| 15:01 |
Tali Rosca |
Greetings and felinecitations. This is the weekly "QA with the Deans", where we will try to answer questions about Oxbridge or SL in general, or at least guide a discussion about relevant topics. |
| 15:01 |
Tali Rosca |
We seem to be a little short-handed with deans tonight, but we each have an area of expertise, as listed here: http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna_index.php. |
| 15:02 |
Tali Rosca |
So, with the introduction done, who has the first question? |
| 15:02 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Do felinecitations come with a CATalog? |
| 15:03 |
Meagan Ittup Asaigo (fictionalcharacter) |
Only if you are a cheatah |
| 15:03 |
Tali Rosca |
That, and the infamous cat lag. |
| 15:03 |
Larkylouz |
Only if we have significant donations to the kitty. |
| 15:03 |
Noriko Engawa |
Puns. Purrfect. |
| 15:03 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Only if the chat is particularly noir. |
| 15:04 |
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Gronk Seriman claws for something witty to say. |
| 15:04 |
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Larkylouz suggests we paws for Gronk to contribute. |
| 15:04 |
Steadman Kondor |
greetings all, i hope i'm decent. i was working on a 'cherub' avatar shape last night... |
| 15:04 |
Tali Rosca |
...and this is what happens when we have had a slow week in SL. |
| 15:05 |
Steadman Kondor |
god forbid i forget to change before i log in blind |
| 15:05 |
Tali Rosca |
Should we say anything? |
| 15:05 |
Meagan Ittup Asaigo (fictionalcharacter) |
Nic. Noir w/ tennies |
| 15:05 |
Meora (menchor) |
just laugh quietly |
| 15:05 |
Tali Rosca |
Joking apart, Steadman, you seem fairly normal, so don't worry. |
| 15:05 |
Steadman Kondor |
phew |
| 15:06 |
Tali Rosca |
So, no questions? |
| 15:06 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
At least within a standard deviation of normal. |
| 15:06 |
Tali Rosca |
People are still shell-shocked from last week? |
| 15:06 |
Larkylouz |
I have one. |
| 15:06 |
Tali Rosca |
Yes? |
| 15:07 |
Larkylouz |
I got into a discussion with a young woman who was lurking andhad multiple 'blood clan' and other vampirish groups in her profile. |
| 15:08 |
Meagan Ittup Asaigo (fictionalcharacter) |
Yes??? |
| 15:08 |
Larkylouz |
She said she was not a vampire, but was a 'blood doll', I think she cdalled it. She also said that vampires from blood clans do not prey on unwilling victims and do not recruit. I found the discussion interesting, but wondered if this information fits with what others have experienced? I don't know whether to believe she was standing on our lawn playing with gestures or not? Just curious, really. |
| 15:08 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I seem to remember something about a competition the blood clans were having. |
| 15:09 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Blood dolls are sort of voluntary slaves of vampires |
| 15:09 |
Larkylouz |
And trying ot find a balance between fair play and keeping newbs safe. |
| 15:09 |
Tali Rosca |
Obviously, "do not prey on unwilling victims and do not recruit" rather contradicts observed behavior. |
| 15:09 |
Carl Metropolitan |
As long as "vampires" or vampire RPG players don't harass or do bite invites here, I don't care if they come to Oxbridge. |
| 15:09 |
Larkylouz |
Yes, I am not going to go into my hesitations with their lifestyle. |
| 15:10 |
Carl Metropolitan |
It's behavior that usually gets them in trouble. |
| 15:10 |
Meagan Ittup Asaigo (fictionalcharacter) |
As long as they are not actively soliciting ... But hanging out at the landing pad is kinda a red flag |
| 15:10 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Well, no clan tags to be worn here ... we don't need to know if they are a quart low (or even a litre). |
| 15:10 |
Tali Rosca |
Some "clans" do tell its members not to do it. And I guess we never see them. |
| 15:10 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Poblem, is, we don't know what kind of messages they send to newcomers in Ims. |
| 15:10 |
Carl Metropolitan |
We don't know what kind of messages anyone sends to new people in IM. |
| 15:10 |
Larkylouz |
She was down near the chat circle. |
| 15:11 |
Larkylouz |
Exactly, Mr. Skysmith. But I have backed off from mind reading. I am not very good at it. |
| 15:11 |
Steadman Kondor |
not sure if it's permissible but should the faculty consider some decoys |
| 15:11 |
Steadman Kondor |
alts, to check on violations like this |
| 15:11 |
Tali Rosca |
I have, on occasion, dropped by with an alt. |
| 15:11 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
We would have to register new alts all the time for decoys... |
| 15:12 |
Larkylouz |
I have logged on several times with what I hoped were vulnerable looking newbies. Never got a hit. Even from people I was pretty sure were lurking for no good reason. |
| 15:12 |
Steadman Kondor |
even if we just put a bot, a new one can go for 4-5 months i suppose |
| 15:12 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
If they are preying on the newcomers, that is |
| 15:12 |
Steadman Kondor |
as long as they are the default |
| 15:12 |
Tali Rosca |
Yes, I was about to say, I guess my alts are so old that they are not obvious targets :-) |
| 15:12 |
Steadman Kondor |
if a bot is sitting there and getting some offensive IMs... |
| 15:12 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I have quite a few recent newbie alts. If any of the deans want to borrow them, they may |
| 15:12 |
Steadman Kondor |
ah good :) that's right for your experiments |
| 15:13 |
Larkylouz |
I think it is one of Oxbridge's good qualities that I can tell people we dont' have many bots here. Only the one with his stinky cigars. |
| 15:13 |
Tali Rosca |
It seems to me, though, that those who spam vampire bites do so fairly uncritically. |
| 15:13 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
If recruiters can send messages that are only borderline against the rules, I don't think bots could figure them out at all. |
| 15:14 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
I have begun to suspect that Bloodliners have a sort of gang initiation of getting banned from places like Oxbridge. |
| 15:14 |
Meagan Ittup Asaigo (fictionalcharacter) |
I'm not sure whether it is either possible or desirable to protect visitors from the invitations they are bound to receive eventually in SL |
| 15:15 |
Meagan Ittup Asaigo (fictionalcharacter) |
Completely protect, that is. |
| 15:15 |
Tali Rosca |
I don't think it's enough of a problem, at least, to start to work out some complicated infrastructure for it. |
| 15:15 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
It is, until they get their bearings. |
| 15:15 |
Larkylouz |
I think it is positive to try to let them get through the orientation before they get a lot of 'interesting' invites. |
| 15:15 |
Meagan Ittup Asaigo (fictionalcharacter) |
Agree. |
| 15:15 |
Carl Metropolitan |
If it becomes a problem, then that's the time to worry about policies. |
| 15:16 |
Larkylouz |
I have no issue with where they do or what they choose after they have a bit of information. I feel as strongly about that as I do about encouraging them not to spend a mint on a house their first day. |
| 15:17 |
Tali Rosca |
I have little patience with people who invent edge cases to skirt, though. |
| 15:17 |
Larkylouz |
Clarify a bit, Tali, please? |
| 15:18 |
Tali Rosca |
"I was not *really* a vampire, and I am not recruiting; I was just telling them about it". |
| 15:18 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Yeah, sure..... |
| 15:18 |
Larkylouz |
yes, i agree. I didn't really believe her story about playing with gestures, as I didn't see her do it. But, I did want to see wha tothers had to say,a s I've not run into this before. Vampires are not high on my interest list. |
| 15:19 |
Meora (menchor) |
although I could see it if some newbie had one of the vampire starters |
| 15:20 |
Steadman Kondor |
good point... |
| 15:20 |
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Tali Rosca nods. "There are such cases, of course. Though even then, it should be fairly obvious whether they are telling *about* SL, or recruiting randomly." |
| 15:20 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
So, we can reply, "I'm not really banning you, I'm just removing your access to the sim." |
| 15:20 |
Carl Metropolitan |
How about some non-Oxbridge admin-related questions? We can answer lots of stuff. |
| 15:20 |
Steadman Kondor |
so would a newbie vampire still be targetted by an olbie from a bloodline |
| 15:20 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Wouldn't be in their database. |
| 15:21 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
They constantly are |
| 15:22 |
Larkylouz |
Wordsmith, I assume it would not be appropriate to eject a vampire unless I actually catch them at inappropriate acts. Is that true or should I be more aggressive about it? |
| 15:22 |
Tali Rosca |
Vampires are perfectly welcome here. |
| 15:22 |
Tali Rosca |
Even roleplaying as a vampire would quite fit the Victorian theme. |
| 15:22 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
If they are wearing an active tag and refuse to take it off you can. |
| 15:23 |
Meagan Ittup Asaigo (fictionalcharacter) |
Vampires are probably more acceptable to the mainstream than are furries. |
| 15:23 |
Tali Rosca |
It's the recruiting and the spamming we do not want. |
| 15:23 |
Larkylouz |
Interesting insight, Ms. Asaigo. |
| 15:24 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Of if you get a message from somebody they IM'd with a recruit message you can remove them. Just being a vampire and behaving is acceptable. |
| 15:25 |
Larkylouz |
I've never had anyone complain. That said, I do not want to beat this into the pavement. I think I have learned what I was after. Thank you, all. |
| 15:25 |
Tali Rosca |
Any other topics? |
| 15:25 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Yes, no point in sucking it dry. |
| 15:25 |
Phrynne |
I have a question |
| 15:25 |
Tali Rosca |
Yes? |
| 15:26 |
Larkylouz |
eeeuuuww, Wordsmith. |
| 15:26 |
Gronk Seriman |
Yes I think we discussed that topic to the bleeding edge. |
| 15:27 |
Phrynne |
Might it be possible to update the posters for Explore the Steamlands and Explore Caledon, and the notecards in them, that are just outside? They list a number of places that no longer exist -- Armada Breakaway closed last year, and we no longer have Caledon Sound or the Gaity Theatre or some of the other places mentioned. |
| 15:27 |
Tali Rosca |
Good catch. |
| 15:27 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I am working on that. |
| 15:27 |
Phrynne |
People get discouraged when they try to go to places that don't exist now. |
| 15:27 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I have updated the Places to Learn. |
| 15:27 |
Carl Metropolitan |
And am working on that card next |
| 15:28 |
Phrynne |
okay. thank you. |
| 15:28 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I'm sorry I got delayed by lots of stuff recently |
| 15:28 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I will try to finish that one tonight. |
| 15:28 |
Tali Rosca |
Great work. Thanks. |
| 15:29 |
Tali Rosca |
Other things? |
| 15:29 |
lovejoy2199 |
Question: Does the R/R run? And if it does, can you put up a list of times. |
| 15:29 |
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Gronk Seriman raises a hand. |
| 15:29 |
Tali Rosca |
R/R? |
| 15:29 |
lovejoy2199 |
Railroad |
| 15:30 |
Tali Rosca |
It runs, yes. I am not sure if it has a schedule, or if it simply arrives when it happens to pass by. |
| 15:30 |
Steadman Kondor |
mr jayleden did send me a notecard of places to visit, a few weeks ago |
| 15:30 |
Meora (menchor) |
the train arrives here at about :55 minutes |
| 15:31 |
lovejoy2199 |
Once an hour? |
| 15:32 |
Meora (menchor) |
yes |
| 15:32 |
Tali Rosca |
Ms. Seriman, you had a question too? |
| 15:32 |
Gronk Seriman |
Is there an attendance meter on the COU display at the Birthday Party? Any idea how well it is doing? It's a lovely display, by the way |
| 15:32 |
Carl Metropolitan |
No meter. |
| 15:32 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Thank you |
| 15:33 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I assume it is getting average traffic for the event. |
| 15:33 |
Gronk Seriman |
Ah. Thank you. |
| 15:33 |
Josain Zsun |
I believe the parcel tracks traffic |
| 15:33 |
Tali Rosca |
I'd think most people simply wander the sims. |
| 15:33 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I spoke on "Remaking the SL New User Experience" yesterday and that was well attended. |
| 15:33 |
Tali Rosca |
Often camming across the sim from parcels away. |
| 15:34 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Did that turn into another blog post yet? |
| 15:34 |
Larkylouz |
Is there a transcript of your talk, Dean Metropolitan? I would like to read it. |
| 15:35 |
Tali Rosca |
Carl, I saw some familiar names at your talk. (I had to bow out as my machine was overheating). Was it all "the usual suspects", or did you catch a new audience at that event? |
| 15:35 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Some new people. |
| 15:35 |
Tali Rosca |
SL11B seemed like a good opportunity for that. |
| 15:35 |
Carl Metropolitan |
But a lot of people who were already involved in stuff like Oxbridge does. |
| 15:35 |
Steadman Kondor |
it was in voice! very good to hear mr carl speak |
| 15:35 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I was hoping that some Lindens might come under an alt or in person. |
| 15:36 |
lovejoy2199 |
Sorry I missed it. |
| 15:36 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I gave the speech from an outline. So unless someone recorded it, I don't have a copy. |
| 15:36 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I'd been writing about nearly everything I covered in my blog for the past several months, so the content, but not the structure is there, at least. |
| 15:37 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
It's an opportunity for those from LL to listen, even if incognito. |
| 15:37 |
Tali Rosca |
Ebbe Linden has been making some noises about reviving the idea of community-driven gateways into SL, or SL2. |
| 15:37 |
Steadman Kondor |
is there a tool to record from sl voice? |
| 15:38 |
Carl Metropolitan |
No idea. |
| 15:38 |
Tali Rosca |
On the principle that LL's "official" introduction becomes a non-scalable bottleneck. |
| 15:38 |
Gronk Seriman |
A cassette recorder. Held near your computer speaker. |
| 15:38 |
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Steadman Kondor is old enough to know what a cassette recorder is... |
| 15:39 |
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Gronk Seriman smiles |
| 15:39 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Yes he has. He also met on the 19th with the Help Education Quorum a new group who's members consist of the leaders of most surviving former Resident Help Network, Community Gateways and successor organizations. |
| 15:39 |
Meagan Ittup Asaigo (fictionalcharacter) |
I'm curious what will happen to SL communities when SL2 arrives. Will a single community try to have feet in both worlds? Will the communities fission? |
| 15:39 |
Tali Rosca |
So it would be advantageous if communities could advertise and draw people directly into "their" part of SL. |
| 15:40 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Who knows if SL2 will even work? At this point it is all speculation. |
| 15:40 |
Tali Rosca |
Meagan, nobody knows yet. |
| 15:40 |
Steadman Kondor |
SL2 might well be a new upgrade of SL1 though |
| 15:40 |
Steadman Kondor |
they just didn't want to be limited by that |
| 15:40 |
Tali Rosca |
LL is well aware that the communities and existing avatar identities are major selling points. |
| 15:40 |
Tali Rosca |
So I think they will do their utmost to preserve those somehow. |
| 15:42 |
Tali Rosca |
Frankly, it's too early to worry about SL2. |
| 15:43 |
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Meagan Ittup Asaigo (fictionalcharacter) mutters "Have to worry about sumfin" |
| 15:43 |
Tali Rosca |
It is at least 2 years from even *launching*. Planning that far ahead... well, if your RL income is depending on SL, you should do it. |
| 15:43 |
Larkylouz |
Yes, I think there's an element of panic in some of concern about SL2 that is a bit premature. |
| 15:43 |
Tali Rosca |
But in that case, you're constantly keeping on the edge anyway. |
| 15:44 |
Josain Zsun |
If the Zombie Apocalypse doesn't get us first... |
| 15:44 |
Meora (menchor) |
Ha ha ha hahahaaa |
| 15:45 |
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Meagan Ittup Asaigo (fictionalcharacter) notes that Zombies were the only good newbie mesh avatars. |
| 15:46 |
Tali Rosca |
I still can't decide if the blaxploitation-pire is an embarrassment or entirely awesome. |
| 15:47 |
Larkylouz |
blax? Sorry. I'm not following. |
| 15:47 |
Meagan Ittup Asaigo (fictionalcharacter) |
It is popular, anyways. |
| 15:47 |
Tali Rosca |
The 70ies jive vampire avatar. |
| 15:49 |
Tali Rosca |
Other questions? |
| 15:49 |
Meora (menchor) |
anyone looked at the new mesh shapes? |
| 15:49 |
Steadman Kondor |
i'll send the n/c from mr jayleden to mr carl, about linden places to visit |
| 15:50 |
Steadman Kondor |
i wasn't sure who was updating those posters initially.. |
| 15:50 |
Carl Metropolitan |
It is weird that the two black male avatars were both vampires. |
| 15:51 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I did it the last several times, so I guess I'm stuck wtih the job :) |
| 15:51 |
Tali Rosca |
The starter avatars have never been strong on ethnic diversity. |
| 15:51 |
Steadman Kondor |
we need oxbridge interns ! :D |
| 15:51 |
Steadman Kondor |
as we do gazette interns |
| 15:51 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I called my blog review of the new starter avatars "Vampire is the New Black" |
| 15:52 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Oxbridge interns are called "tutors" |
| 15:52 |
lovejoy2199 |
LOL |
| 15:54 |
Tali Rosca |
Any last questions for the last five minutes? |
| 15:55 |
Steadman Kondor |
very quickly. we are looking at a new class sponsorship period |
| 15:55 |
Steadman Kondor |
from july to september. please contact me or click on one of the posters around us |
| 15:56 |
Steadman Kondor |
present sponsors will be invited to renew, of course, but there is room for more :) |
| 15:57 |
Carl Metropolitan |
How much is a three month sponsorship? |
| 15:57 |
Steadman Kondor |
if you like, to support our classes, you are welcome to send the n/c to a friend who perhaps might have a business, who might be interested to sponsor us |
| 15:57 |
Steadman Kondor |
it is 4000L |
| 15:58 |
Tali Rosca |
Let us wind down for today, then. |
| 15:58 |
Tali Rosca |
Thanks for coming. We'll be back next week, same cat-time, same cat-channel. |
| 15:58 |
Meora (menchor) |
meow |
| 15:58 |
Larkylouz |
Thank you, Deans. Thank you, everyone. |
| 15:58 |
Friends of Caledon Oxbridge Donation Medallion |
FictionalCharacter Resident gave a generous donation to Friends of Caledon Oxbridge to help support classes, tutorials, & tier at Caledon's Oxbridge |
| 15:58 |
Ololo Petya (olopierpa) |
Thank you |
| 15:59 |
Phrynne |
thank you, Deans |
| 15:59 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
We can wind down and, at 5p, Prof Wendyslippers can wind up. |
| 15:59 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Thank you all. |
| 15:59 |
Gronk Seriman |
Thank you, Deans! |
| 15:59 |
Larkylouz |
Glad to see everyone is ready to go to Cat for Oxbridge. |
| 15:59 |
Tali Rosca |
Heh, indeed. One of Caledon's clockwork dolls. |
| 15:59 |
Meagan Ittup Asaigo (fictionalcharacter) |
Thank you deans |