talk about removing the 30-day restriction on the free items in the Tutorial. Has that or will that happen?
15:43 Badass Fae (larkylouz) That's already done, Gronk. They're open to all now.
15:43 Gronk Seriman Great! I was sooo mad when I found Oxbridge long after my newness had expired.
15:43 Carl Metropolitan I just had to get the Okay from the person who originally requested it for their itmes
15:44 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) The aos from ms kamilah are still restricted.
15:44 Lindal Kidd that's good news. There have been times I wanted to get one while I was helping a new person with theirs
15:45 Wordsmith Jarvinen Apart from being avatars they are also classic "parts": shapes, items of clothing, ...
15:45 Carl Metropolitan I will contact her and see if those are still ones she sells.
15:46 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Nods, ty
15:46 Wordsmith Jarvinen And there, a couple of charts behind us for the free avatar touch statistics.
15:48 Carl Metropolitan Interesting distribution of Avatar counts.
15:48 Lindal Kidd looks like a big spike when Californians finish dinner and come on line
15:48 Carl Metropolitan I wonder how it overlaps with evening time in North America, and Europe
15:49 Carl Metropolitan Okay, questions? Comments?
15:49 Wordsmith Jarvinen Europe would be at the 14 spike.
15:49 Aylaria (emberell) That might explain the rise in the middle. I'm surprised the tiny avatars rank so low for touches - does that include accidental/repeat touches, Word?
15:50 BOBO Bearskin (bobo112) hiii all :D
15:50 Wordsmith Jarvinen It includes repeat touches that occur on separate touch_start events.
15:50 Aylaria (emberell) Okay, I see.
15:50 Xarin Skytower wants to go touch the brasswoman avatar 800 times now...
15:51 Wordsmith Jarvinen So a very rapid touch vibration will only give one copy and be counted once.
15:51 Phrynne I haven't seen a lot of new people with Tinies; there are a few but it seems to be something that most go into later.
15:52 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) It is a totaly different world.
15:52 Meora (menchor) I wonder how many of the tinys are alts of more experienced avatars?
15:52 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) to get involved in
15:52 Gronk Seriman I don't think Tinies are offered bu SL when starting. There are a few in the Inventory Library, though.
15:52 Carl Metropolitan Many of them I think, Meora
15:53 Wordsmith Jarvinen I've got data for individual avatars per hour, just have to figure out a graphic for it.
15:55 Carl Metropolitan Any last questions?
15:56 Gronk Seriman People have a huge reaource they don't know about, their Inventory Library. Do we have anything anywhere that mentions it?
15:56 Carl Metropolitan Yes. In the Hall of Finding.
15:56 Gronk Seriman Ah! I will look there again.
15:57 Aylaria (emberell) The orientation guides them to look in there, but I'm not sure it explains very well that they have a lot of variety in there. I'm not sure there's a better way to get them to explore those folders, though
15:57 Badass Fae (larkylouz) I try to tell lpeople about it all the time, but it can be rough going. I use the library extensively in that article I wrote about dealing with mesh avatars.
15:58 Gronk Seriman Maybe a class idea.
15:58 Lindal Kidd sounds tailor made for Josain to add a mention in his inventory classes
15:58 Aylaria (emberell) Josain, is that covered in the inventory tour?
15:59 Carl Metropolitan Josain may be afk.
16:00 Aylaria (emberell) Possibly
16:00 Carl Metropolitan I need to go bug people about patron donations tonight! It's that time of the month.
16:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen kk
16:00 Gronk Seriman Have fun!
16:00 Badass Fae (larkylouz) oh my. We're out of time!
16:00 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Good luck
16:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen I did notice that you'd paid tier for another quarter.
16:01 Carl Metropolitan Yes. We are doing well for tier, but I have a few people to collect from :)
16:01 Carl Metropolitan Thank you all for coming today.
16:01 Aylaria (emberell) Thanks for taking the time to keep us informed, and to answer our questions!
16:01 Carl Metropolitan I'm sorry the deans were kind of out of it :)
16:01 Gronk Seriman Thank you, everybody!
16:02 Carl Metropolitan Everyone can go home now !
16:02 Meora (menchor) thank you deans
16:02 Wordsmith Jarvinen Apart from the water heating to a boil -- we'd as soon stay out of that.
16:02 Oxbridge Donation Coin R1 (Alternate Lecture Hall) Badass Fae (larkylouz) gave a generous donation to help support classes and tutorials at Caledon Oxbridge Gateway.
16:02 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Well, I am going to bed noew
16:02 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) night elf
16:02 Phrynne good night, Mr Elfbiter
16:02 Badass Fae (larkylouz) Goodnight, Mr. Elfbiter. Thanks for all your help.
16:02 Aylaria (emberell) See you around, Eb
16:02 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Be seeing you
16:02 Carl Metropolitan Thank you Larky
16:02 Carl Metropolitan Larky is one of our ten Patrons.
16:02 Badass Fae (larkylouz) thanks for the reminder!