| 14:58 |
Gronk Seriman |
Meora, have you tried the CAT airships lately? They should make it through SSC now. |
| 14:59 |
Meora (menchor) |
Jorge mentioned it was the sim but I haven't tried it since last week |
| 15:00 |
Meora (menchor) |
the reset this week should have fixed it |
| 15:00 |
Tali Rosca |
Greetings and felinecitations. Welcome to this week's QA with the Deans where, unsurprisingly, the deans will answer questions. |
| 15:00 |
Gronk Seriman |
I tried it, and suffered dire consequences. I complained in Caledon chat. Wrath Constantine showed up and fixed the problem, it seems. |
| 15:01 |
Tali Rosca |
We each have an area of expertise, as listed here: http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna_index.php, but we also each keep up to date with the going-ons, and feel duty-bound to have an opinion! |
| 15:01 |
Tali Rosca |
So with that, who has a question? |
| 15:02 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
How is the remodeling of the lecture hall going? Any word ? |
| 15:03 |
Larkylouz |
And with that, the larger meeting space? I started too late and couldn't get into Oxbridge this afternoon. |
| 15:03 |
Tali Rosca |
*Crickets* I have not caught Rav since I got back myself. (I have been away from SL for a couple of weeks). |
| 15:04 |
Martini Discovolante |
i saw him briefly. but we ahve all been very busy. |
| 15:04 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Ravelli hasn't sent anything around to the collective deans that it's ready. |
| 15:04 |
Carl Metropolitan |
There will be no larger meeting space. This is a homestead sim and has a hard limit of 20 avatars. |
| 15:05 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
We all know how perfectionist Rav is. |
| 15:05 |
Martini Discovolante |
and it if functions poorly it will not be much of an improvement |
| 15:05 |
Call me MegaLark (larkylouz) |
I thought there had been discussion of a larger space, perhaps in the Village? |
| 15:06 |
Carl Metropolitan |
That is an option, but we must be careful how we use the village, as it is mostly rented to paying customers of the village. |
| 15:06 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
There has been. That there might be an alternative lecture hall there. |
| 15:06 |
Martini Discovolante |
we have more capacity there, as it is a full region. |
| 15:06 |
Call me MegaLark (larkylouz) |
I understand. Is the topic still on the table, or has it been shelved? |
| 15:07 |
Martini Discovolante |
we are guests in the village, as carl says. |
| 15:07 |
Tali Rosca |
At best, we could perhaps use the village as a spillover area and set up some chat repeaters. |
| 15:07 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
I recall that one group used two sims simultaneously for large groups at a sim border. Is that a possibility? |
| 15:07 |
Martini Discovolante |
and we already have the sandbox on Commonwealth land there. |
| 15:07 |
Atom Kitty (atomkitty) |
Hello Marzypan |
| 15:08 |
Tali Rosca |
For really big events, you can set it at a corner of a sim, to be visible from four different sims. |
| 15:08 |
Marzipan (marzipanmacbeth) |
Can you do what the lindons do sometimes and make a meeting space on the boundry of two or more sims? |
| 15:08 |
Carl Metropolitan |
It is possible, but we never have crowds that large. |
| 15:08 |
Marzipan (marzipanmacbeth) |
sorry, too late |
| 15:08 |
Call me MegaLark (larkylouz) |
Is it possible to set up a temporary meeting space in the sandbox for an hour or two a week? |
| 15:08 |
Martini Discovolante |
i would rather not. |
| 15:08 |
Tali Rosca |
But it's not so much a matter of how we can technically use the area as what we're actually paying rent for. |
| 15:09 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
It seems that this is the only meeting that draws a sim filling crowd. |
| 15:09 |
Call me MegaLark (larkylouz) |
the photo salon sometimes does |
| 15:09 |
Tali Rosca |
We have a couple others which get close. |
| 15:09 |
Gronk Seriman |
Ao pretty much any incursion into Caledon Proper is just that. An incursion. |
| 15:09 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
There are Lindal crowds.. |
| 15:09 |
Marzipan (marzipanmacbeth) |
Took me nearly ten minutes to get in. |
| 15:10 |
Lyn Navarita |
I'm not familiar with how Linden Lab rent their sims. Is it possible to upgrade to the next larger size? Or is that too expensive? |
| 15:10 |
Phrynne |
If it is that difficult to get in, people get the message: don't try. |
| 15:10 |
Patrick (patrlck) |
have you considered or is it possible to use the sim of another (where invited to do so) for events that have a history of larger groups? |
| 15:10 |
Carl Metropolitan |
It is too expensive |
| 15:10 |
Carl Metropolitan |
A homestead sim (like this) rents for 125USD a month |
| 15:11 |
Carl Metropolitan |
A full sim (like most of the non-duchies in Caledon) is 295USD per month. |
| 15:11 |
Carl Metropolitan |
There are sims here that are grandfathered in at older lower prices. |
| 15:11 |
Martini Discovolante |
we prefer to keep our classes and activities on site. |
| 15:11 |
Tali Rosca |
We could perhaps make an "itinerant classroom" and rez it on demand as spill-over areas in private sims. But it wold be rather confusing to even find. |
| 15:12 |
Martini Discovolante |
adn consistency in place and schedule is important in a highly changeable world liek ours. |
| 15:12 |
Tali Rosca |
Though personally, I kinda like the idea of a lecture hall on chicken feet. |
| 15:13 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Baba Yaga's Classroom |
| 15:13 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Ayep. |
| 15:13 |
Tali Rosca |
I don't think we would have all that much difficulty finding people who'd donate the land, really. But I worry more about the logistics and consistency. |
| 15:13 |
ShaRa Ishtar (shannonraven) |
Do we have statistics on how many people are actually attending classes? |
| 15:14 |
Call me MegaLark (larkylouz) |
Most of the people who come to the Q&A seem to me able to follow the directions on a sign or notification. I will not belabor the point further, however. |
| 15:14 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
There's also the difference that this sim is rated General. Most in Caledon are Moderate. |
| 15:14 |
Martini Discovolante |
and permissions. which are group set and important to runnign a class. |
| 15:15 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
We do have some statistics. |
| 15:15 |
Tali Rosca |
But those who are here do not have the problem :-) But yes, we could post the "M-rated spill-over area" with each announcement, and hope people distribute evenly. |
| 15:16 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
Even a chat repeater to the Village circle might help for large meetings. |
| 15:16 |
ShaRa Ishtar (shannonraven) |
So which classes could have MORE than 20 participants? |
| 15:16 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
If it was a talk only. |
| 15:16 |
Carl Metropolitan |
None that I can think of. |
| 15:16 |
Meora (menchor) |
also newbies can't tp in when the sim is full |
| 15:16 |
Martini Discovolante |
we do have hte land in the chat circle in the village. which is there for the purposeof lkeepign people from parking here. |
| 15:17 |
Martini Discovolante |
and that has not sunk in. |
| 15:17 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
The one that run high are this, Carl's trivial entertainment, and sometimes, Photo Salon |
| 15:17 |
Call me MegaLark (larkylouz) |
I confess I usually talk to anyone who appears to be loitering before this meeting, generally, and assk them to move to the chat circle. |
| 15:17 |
Tali Rosca |
Frankly, I would feel better annexing any random, empty mainland sim with Governor Linden plots than hijacking a Caledonian sim with renters. |
| 15:18 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
Speaking of that Dean Discovolante, might we post a warning about limiting parking? too many people go afk and leave their avatars in an away state |
| 15:18 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I rarely get more than 12-14 people too |
| 15:18 |
Martini Discovolante |
tali has a device in place i believe. |
| 15:18 |
Meora (menchor) |
Photo salon also varies |
| 15:18 |
Tali Rosca |
We do have a "sweep" running, so if people have been idling for a while when we approach limit, they are moved from the sim. |
| 15:18 |
ShaRa Ishtar (shannonraven) |
so are we actually HAVING a problem, or are we just talking ourselves into a problem? |
| 15:18 |
Tali Rosca |
But it only works if they register as "Away" as seen from the script. |
| 15:19 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Otherwise we have to remind them to move, please. |
| 15:19 |
Martini Discovolante |
it is rare, and usually involvong thsi very event. |
| 15:19 |
Tali Rosca |
Largely, the QA has a problem. We do regularly reach the full 20. But during almost all other hours, no, it's not much of a problem. |
| 15:19 |
Carl Metropolitan |
We are not having a problem. |
| 15:19 |
Phrynne |
Isn't it a problem if people who want to be here cannot be? |
| 15:19 |
Martini Discovolante |
for an hour on Sunday? |
| 15:19 |
ShaRa Ishtar (shannonraven) |
so that solves it then --- |
| 15:20 |
Carl Metropolitan |
If it will help, I can log off and go to bed. |
| 15:20 |
ShaRa Ishtar (shannonraven) |
Warn Q&A folks to come early to get a place, and if not- so be it ... |
| 15:20 |
Marzipan (marzipanmacbeth) |
Seems like this is the thing people most want to get to -- and sometimes can't. Maybe they think this is the most important? |
| 15:20 |
Patrick (patrlck) |
seats are limited, first come basis |
| 15:21 |
Gronk Seriman |
Just so you know, I believe "away " status in LL viewer is 5 minutes. In Firestorm, it's infinite by default. |
| 15:21 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
We do post transcripts after the fact. http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna_index.php |
| 15:21 |
ShaRa Ishtar (shannonraven) |
You could publish the Q&A stuff talked to all folks interested ... |
| 15:21 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
One can adjust the "away" state in viewers. |
| 15:21 |
Martini Discovolante |
and too many weeks we sit here begging for questions to be asked other than ravelli's progress and teh CATs. |
| 15:21 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
:-) |
| 15:22 |
Gronk Seriman |
And the TOS. |
| 15:22 |
ShaRa Ishtar (shannonraven) |
Seriously, if we take 20 minutes in Q&A to debate Q&A accesss, it's not very interesting to most folks |
| 15:22 |
ShaRa Ishtar (shannonraven) |
;o) |
| 15:24 |
Martini Discovolante |
any other questions? |
| 15:24 |
Tali Rosca |
I think we can say that consensus amongst the deans is that, like it or not, we rent room for 20 people. Going above that would require jumping through hoops with inconsistent arrangements with private sim owners, and that is just not worth it for 1 or 2 hours per week. |
| 15:24 |
Meora (menchor) |
any changes in SL coming ? |
| 15:25 |
Tali Rosca |
If people would like to donate for a full sim, please do. |
| 15:25 |
Call me MegaLark (larkylouz) |
Okay. Thank you for the synopsis, Tali. |
| 15:25 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Yes. Do we know about them in advance? Very often not. |
| 15:25 |
ShaRa Ishtar (shannonraven) |
Tali's plan makes a lot of sense to me ... |
| 15:26 |
Tali Rosca |
The so-called "Weaponized Viewer" is fairly far along the release pipeline. |
| 15:26 |
Tali Rosca |
Dubbed so because it is very powerful. |
| 15:26 |
Patrick (patrlck) |
Do the proceeds of a sponsor on the advertisement boards go to paying for the homestead sim or in part, to all of Caledon? |
| 15:26 |
Tali Rosca |
LL is working on a massive rework of the texture download, and all reports so far indicate that it's *screaming* fast. |
| 15:27 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
The sponsors here go to maintaining Oxbridge and its classes. |
| 15:27 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
The payment is to Caledon's owner. Since oxbridge is part of the Estate. as I understand it |
| 15:27 |
Martini Discovolante |
they go only to Oxbridge. |
| 15:27 |
Tali Rosca |
Oxbridge is an independent organization; we are merely renters in Caledon, like anybody else. |
| 15:27 |
Carl Metropolitan |
We rent this land from Caledon (except for the library land) at a breakeven rate for Desmond. |
| 15:27 |
Martini Discovolante |
we are distinct and separate rfom Caledon, tho part of the nation. |
| 15:28 |
Carl Metropolitan |
He is not in charge of Oxbridge, but he is our landlord, and co-founder of the Oxbridge. |
| 15:28 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Martini is in charge of Oxbridge. |
| 15:28 |
Tali Rosca |
So yes, ultimately, it goes to Desmond Shang, who then pays Linden Lab. |
| 15:28 |
Martini Discovolante |
and Carl is my mentor |
| 15:28 |
Martini Discovolante |
:) |
| 15:29 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
It should be noted that Des is a significant supporter of Oxbridge. He is a most generous landlord |
| 15:29 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
There is an indirect effect that the presence of Oxbridge contributes to the atmosphere of Caledon. |
| 15:29 |
Tali Rosca |
And as Carl mentioned, as part of Caledon's image, Demond supports Oxbridge by renting essentially at cost, and also donating land for the sandbox. |
| 15:30 |
Martini Discovolante |
but the sandbox is available and use d by all the citizens of Caledon, a nice resource. |
| 15:30 |
Patrick (patrlck) |
Caledon has full region for sale that require $295 a month? |
| 15:30 |
Tali Rosca |
So strictly speaking, it's really Caledon subsidizing a part of Oxbridge, by generous terms and donated land. |
| 15:30 |
Carl Metropolitan |
No, you would end up paying more than 295, if you wanted a full region. Desmond would have to make a profit on top of the 295/month LL charges him |
| 15:31 |
Carl Metropolitan |
If you want a full region, you are better off paying the 295USD a month to Linden Lab. |
| 15:31 |
Patrick (patrlck) |
so in essence, it would run $350 or around that? |
| 15:31 |
Martini Discovolante |
ir looking to the Used Region Dealer |
| 15:31 |
Tali Rosca |
Oxbridge has *very* generous terms, since we're renting a grand-fathered homestead at cost. |
| 15:31 |
Lyn Navarita |
It seems Linden Labs should be a supporter, since Oxbridge teaches their new users how to operate in Second Life. |
| 15:31 |
Martini Discovolante |
s dealers. |
| 15:31 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I don't know what margins he has to work with. |
| 15:31 |
Martini Discovolante |
that is a delicate subject, Miss Navarita. |
| 15:31 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Yes, we think so, but Linden Lab does not :( |
| 15:32 |
Tali Rosca |
I don't think Desmond rents full sims in Caledon. You can rent a homestead, though, dubbed "duchies". |
| 15:32 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
It seems to me that the terms of any land in Caledon should only involve Des and the potential renter |
| 15:32 |
Martini Discovolante |
egss and baskets, eggs and baskets. |
| 15:33 |
Patrick (patrlck) |
can any class be tought here, other than SL tricks and safety, or how to make something in SL?, I mean can a rl type of class work here? |
| 15:33 |
Martini Discovolante |
no sir. |
| 15:33 |
Gronk Seriman |
Linden Lab, over the years, went from "Kum-bay yah!" to " Pay the rent!" |
| 15:33 |
Tali Rosca |
We are teaching subjects which have relevance to SL. But some of that can cross into RL skills as well. |
| 15:33 |
Tali Rosca |
Notably, something like 3D design. |
| 15:33 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I concur with what Tali said (she's faster) |
| 15:34 |
Carl Metropolitan |
In the past Desmond has rented full sims, but it was very rare. |
| 15:34 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
Our real niche is to make new residents more competent ... not teach advanced topics |
| 15:34 |
Tali Rosca |
As has been mentioned before, Photography also teaches generally applicable topics about light and composition. |
| 15:34 |
Call me MegaLark (larkylouz) |
there are other educational places in SL with different goals. |
| 15:34 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Renting a full sim is a financial risk for him and he has children in college. |
| 15:35 |
Tali Rosca |
And while LSL is rather SL-specific, the general principles of programming applies. |
| 15:37 |
Patrick (patrlck) |
Is there a list of classes you seek teachers for? |
| 15:37 |
Tali Rosca |
Word, that would be your cue. |
| 15:37 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Wordsmith is our Dean of Education. He can help with that. |
| 15:38 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Not specifically, at the moment. We do have one on avatar appearance in the works. |
| 15:38 |
Tali Rosca |
More advanced 3D modeling/Blender classes are often mentioned, but we may be crossing into a territory where other resources may be better. |
| 15:38 |
Patrick (patrlck) |
Do you have a class for Making Money in SL? |
| 15:39 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Other topics we accept proposals for, again relevant to SL, and with enough on a notecard to indicate what the outcome for the student is and that the proposed instructor appears to be able to organize the information. |
| 15:39 |
Martini Discovolante |
we have had. |
| 15:39 |
Martini Discovolante |
ssellign in SL. |
| 15:39 |
Gronk Seriman |
!Give LL your credit card info. Class dismissed! |
| 15:39 |
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David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) laughs |
| 15:40 |
Call me MegaLark (larkylouz) |
:^) |
| 15:40 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Since it is an artisan economy, the skills plus a large amount of time spent with them lead to that. |
| 15:40 |
Tali Rosca |
Personally, I'd imagine that once people are at a stage where they can actually make money on what they do, they know SL well enough to know how to do it. |
| 15:40 |
mghriga |
is there a transcript for the class I just missed (sorry) |
| 15:40 |
Patrick (patrlck) |
I was asking because the Making Money in SL seems to attrack a lot of aspiring entrepreneurs |
| 15:41 |
Tali Rosca |
It does, until you tell them that since they are earning real money, they have to put in real work. |
| 15:42 |
Tali Rosca |
(Transcript of the QA will be up soon after the QA. The other classes don't have transcripts, to my knowledge, though you can often ask the teacher for the materials, if that makes sense for the class). |
| 15:42 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
Patrick, part of the problem is that people want to earn money before they know how to walk, much less build and sell. Selling and marketing in SL is an advanced art |
| 15:42 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
One can look on Marketplace (via the SL website) and get a fair idea of what people are making and selling. |
| 15:42 |
Tali Rosca |
Most new people who want a "job" in SL expect it to be a dropdown menu where they choose their "job" and then farm gold. |
| 15:43 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
There is a college text book called "Marketing in Virtual Worlds" that uses SL as an example |
| 15:43 |
Patrick (patrlck) |
Ok then, I wont bother with any further suggestions on that topic :) |
| 15:43 |
Martini Discovolante |
by the tiem a person learns enough to have a marketable skill, they have usually acquired the knowlege they need to actually SELL the itme or service. |
| 15:43 |
Tali Rosca |
The fact that they are competing against 8-year veterans in design tends to dampen that enthusiasm. |
| 15:44 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
And unless you are *really* good at something, you will likely get about $0.50 an hour |
| 15:44 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
There is "inworld employment" in the forums but don't ask me how good they are. |
| 15:44 |
Martini Discovolante |
and honestly-- there are SOO many selling options out there, inworld, MP, different vendor styles, etc. |
| 15:44 |
Tali Rosca |
On the other hand, I strongly encourage people to create if they so desire. If it catches their fancy, they *will* train, and they will then acquire marketable skills. |
| 15:44 |
Martini Discovolante |
and i tell them if they do not love it-- do not do it. |
| 15:45 |
Tali Rosca |
So in my opinion, I think Oxbridge should focus on creating for the joy of it; whether people choose to make it their work is up to them. |
| 15:45 |
mghriga |
very noble goal |
| 15:46 |
mghriga |
(being a newbie on SL , I used this platform to larn ..) |
| 15:46 |
Martini Discovolante |
most will spend far more RL tiem than they can ever hope to recoup here. |
| 15:46 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
There is a jewelry making platform above for example |
| 15:46 |
ShaRa Ishtar (shannonraven) |
what's a "jewelry making platform", please? |
| 15:47 |
Carl Metropolitan |
And there is no money in the "helping new residents" business. Zip. Zero. Nil. Nothing! |
| 15:47 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
On the otherhand, there are replicas and other things that can be created for SL that the average person couldn't afford in RL. |
| 15:47 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
I believe that the Altier (spelling?) lab is Dean Martini's baby. |
| 15:48 |
Call me MegaLark (larkylouz) |
sHArA, IT IS A skybox with tools for jewelry making |
| 15:48 |
Tali Rosca |
By and large, it is a sandbox which has a couple of helpful tools for that sort of work; measurement guides and such. |
| 15:48 |
ShaRa Ishtar (shannonraven) |
and why did you not tell me earlier??? ;o) |
| 15:48 |
Martini Discovolante |
we also held Office Hours there, but interest was low, so those stopped. |
| 15:49 |
Martini Discovolante |
a few use it. |
| 15:49 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
I do know a couple of people who have polished their skills to the point of being creators as a result of that. Kudos, Dean Marti |
| 15:50 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
There is a local teleport with a big "A" on it next to the one to the sandbox. |
| 15:51 |
Marzipan (marzipanmacbeth) |
Aha! I joined the group a while back, never got a notice, never knew where to find anything. Now all is revealed and all I need to do is find the sandbox! |
| 15:51 |
Call me MegaLark (larkylouz) |
Psst, Marzipan. I'll show you! |
| 15:51 |
Martini Discovolante |
not many use it, as i said. |
| 15:51 |
Marzipan (marzipanmacbeth) |
Larky, thank you! |
| 15:52 |
Marzipan (marzipanmacbeth) |
I thought it was a secret or maybe a joke. |
| 15:52 |
mghriga |
Thank you all |
| 15:52 |
Call me MegaLark (larkylouz) |
No. It is just that I can't remember how to spell it! |
| 15:52 |
Tali Rosca |
:-D |
| 15:53 |
Marzipan (marzipanmacbeth) |
;-) |
| 15:53 |
Tali Rosca |
Other topics before the hour is up? |
| 15:53 |
|
Gronk Seriman raises a hand |
| 15:53 |
Tali Rosca |
Yes? |
| 15:53 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Miss Gronk? |
| 15:54 |
Gronk Seriman |
I have a very old Animation Overrider. It's not perfect, but I'm used to it. I have had the AO completely destroyed twice now recently. Both times in very confusing and spectacular SL crashes. The Heads Up Display still works, but the buttons don't do anyting. It's as if the scripts are corrupted or gone. My question is...is this normal? That a crash can damage an inventory item that way? How can a viewer crash corrupt things that way? Has anybody else had a similar experience? |
| 15:54 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
It is relevant that the crashes were on a CAT vehicle I think? |
| 15:55 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I assume you tried resetting the script? |
| 15:55 |
Gronk Seriman |
That was the latest crash. |
| 15:55 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Rather the scripts in the object? |
| 15:56 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Here is something it might be. Often low end animation overriders are packed with animations of questionable provenance. Sometimes AOs will fail when the original animation creator DCMAs the animations. |
| 15:56 |
Gronk Seriman |
I researched and tried everything I could find. They were corrupt or gone. |
| 15:56 |
Tali Rosca |
But no, it is not normal. A viewer crash should not affect inventory at all; seen from the server, you're just cutting the connection. |
| 15:56 |
Gronk Seriman |
That's what I thought, Tali! |
| 15:57 |
Call me MegaLark (larkylouz) |
I'm not clear, Gronk. Did your viewr crash, or did the CAT go up in flames? |
| 15:57 |
Tali Rosca |
I can see how it could possibly corrupt your cache of the animations, but even that is a bit of a stretch. |
| 15:57 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
I think Carl may have something there. LL used to tell you they replaced something... now a DMCA take down is just pulled without notice |
| 15:58 |
Gronk Seriman |
There are crashes. And there are CRASHES! The two wrecking crashes took me a while to recover from. |
| 15:58 |
Tali Rosca |
Rather unlikely that a DMCA would coincide with a crash, though. |
| 15:58 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Since scripts are stored on the servers and never actually run on your computer, it would take some sort of server-crash or data corruption to wreck them. |
| 15:59 |
Meora (menchor) |
the airship crashes were pretty spectacular |
| 15:59 |
Gronk Seriman |
I doubt DCMA has anything to do with it. I recently discovered many of the animations in the AO were simply LL Library th9ings. |
| 16:00 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Even there, logging into a new sim should force a refetch from the inventory server. |
| 16:01 |
Gronk Seriman |
I guess I'll chalk it up to Live and Learn. And try to keep a fresh copy. Now...distributing a fresh copy over all my avatars....geez. |
| 16:01 |
Tali Rosca |
So unfortunately, there is not an easy "Oh, that. Yeah, that's just...." answer. |
| 16:01 |
Carl Metropolitan |
It is four pm now. That's the end of our hour. |
| 16:01 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Thanks to everyone for coming and for their questions. |
| 16:02 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Bedtime for me, I'm afraid |
| 16:02 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
Thank you Deans |
| 16:02 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Thank you all. |
| 16:02 |
Call me MegaLark (larkylouz) |
Thank you all. |
| 16:02 |
Meora (menchor) |
thank you deans |
| 16:02 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Goodnight. |
| 16:02 |
David Cooper-Pentewyn (deebeecooper) |
Good night Elf ...sleep well |
| 16:02 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Be seeing you |
| 16:02 |
Ololo Petya (olopierpa) |
good night |
| 16:03 |
Tali Rosca |
That seems to be what we have time for, yes. See you next week. |
| 16:03 |
Gronk Seriman |
Thank you Deans! |