Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2015-05-24

15:03	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Well, despite some significant dean depletion, I'll call a formal start.
15:04	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Lindal won't make it. She IM'ed me earlier that her progress in minor changes to classes and the faculty kit. Not enough on the later to issue a revision.
15:05	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	I have a few things pending on the faculty kit.
15:05	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Counts, in the sense of touches to the free avatars at Oxbridge.
15:05	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Which provides the avatars and their outfits to the touchers.
15:05	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	Ah. So no relation to dukes or duchesses or princessas etc.
15:05	Meora (menchor)	I remember coming through as a newbie and grabbing most of them
15:06	Wordsmith Jarvinen	No, not royalty classification.
15:06	Josain Zsun	I still have a couple I got then as well
15:06	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	How about vice counts? :-)
15:07	Wordsmith Jarvinen	We ask them to go elsewhere. ;)
15:07	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Larky, you want to talk about commons? (not as opposed to nobility).
15:08	Gronk Seriman	"Von avatar. Two avatars. Three! Three Avatars. AhAhAhAAAh!"
15:09	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	LOL. I have spent most of the past week continuing to research names on the ban lists. Progress is slow but significant, and we'll have a good tool when I'm finished. Phrynne and I also have several projects on hold until she is able to work again.
15:09		Gronk Seriman is sorry for the Sesame Street reference.
15:10	Wordsmith Jarvinen	It was a more appropriate reference than you might believe, Miss Gronk.
15:11	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	I was contacted last week by Barbara Collazo, who is active in Genealogy in SL. She is helping to organize an event on June 6th that will be both SL and RL. She wishes to list Oxbridge as the 'place to learn' how to use SL for this event. I have a notecard from her if anyone is interested. I expect we may schedule folks to cover the plaza for that day and perhaps a day or two previous.
15:11	lovejoy2199	Sounds interesting
15:11	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	yes, it does.
15:12		Meora (menchor) suspects SL genealogy would be complicated
15:12	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Thinking of that, depending on how many, it might be and idea to have to TP to the Village chat circle and the move them through.
15:12	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	LOL. I think this is RL genealogy using SL as a community-building tool
15:13	Meora (menchor)	Ha ha ha hahahaaa
15:13	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	Barbara was unable to give me any information on numbers.
15:13	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	Just brainstorming as I sit here, perhaps we may use some mentors or mentor-style guiding for this.
15:14	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	On a trial-run basis.
15:14	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Thinks: Dragon, daughter of prairie dog son of cat girl.
15:14		BadAss Fae (larkylouz) grins
15:14	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	Too bad a certain green dragon isn't here to weigh in.
15:15	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Tis.
15:15	Josain Zsun	There have been several Genetic Engineering sims in SL. I recall a guided walk through tour of DNA. a couple of years ago.
15:15	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Jorge created a walkway to the lecture hall last night, subject to your approval of textures etc.
15:16	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	It doesn't quite match the walkway in textures, but I very much like the idea.
15:16	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Something to coordinate with him then.
15:16	Gronk Seriman	Ysy! Now my shoes won't get muddy!
15:17	Josain Zsun	Didn't there used to be a walk from the carriage way to the Library?
15:17		BadAss Fae (larkylouz) considers her bare feet and decides she rather likes grass.
15:18		Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) is concerned about still-missing equines
15:18	Wordsmith Jarvinen	There's a turnaround
15:18	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	I know a few trolls I'd like to get turned around.
15:19	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Equines are up to Des to replace. He supposedly has them. I'm not sure whether they are scripted for the particular path or not. At the moment, he's very short of time.
15:20	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Questions or comments specific to commons?
15:21	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	I have a question, but I'm unsure the meaning of the term 'commons' as applied here.
15:21	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	I will say again, and mean it well, that I am so greatful for the plaza staff that show up on a very regular basis and help newcomers and old, alike.
15:21	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	Commons = grounds.
15:22	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	But any questions are welcome.
15:22	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	Oh, okies. My question has to do with classes so I'll wait. ^-^
15:22	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Commons basically means policies for use, helpers onsite, decor, ...
15:22	Wordsmith Jarvinen	I'll cover a few items then and open that up.
15:22		Lynette Zisara (zisara) nodnods.
15:22	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	brb
15:23	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Since it crosses three deanships, I'll mention more specifically the graphs behind us.
15:24	Wordsmith Jarvinen	The commons connection comes in knowing what freebies we have available and to what extent they are accessed. Looking at those getting the free avatars is a first step in that direction.
15:25	Wordsmith Jarvinen	But, having a system to log and accumulate touches in a giver prim, the rest follows.
15:26	Gronk Seriman	Does the graph include the freebies in and near the train station?
15:26	Wordsmith Jarvinen	The data on the graphs represents 226 touches captured from Tuesday through late last night.
15:26	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Not yet. Just the avatars.
15:26	Gronk Seriman	Ah. OK.
15:27	Wordsmith Jarvinen	So, as with statistics on class use and adboard touches, we're trying to understand how and whom (in terms of SL age) are accessing our resources.
15:27	Josain Zsun	Which AV is most popular approaching midnight?
15:28	Wordsmith Jarvinen	I haven't run that specifically, but could set up a pivot table for that.
15:29	Wordsmith Jarvinen	For those on staff or helping consistently at the quad, I'll be distributing a new version of the translator.
15:29	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	Hey Carl
15:30	Carl Metropolitan	Hi.
15:30	Carl Metropolitan	I'm sorry I am late today
15:30	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Nothing new for you to learn --- some corrections to the thoroughness with which I handle HTTP query IDs.
15:30	lovejoy2199	Hello Chancellor
15:30	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	That might be useful for new avis coming through with limited or no english too. Or for those wanting to explore non-english speaking regions?
15:31	Josain Zsun	Dean Jarvinen has been working hard behind the curtain to keep Oxbridge running smoothly.
15:31	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Yes, staff scoping out foreign language help places is included in that.
15:31	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	(Referring to the translator, I mean)
15:32	Gronk Seriman	ARe we still running safely within the Translator's limits?
15:32	Wordsmith Jarvinen	On the class schedule, we've got Cymbal's class on Flexi-skirt making up and running..
15:33	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Well, within them I believe. Can check that in a few minutes.
15:35	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Josain is doing an "off the schedule" 8am Sunday class on Inventory management. I'm working on extending our scheduling capability to include an 8am teaching block. That's going to cause a slight change in the aspect ratio of the schedule, but Larky has helped me collect a list of kiosk owners so that we can notify them.
15:35	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	Oh! That answers my question actually. ^-^
15:35	Wordsmith Jarvinen	However, I did get a count and rez dates of those attending Josain's class this morning, so I can add it to our stipend payroll.
15:36	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	I missed the class because I didn't see it on the schedule, heard about it after.
15:36	Meora (menchor)	good idea inventory bewfore smart shopper
15:37	Carl Metropolitan	Does it look like an 8am time band will be something we may want to have other classes in?
15:37	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Our schedule isn't just what you see, but the web interface to enter the data, and the functions like class tracking that are driven directly from the scheduling data, including statistics and "payroll".
15:37	Josain Zsun	Inventory Tour Sat, 8AM SLT & Invnetory Management Sun. 8AM SLT
15:38	Wordsmith Jarvinen	I'm hoping. It should be a good before work time on the East coast, and a late afternoon time in Europe.
15:38	Carl Metropolitan	Good times for people in Europe has been long requested.
15:38	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Josain, if possible, send me a count and names of those attending on Sat. (so I can get rez dates)
15:39	Josain Zsun	Will do
15:41	Wordsmith Jarvinen	The schedule, as in data, directly creates the image used inworld AND an image on the website that also is mapped to course descriptions, as well as the catalog online and the notecard available inworld. It's all tied to the same data so that it doesn't have to be done manually.
15:41	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	Wow. o.o
15:42	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	I never realized there was that much information being handled. '
15:42	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Tali Rosca is still doing a new web interface for the data, btw, even after stepping down as dean of engines.
15:42	Carl Metropolitan	Tali has done amazing stuff for us.
15:44	Wordsmith Jarvinen	And, I've still got more potential teacher that I need to talk with.
15:45	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Larky and I have done our spiels, Lindal can't be here and only has minor updates to classes and info, want to take it from there Carl?
15:46	Carl Metropolitan	I don't really have anything to say. I may but I am kind of out of it today.
15:46	Jayleden Miles	Feel better soon, Carl.
15:46	Carl Metropolitan	Does anyone have any questions for us tonight?
15:47	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	Mine was answered already. ^-^ Thank you.
15:48	Josain Zsun	The Abyss is going away. Yan Lauria built The Abyss several years ago for oceanographic studies and marine education. It has contained many interactive activites. Japanese perception of SL and forced funding to the extent he has reduced from a sim to being hosted on others. Yan is offering one last tour next Saturday. I can share the notecard with anyone interested.
15:48	Josain Zsun	That should have said reduced funding.
15:48	Carl Metropolitan	I would like to see one.
15:48	Carl Metropolitan	What is the japanese perception of SL?
15:49	Jayleden Miles	I would like a notecard as well, Josain.
15:49	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	I saw that. They are moving minor portions elsewhere.
15:49	Josain Zsun	Negative due to the media playing up the X-rated side.
15:50	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	As in the West...
15:50	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	Which is really odd coming from a country that sells used girls panties in vending machines. o.o
15:50	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	They no longr do that.
15:50	Jayleden Miles	Thank you, Josain.
15:50	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	Oh. Good. They shouldn't have done it in the first place.
15:50	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	Authorities begun to require licenses for those machines- and did not give any to anyone...
15:51	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Miss Gronk, 1,971,732 Characters between now and 13 June.
15:51	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	As for Western media, they are playing the hentai card all too much anyway...
15:52	Gronk Seriman	Isn't that over the limit?
15:52	Wordsmith Jarvinen	That's what's remaining of the 2 million. We've used about 30,000.
15:52	Gronk Seriman	Oh, JUNE! OK.
15:52	Carl Metropolitan	In the US people buy used panties anonymously over the internet :)
15:53	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	As in all the world...
15:53	Josain Zsun	Darn! I've been throwing mine away all these years.
15:53	Jayleden Miles	You'd've made a fortune.
15:54	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Other questions?
15:56	Gronk Seriman	Has there ever been a recent thought of setting up a library for class materials for people who can't attend classes can still benefit?
15:57		Lynette Zisara (zisara) +1's this suggestion.
15:57	Josain Zsun	Mine will be on eBay with my underwear.
15:57	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	o.o
15:57	Gronk Seriman	Our last Chancellor wasn't very keen on the idea, but I though I'd bring it up again.
15:58	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Not yet.
15:58	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	Were they worried about the materials being used at another school?
15:58	Carl Metropolitan	The problem is getting permission from all the people that created the materials
15:58	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	Make them no-mod, no transfer when they go to the library maybe?
15:58	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	Oh.
15:58	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Some things were developed by Carl, others by individuals.
15:59	Carl Metropolitan	I only developed a few classes we are using now.
15:59	Gronk Seriman	Two bvery good objections. One, she would rather have the people attend and get the materials properly. Two, more work for the professor.
15:59	Wordsmith Jarvinen	And not necessarily in the same format.
15:59	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Or a librarian.
15:59	Carl Metropolitan	I have no objection to the idea, in principle, but the materials are not ours to give away in most cases.
16:00	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	My basic photography class had at least 3 teachers before me. I may well be using materials from all of them. I was given the class and developed it to be my own. The materials go back a ways.
16:00	Gronk Seriman	It's just a Big Thought to think about.
16:00	Wordsmith Jarvinen	We accept volunteers.
16:00	Carl Metropolitan	Some classes are also more free form and don't have a set script or slides, too.
16:01	Gronk Seriman	I think it would be entirely up to the Professor if they would want to do it.
16:01	Josain Zsun	Happy Hippo has long offered Self Service classes. That concept might be of use here.
16:02	Meora (menchor)	some classes are easier than others to read the materials and understand
16:02	Gronk Seriman	I do keep forgetting about the self-paced classes up in the Sandbox building.
16:02	Carl Metropolitan	We do have a number of tutorials up by the sandbox that are not really used often.
16:02	Carl Metropolitan	So I'm not sure if there is a huge demand.
16:03	Josain Zsun	Maybe if they were moved along some of the college halls relevant to tutorials there?
16:04	Wordsmith Jarvinen	The other aspect is that many times the materials used in class weren't designed to be stand-alone but depend a lot on additional discussion.
16:04	Jayleden Miles	I believe they are up by the sandbox to encourage folks to use the sandbox to build - rather than the halls.
16:04	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Which often depends on the starting point of those in the class.
16:04	Josain Zsun	I will have to revisit that part of the sandbox. I hadn't noticed those tutorials.
16:05	Wordsmith Jarvinen	There are also those up at the Atelier platform.
16:05	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	Is there a sigh in the walk-through tutorial that takes residents up to the sandbox area?
16:06	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	I do give a copy of my class materials, which always include slides and lecture, to anyone who takes the time to ask.
16:06	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	That is a good suggestion, Lynette!
16:06	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	^-^
16:07	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	I was just thinking that instead of rezzing prims when the walk-through talks about it, they could click on a sign to go up to the sandbox for more information.
16:07	Lynette Zisara (zisara)	And rez up there.
16:07	Jayleden Miles	Another reason to be careful on handing out materials is --sometimes folks who are fine with it for a while change their minds and do not want their work handed out, which has happened, and makes it difficult to know when they have changed their minds.
16:08	Carl Metropolitan	That could be dealt with by asking for people to release such materials under a Creative Commons 2.0 license, but that also looks scary to some people.
16:08	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Well, after 4pm.
16:09	Gronk Seriman	The more I think about it now, the less helpful my suggestion seems. Teaching materials should be made to the form, place and venue they are given
16:10	Jayleden Miles	It's a good idea Gronk, just people become the issue with having to give up control of their material.
16:10	Gronk Seriman	Thanks, everybody, for setting me straight.
16:10	Wordsmith Jarvinen	And, some things may be written to stand on their own. (Guardian articles)
16:11	BadAss Fae (larkylouz)	I'd be inclined to expand the Guardian articles, if we can find time and people to do so. But they need to be updated periodically.
16:11	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Thank you all for coming. You've yet again saved us from telling bad puns to each other.
16:12	Gronk Seriman	Thank you, Deans!
16:12	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	Bedtime for me.
16:12	Oxbridge Donation Coin R1 (Alternate Lecture Hall)	Gronk Seriman gave a generous donation to help support classes and tutorials at Caledon Oxbridge Gateway.
16:12	Jayleden Miles	Night those going to bed, have a good eve to those not.
16:12	Carl Metropolitan	Goodnight