Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2014-07-27

15:04 Tali Rosca Let us start now.
15:04 Steadman Kondor yes, but there is an ejector built in after 10 secs, dean carl
15:04 Tali Rosca Welcome to this week's QA with the Deans.
15:05 Tali Rosca As most of you know, it is a somewhat freeform questions-and-answer session, where we will do our best to answer questions of general relevance to Oxbridge.
15:05 Tali Rosca You can see our area of responsibilities here: http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna_index.php
15:05 Tali Rosca So, who has the first question?
15:06 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Situation of the airship network?
15:07 Tali Rosca ....long silence...
15:07 Carl Metropolitan Jorge Serapis would know.
15:07 Meora (menchor) 1 line was running yesterday
15:07 Tali Rosca I've not heard anything in a while, but then, I must admit I have not gone out of my way to check.
15:07 Martini Discovolante you will have to ask Jorge.. we reall y have nothing ot do with it.
15:07 Steadman Kondor hmm mr serapis is sometimes here unfortunately not today.
15:07 Carl Metropolitan He's the head guy at Caledon Air Trasport
15:08 Wordsmith Jarvinen Mr. Serapis had several of the lines running.
15:08 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Okay
15:09 Red Quixote yes,. there is a sleeping pose built in to both the male and female sit menus,.. it was a sort of running joke between Ravelli and I
15:10 Wordsmith Jarvinen There's a CAT status report here. http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna/qna_20140622.php
15:10 Wordsmith Jarvinen At 15:57: ... Sumie and Judy Vee are flying.
15:11 Wordsmith Jarvinen Dorothy's new route is in beta testing.
15:12 Tali Rosca So I think that's as much as we know.
15:13 Tali Rosca Other questions?
15:13 Meora (menchor) sumie was not running yesterday
15:14 Gronk Seriman raises a hand
15:14 Wordsmith Jarvinen Miss Gronk?
15:14 Gronk Seriman I have noticed, with sadness, that the Oxbridbe Gazette dispensers no longer cheerfuly hand me a copy. Is that feature gone now?
15:15 Carl Metropolitan They have the low prim, non-animated version that he made for the SL11B celebration out now.
15:15 Steadman Kondor it should , miss seriman. i will investigate the dispenser after this meeting
15:15 Larkylouz That was a very cute animation. I liked it too, Gronk
15:15 Steadman Kondor the new issue is due at start of august, but no changes were made to the existing yet
15:15 Wordsmith Jarvinen We likely should restart the sim after this meeting. The inworld schedules are also not updating.
15:16 Gronk Seriman Allrightie. I saw it once, but never again.
15:16 Steadman Kondor ah mr carl is correct. yes the mesh versions dont have arm movements
15:18 Gronk Seriman So it's a prim/resource reduction thing?
15:19 Steadman Kondor yes. but i will take your interest in the animated version on board.
15:19 Steadman Kondor there are still some tweaking/optimising to be done on the dispenser
15:19 Wordsmith Jarvinen Likely could split the mesh to have a separate arm piece.
15:20 Red Quixote you'd have to
15:20 Kamilah Hauptmann I suppose a bot would just be one more not quite useful enough agent in the sim.
15:20 Larkylouz Give that dodo bird a job to do!
15:20 Gronk Seriman I thought it was cute. An attention-getter. Makes reading the copy more likely.
15:21 John (fun23) gets rock out of shoe.
15:21 Steadman Kondor :) dodo would be a fun gazette staffer
15:21 Red Quixote ther ya go,.. .interns
15:21 Carl Metropolitan Martini makes great dodos
15:21 Tali Rosca An actual bot would not be a good idea, with our limited avatar count, at least here in Oxbridge.
15:22 Carl Metropolitan I used to have a dodo sculpture she made back when I could afford land.
15:22 Steadman Kondor martini makes great dodos.. of us, hehe, with her brains
15:22 Wordsmith Jarvinen We've been pushing avatar limits here for a couple of classes, so any decrement wouldn't be good.
15:22 Gronk Seriman That brings up another question...the grumpy janitor was not on duty in the sandbox last I looked. Is he gone?
15:22 Tali Rosca He is gone for now.
15:22 Steadman Kondor oh you are right! i hadn't seen him for a while now
15:23 Martini Discovolante he is on vacation.
15:23 Wordsmith Jarvinen As I recall, free bot control was ended?
15:23 Tali Rosca We don't have a server to host him, and paying for bot hosting doesn't seem worth it with the very limited functionality he was providing.
15:25 Steadman Kondor is it as simple as one of us who keeps a connection on, all day, to log in as dodo?
15:25 Gronk Seriman Poor guy! He was probably nearing retirement and a fat pension, too!
15:25 Steadman Kondor and here am i thinking to making him work out his later years
15:25 Larkylouz mutters, "Or lung cancer from those smelly cigars!"
15:26 John (fun23) looks over at you
15:26 Steadman Kondor giggles
15:26 Tali Rosca In principle, yes, it takes a server running METAbolt to keep him online.
15:26 John (fun23) and puts it out
15:26 Tali Rosca Though we would also have to update the inviter scripts he was controlling.
15:26 Steadman Kondor mr dodo doesn't realise that even if his beak dont inhale, his nostrils do
15:27 Tali Rosca For the time being, the group invite is handled by inworld scripts.
15:28 Tali Rosca -The client has gotten clickable links to groups since the heydays of the inviter bots.
15:30 Tali Rosca Other questions?
15:31 Carl Metropolitan Can I go take a nap now?
15:32 Skullphern hmm
15:32 John (fun23) i have one
15:32 lovejoy2199 Yes: Any new classes?
15:32 John (fun23) if you please
15:32 Martini Discovolante Carl, use the Sleep covered in Newspapers pose ;-)
15:32 Meora (menchor) Ha ha ha hahahaaa
15:32 John (fun23) what was ebbe thinking to talk about a new sl
15:32 Tali Rosca Let us take John's first.
15:32 John (fun23) thank you
15:32 Wordsmith Jarvinen Well, Samm Florian IMed me about teaching her occasional Land Impact class on Friday.
15:32 Steadman Kondor takes out his notepad. Yes I'd to take not of any new classes for the editorial
15:33 Tali Rosca We're good, but we're not mind readers. You'll have to ask him.
15:33 Wordsmith Jarvinen I haven't yet confirmed with her, but it's on the web schedule.
15:33 Red Quixote that is a good class Word,. it was packed last time she gaveit
15:33 John (fun23) mutters
15:33 Wordsmith Jarvinen This is the current schedule. The inworld one's haven't updated since 21 July. http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/class_schedule.php
15:34 Wordsmith Jarvinen (not because I haven't made the update)
15:35 Steadman Kondor how about miss lindal's avatar customisation class?
15:36 Steadman Kondor is it too soon to mention that as forthcomign in the editorial?
15:36 John (fun23) but thank you
15:36 Wordsmith Jarvinen I haven't heard anything more from her on that.
15:36 Martini Discovolante ask her.
15:38 Tali Rosca It seems like a fairly quiet day. Other topics?
15:38 Meora (menchor) is that class dealing with the mesh avatars?
15:39 lovejoy2199 Good question
15:39 Steadman Kondor it deals with navigating through them and the classic ones i believe.
15:39 Meora (menchor) good they really don't tell newbies anything about how the mesh ones work
15:39 Steadman Kondor miss larky has also finished an article to help newbies go from mesh to classic avatars
15:40 Wordsmith Jarvinen The LL mesh avatars are well .... quit using them if you want to customize.
15:40 Meora (menchor) unfortunately they include a mesh head
15:40 lovejoy2199 Also, mesh clothing.
15:41 Kamilah Hauptmann Hey, what's wrong with an entirely mesh avatar? ;)
15:41 Martini Discovolante koffs
15:41 lovejoy2199 You have to adjust your avatar to the clothes.
15:41 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Hard to modify.
15:41 Meora (menchor) some of the commercial ones stop at the neck
15:41 Wordsmith Jarvinen Nothing, until you want to start swapping clothes and hair.
15:41 lovejoy2199 How do you do that?
15:42 Steadman Kondor i have commissioned an article on the feet and shoes as well for the newbie - hopefully it will turn out to be useful for those who want to make their heels or toes turn out well
15:42 Tali Rosca Arguably, a mesh *head* is one of the easiest things to match with existing clothes.
15:42 Larkylouz And I assume the issues are with the new LL newbie avatars, not mesh in particular. I did try to emphasize that in my article.
15:43 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) I wonder how well it incorporates things like masks and tattoos.
15:43 Meora (menchor) the clothes with the Library mesh avatars are fitmesh
15:43 Lyn Navarita What is the advantage of a Mesh avatar over the older ones like I have?
15:44 Meora (menchor) if you can match your skin they have more triangles and are smoother in appearance
15:45 Tali Rosca You can get some prettier hands and feet in particular, and the area around the nose also often deforms weirdly on the standard avatar.
15:45 Meora (menchor) hands and feet can be done with the standard avatar
15:46 Lyn Navarita Is there a performance difference? For the resident or servers?
15:46 Steadman Kondor there are some mesh face structure that you cant get through the classic shape modifying too. there are also tools to convert an RL picture to a mesh object, so it's handy for creating an RL replica
15:46 Tali Rosca Overall, you can get some more detailed shapes, at the cost of difficulty in customizing it.
15:46 Gronk Seriman You can play with invisibility, glow and shininess on a mesh avatar which you never could on a standard avatar.
15:46 Steadman Kondor shiny rosy cheeks!
15:47 Tali Rosca Performance-wise, yes, mesh avatars cost a bit more. If nothing else, they have to be downloded.
15:47 Lyn Navarita I've spent enough time being standard.
15:47 Steadman Kondor or slimey gooey cheeks, as you please
15:47 Steadman Kondor the one drawback with mesh shapes had been no facial animation
15:48 Tali Rosca I am not sure how clever the client is in completely short-circuiting the standard avatar if you turn it entirely invisible.
15:48 Steadman Kondor but i've seen some work on making them blink and mouth-move
15:48 Tali Rosca I *fear* that the client will have to calculate both the normal (invisible) avatar and the mesh you wear.
15:48 Caith Lynn (caithlynnsayes) has a mesh head that does expressions
15:48 Wordsmith Jarvinen I recall some early examples of mesh expression changes using texture changes.
15:49 Tali Rosca That said, it is unlikely to be those polygons which bring any significant performance impact, compared to what else is going on.
15:50 Lyn Navarita How can you tell the difference? ARC or Draw Weight maybe?
15:50 Steadman Kondor nods to miss caith. very well done
15:50 Caith Lynn (caithlynnsayes) yes, I agree
15:50 Tali Rosca nods. "The ARC is only a rough measure, though."
15:53 Tali Rosca Other questions for the last minutes?
15:53 Steadman Kondor We are looking for a variety of articles focussing on SL businesses, designed for the newbie for the Sept 1 gazette.
15:53 Steadman Kondor please IM me if you have some ideas.
15:54 Steadman Kondor Also, we have some spots to fill for our class sponsor program. Thanks to those who have enquired already. Please contact me also if you are interested.
15:56 Wordsmith Jarvinen Red, you are now doing projects in animation office hour?
15:56 Red Quixote yes
15:56 Steadman Kondor notes that for the editorial
15:56 Wordsmith Jarvinen That's on Wednesdays.
15:57 Red Quixote I have a few ideas ,.. but the first project, woudl deal with the material covered
15:57 Red Quixote aye wednesdays
15:58 Steadman Kondor last Q&A dean wordsmith, you mentioned serialising some classes?
15:58 Steadman Kondor is there further to update on that?
15:59 Wordsmith Jarvinen Potentially, yes. That might happen to scripting for example.
15:59 Wordsmith Jarvinen None yet. I've some rewrites to mesh class first.
15:59 Steadman Kondor nods
16:00 Tali Rosca If there are no other questions, let us adjourn for today.
16:00 Kamilah Hauptmann needs to dash for some family things.
16:00 Steadman Kondor farewell vicerine :)
16:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thank you all for coming.
16:00 Steadman Kondor till later
16:00 Martini Discovolante bye Your Glory
16:00 Carl Metropolitan Bye
16:00 Martini Discovolante and thanks everyoen for comign today