Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2014-06-08

15:01	Tali Rosca	Greetings and welcome to this week's QA. As usual, this is a somewhat freeform questions and answers session, where we will do our best to answer questions relevant to Oxbridge, spilling over into Caledon and SL in general.
15:01	Tali Rosca	Each dean has an area of expertise which you can see here: http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna_index.php, though there is a certain overlap in simply knowing what is going on in Oxbridge.
15:01	Tali Rosca	So let us set to it. Who has the first question?
15:01	Meora (menchor)	I have an easy one
15:01	Larkylouz	I seem to be being spammed by an anti-push shield?
15:02	Martini Discovolante	mr Ryu?
15:02	Mariano Fernandez (marianoryu)	I'm wearing it, though it only says the message once.
15:02	Martini Discovolante	is that your shield?
15:02	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Yes, it would be nice to have that turned off so I don't have to edit it out of the transcripts.
15:02	Tali Rosca	I can see Rachael's is chatting, too.
15:02	Meora (menchor)	what is the policy on bots in Oxbridge I saw one here a while ago I recognized
15:02	Larkylouz	I've seen at least two messages, Mariano.
15:03	Carl Metropolitan	How about everyone take the anti-push shields off while we are doing the Q&A
15:03	Mariano Fernandez (marianoryu)	I gave a copy to Ms. Rachael. I can detach mine.
15:03	Ravelli Ormstein	i guess that was an alt i made to record a video, some thought it was a bot
15:03	rachaelsundaze	I took mine off.
15:03	Meora (menchor)	I recognized this one from Xenia
15:03	Tali Rosca	With the avatar limit we have here, lingering bots are obviously now welcome.
15:04	Larkylouz	Certainly, I would like to know the name, Meora. I keep a list of troublesome sorts.
15:04	Martini Discovolante	not*
15:04	Tali Rosca	*not welcome, yes.
15:04	Martini Discovolante	that is one of the reasons we do not allow avatars to park here
15:04	Tali Rosca	There should be very little reason to run bots in Oxbridge in any case.
15:04	Tali Rosca	Bad typo there.
15:04	Meora (menchor)	princessss1
15:04	Martini Discovolante	(my favorite typo, usually!)
15:05	Larkylouz	ty
15:05	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	Hm. That name rings a bell..
15:05	Larkylouz	I've seen that name, too.
15:05	rachaelsundaze	I have a fairly serious question.
15:06	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Miss Sundaze?
15:06	Tali Rosca	Yes, Rachael?
15:06	Meora (menchor)	she was regularly appearing on Xenia and ignoring all efforts to communicate but they have a full sim little traffic and really didn't care
15:06	Martini Discovolante	i notivced the name today, but do not remember that av here for very long
15:06	Martini Discovolante	Miss sundaze?
15:06	rachaelsundaze	I got a message about a 'gift' that does horrible things to your pc and then shuts it down.
15:07	Tali Rosca	To that extent, untrue. It's the usual scare mails about a virus stealing your car and killing your dog.
15:07	rachaelsundaze	OK
15:08	rachaelsundaze	Whew!
15:08	Tali Rosca	That said, there are various scams and phishing attempts floating around.
15:08	Martini Discovolante	and "gifts" CaN affect you in Second Life.
15:08	Tali Rosca	But it's of the usual "trick you into revealing your password or give away money" type.
15:08	Ravelli Ormstein	phishing your logins is the worst what can happen
15:08	Larkylouz	Good not to accept something from someone you don't know. Especially if you haven't verified verbally that they are sending it.
15:09	Carl Metropolitan	The only way a gift in second life could do something to your PC would be by activating a website that you clicked "Yes load web page" that might be able to download something malicious to your computer. It is very unlikely.
15:09	Martini Discovolante	always confirm an outside URL before clicking on it.
15:09	Red Quixote	it's a good idea for everyone to take the avatar safety
16:04	Ravelli Ormstein	class
15:09		Martini Discovolante nods
15:09	Tali Rosca	As usual: If something asks for permissions, doublecheck who it is from, and if you expected it to ask for such permissions. In particular if it is the "money" permission which allows it to send money from your account.
15:09	Gronk Seriman	I HAVE been in an area where somebody set off something that literally crashed my graphics card, and required a reboot. But that was a greifing tool, not a gift.
15:09	rachaelsundaze	The note said just delete this one.
15:09	Martini Discovolante	Professor Kidd's class is wonderful.
15:09	Martini Discovolante	like RL, Delete and then empty your trash.
15:10	Martini Discovolante	just to make sure it is GONE.
15:10	Tali Rosca	And if something directs you to a URL, check the server address to make sure it is what it claims it is.
15:10	Martini Discovolante	welcome Dean Kondor!
15:10	Tali Rosca	All the usual internet rules apply here.
15:10	Ravelli Ormstein	a heavily particle spamming object might cause a viewer crash, in worst cases, but you just can reduce Max Particles in the settings
15:11	Carl Metropolitan	If it makes you feel better, keep in mind that any Second Life script, is actually running on a Linden Lab server and not on your PC.
15:11	Red Quixote	?? Do we have a 'full house' of Deans?.. I think this is a first in a very long while
15:11	Carl Metropolitan	That's why people can't copybot scripts, BTW. The scripts are never sent to your machine.
15:11	Carl Metropolitan	Hi Steadman.
15:11	Steadman Kondor	thank you dean martini, greetings all :)
15:12	Ravelli Ormstein	Hello Dean Kondor
15:12	Larkylouz	Speaking of particle spamming, I had an experience on Thursday where I saw particle spams - of Teddy Bears - that no one else could see. Last night, one of my students claimed the same thing when I had a troll in class. Lindal had never heard of such a thing. Anyone else?
15:12	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Greetings, Steadman.
15:12	Tali Rosca	That's a new one to me.
15:12	Martini Discovolante	some may have particles OFF?
15:12	Ravelli Ormstein	perhaps the particles were facing to you only, hard to say
15:13	Carl Metropolitan	Vaguely possible, but only if the other people have their particle display rate set to off and the person seeing is set to on.
15:13	Sauce Sorrowman	or the number of particles maxed out
15:13	Larkylouz	That's possible, of course. I do keep such settings on so I can deal with problems if they arise.
15:13	Meora (menchor)	I was there last night didn't see it and have particles all the way up
15:13	Ravelli Ormstein	thats the right way, Larky, but you can reduce it to a low value around ~1000
15:13	Tali Rosca	The new-ish ribbon particles could possibly react a little unexpectedly too.
15:14	Larkylouz	The student in question didn't even seem to be familiar with particle spams.
15:14	Meora (menchor)	although she did crash shortly after asking
15:14	Larkylouz	Thanks for the feedback. Lots of turkeys around this past week.
15:14	Ravelli Ormstein	thats what i meant by "facing you", the orientation
15:14	Larkylouz	She did, indeed, Meora.
15:15	Tali Rosca	"Normal" particles always face you, though.
15:15	rachaelsundaze	Is there a list of common things that are good to turn off (general to any browser)???
15:15	Larkylouz	I was sitting facing the class; that may be the difference.
15:15	Carl Metropolitan	Can you see the ribbon particles by moving your camera around the source in a circle?
15:15	Steadman Kondor	turning off camera - ie quiet snapshots is good
15:15	Tali Rosca	Yes; camera position should affect ribbons.
15:16	Tali Rosca	Most of the custom settings people typically use have to do with the build and selection tools, and I often flip them around as the situation warrants.
15:17	Larkylouz	I keep streaming music and 'allow media to autoplay' off.
15:17	Tali Rosca	"Select only my objects" or limit by distance or similar.
15:18	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Lowers some of the building hazards.
15:18	Tali Rosca	Other than that, it's much a matter of personal preference. And once you start playing with that, you'll probably also start looking at different third-party viewers to see which fit your style.
15:18	Ravelli Ormstein	when i set my graphics to Ultra, i instantly reduce Max Particles to ~1000, cause they can produce some viewer lag and... in case of a griefer... even a crash.
15:19	Carl Metropolitan	I turn up RenderVolumeLOD in the debug window to 4.0.
15:19	Larkylouz	What does that affect, Carl?
15:20	Carl Metropolitan	Rendering of sculpties and mesh
15:20	Sauce Sorrowman	didn't they change the default render volume so that wasn't so necessary any more?
15:20	Larkylouz	ty
15:20	Tali Rosca	It is essentially an extra boost to the "Mesh detail" sliders in the graphics settings.
15:20	Carl Metropolitan	Well, they said they did. It has not worked that way for me.
15:20	Tali Rosca	It governs how quickly your level-of-detail drops.
15:20	Tali Rosca	Be aware that changing that causes a performance hit.
15:20	Carl Metropolitan	If I use the default RenderVolumeLOD everything looks kind of crappy
15:21	Wordsmith Jarvinen	But, also means you aren't seeing quite what newbies see. It can hide actual level of detail problems.
15:21	Camden McAndrews	RenderVolumeLOD increases the detail of mesh and sculpt rendering at the expense of proportionally increased load on your graphics card.
15:21	Ravelli Ormstein	hm, my SL viewer usually had this setting at 2, so objects were flipping often to the lower LODs. in Firestorm i have it at 3 or 4, depending on situation
15:22	Wordsmith Jarvinen	With sculpties, there wasn't a lot of control on level of detail. There's a lot more in creating mesh objects that degrade resolution well with distance.
15:23	Tali Rosca	It requires jumping through quite some hoops to control the LoD drop on sculpts, though a well-designed sculpt can in fact control it to some extent.
15:23	Tali Rosca	But that is definitely one of the big advantages of mesh.
15:24	Tali Rosca	Other questions?
15:24	Tali Rosca	Yes, Mariano?
15:24	Mariano Fernandez (marianoryu)	I have one.
15:25	Mariano Fernandez (marianoryu)	I was wondering if the scripting class had been organized, or at least how it's going. :p
15:25		Ravelli Ormstein pokes Word
15:25	Very old leather fireside chair DINKIE, WITH PILLOW whispers	(⇞PgUp or ⇟ PgDn ) change your pose. Touch for menu.
15:25	Wordsmith Jarvinen	I'm hoping I may actually run a trial version this Monday.
15:25	Carl Metropolitan	Does Zen still do scripting office hours?
15:25	Tali Rosca	Wow. That sounds great.
15:25	Wordsmith Jarvinen	It may get added to in subsequent weeks.
15:26	Mariano Fernandez (marianoryu)	Can you specify a time?
15:26	Carl Metropolitan	Also, there are scripting classes at other places, too. I hate to send people away from Oxbridge, but you can always try Builder's Brewery or NCI.
15:26	Wordsmith Jarvinen	It's actually on the Monday schedule for 5p right now.
15:26	Carl Metropolitan	They both have schedules on the web.
15:26	Carl Metropolitan	Like we do.
15:27	Larkylouz	Is Samm's new class ongoing?
15:27	Carl Metropolitan	I heard good things about it.
15:27	Wordsmith Jarvinen	It's an occasional class.
15:27	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Rather like Brigadoon.
15:27	Larkylouz	heee
15:27	Tali Rosca	I don't see the scripting office hour on the schedule?
15:27	Larkylouz	cue the bagpipes!
15:27	Meora (menchor)	once per 100 SL years?
15:27	Steadman Kondor	i dont think sir zen can make it back regularly yet
15:27	Wordsmith Jarvinen	It will appear semi-regularly on the schedule, but not every week.
15:28	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Thanks, Steadman (on Zen)
15:28	Mariano Fernandez (marianoryu)	Thank you Mr. Jarvinen. I'll try to make it if possible.
15:29	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Zen hadn't been able to make it to the office hours for a while. I have deactivated the class from the schedule but not removed the information.
15:29	Carl Metropolitan	I wish we had a Mesh Office Hours. I've been beating my head against the wall on a blender problem for a week now.
15:29	Steadman Kondor	rl have been keeping him preoccupied at the moment, he says. I am thinking of asking him to participate with a Q&A section in the gazette.
15:29	Wordsmith Jarvinen	And Prof Larky's basic photo class will be occasionally shifting time for European participants.
15:30	Steadman Kondor	he does look forward to coming back when able
15:30	Ravelli Ormstein	Carl, you can ask me after the Q&A if you like
15:30	Niki Listern	I got to go I am sorry it was good seeing you all again bye
15:30	Tali Rosca	Remember, you can always catch a tutor as they hang around outside. They can answer questions on the fly, and we do have both mesh builders and scripters around.
15:30		Sauce Sorrowman too actually
15:30		Sauce Sorrowman runs
15:31	Mariano Fernandez (marianoryu)	And I.
15:31	Mariano Fernandez (marianoryu)	Be back later and Emperor keep you!
15:31	Ravelli Ormstein	Bye you three, thanks for coming
15:31	Carl Metropolitan	I shall grab one of you. I'm trying to learn Blender for RL work reasons.
15:31	Martini Discovolante	and we have the Scholars Group Chat, as well, for questions.
15:31		Tali Rosca has a decent grasp of Blender, too, though by no means an expert.
15:32	Wordsmith Jarvinen	There are also independent groups like Mesh Dev and Blender Users.
15:32	Ravelli Ormstein	yes, there are many excellent creators in our group and willing to help too
15:32	Carl Metropolitan	Okay. I will annoy them after Q&A
15:32	Red Quixote	I can also be helpful with Blender questions
15:33	Tali Rosca	Other questions?
15:33	Gronk Seriman	Raises a hand.
15:33	Tali Rosca	Yes?
15:33	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Miss Gronk?
15:33	Gronk Seriman	Has Second Life done away with the flight ceiling? I used to include a Flight Feather in all my outfits, especially ones I explore in. But it doesn't seem to be necessary any more.
15:33	Red Quixote	long ago
15:33		Ravelli Ormstein sees a tropy
15:33	Tali Rosca	Yes, that is along time ago.
15:33	Steadman Kondor	yes a while ago now... you'd still fly faster with a feather :)
15:33	Red Quixote	last year sometime?
15:33	Gronk Seriman	Ah! I never got the memo.
15:33	Tali Rosca	Longer.
15:34	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	Ver long time ago.
15:34	Tali Rosca	It was at the same time they raised the build limit.
15:34	Carl Metropolitan	I don't recall if a flight feather does flight acceleration.
15:34	rachaelsundaze	(Or a rocket belt :-)
15:34	Ravelli Ormstein	Miss Seriman, are you using the SL viewer or Firestorm? Firestorm has it in-built in the Bridge
15:34	Gronk Seriman	Firestorm.
15:34	Carl Metropolitan	But there are lots of free gizmos that do.
15:34	Tali Rosca	There are lot of different flight enhancers. "Flight Feather" is a fairly generic term by now.
15:35	Camden McAndrews	It says here: "Max. unassisted fly height - Stable hover at current ground elevation plus 5020m. " http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Limits
15:35	Gronk Seriman	It was simply to get past the seiling. It's just that I noticed recently I no longer seemed to need the Flight Feather.
15:35	Wordsmith Jarvinen	cavorite ......
15:35	Tali Rosca	But yes, you can still use them for speed.
15:35	Gronk Seriman	Ceiling
15:36	rachaelsundaze	(Crash!)
15:36	Ravelli Ormstein	Miss Seriman, check your inventory, if you wear a Firestorm LSL Bridge... that's it
15:36	Tali Rosca	That "Limits" page is a good URL to remember. A lot of useful information there.
15:36	Carl Metropolitan	Yes. I put it in my Picks, I got so many questions it answered.
15:36	Camden McAndrews	Yes, it's certainly one of my favorites. :)
15:36	Steadman Kondor	is there any limit to how many griefers we can eject for a sim in a minute?
15:37	Camden McAndrews	You can find it fast with any web search engine for "second life limits"
15:37		Ravelli Ormstein smiles at Steadman
15:37	Steadman Kondor	.... with all deans in tow? and many prof's too.... lol
15:37	Tali Rosca	If you use the script control of the ban lists, there are, in fact.
15:38	Carl Metropolitan	I like scripted banlists, but they are not allowed under the Caledon Covenant (last I looked)
15:38	Tali Rosca	Ban *links* are not, where you share ban information with others.
15:39	Tali Rosca	You're free to make your own scripted *tools* if you find that convenient.
15:39	Tali Rosca	But the principle in Caledon is that you're judged on what you do in Caledon; not what somebody else say about you elsewhere.
15:39	Camden McAndrews	I think it's ban lines that aren't allowed. And that Redzone thing.
15:40	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Ban lines and security orbs below 500m
15:40	Ravelli Ormstein	thats true
15:40	Ololo Petya (olopierpa)	but there are some banlines
15:40	Ravelli Ormstein	in Caledon?
15:40	Ololo Petya (olopierpa)	I have met them
15:40	Tali Rosca	The yellow stripes across the landscape?
15:40	Ololo Petya (olopierpa)	yes
15:41	Ravelli Ormstein	either you are banned there manually, or it is a new resident not knowing the rules
15:41	Carl Metropolitan	Here is what the covenant says:
15:41	Wordsmith Jarvinen	They would be in violation of the covenant.
15:41	Tali Rosca	That is fairly unusual. They shouldn't be there.
15:41	Ololo Petya (olopierpa)	probably the second case
15:41	rachaelsundaze	As Arnold used to say "I'll be back" but I got to fix something....
15:41	Martini Discovolante	unless you yourself have been banned on a particular property, they are not allowed by covenant
15:41	Carl Metropolitan	"j) No ban lines. Singular exception: You may ban individuals from your land on a name by name basis. No active ‘security orbs’ or whatnot below 512m altitude (above is ok). Systematic abuse of bans (for instance: banning all members of a group one-by-one indiscriminately) violates the spirit of this rule. Note: 12 June 2010 ~ due to a significant number of 'spite bans' that seem to last for years, which decrease the overall enjoyment of Caledon for longtime residents, I'm very close to eliminating land bans of any kind. If someone is being methodically harassed, they might earn a ban from the entire country if it's truly warranted. But if a disliked person is leaving you alone ~ drop the ban. "
15:41	Tali Rosca	Do individual bans show up as banlines for that person?
15:41	Camden McAndrews	Maybe inform folks that limiting access to group or object entry will create ban lines.
15:41	Martini Discovolante	i beleive they do,
15:42	Tali Rosca	Time to ban an alt, I think, and check.
15:42	Ololo Petya (olopierpa)	next time I encounter them I'll report to one of you, then
15:42	Martini Discovolante	please do.
15:43	Tali Rosca	WE can help, but strictly speaking, that is none of our business.
15:43	Larkylouz	I also sometimes see yellow lines that appear to be parcel markers, not ban lines. I've seen those right here in the plaza, so I kno wthey're not ban lines.
15:43	Tali Rosca	We have no authority outside Oxbridge.
15:43	Martini Discovolante	usually a polite note to the owner of the land will suffice.
15:43	Carl Metropolitan	Just to clarify, Oxbridge is not part of any "caledon government".
15:43	Wordsmith Jarvinen	And the bit against sharing that Tali mentioned. This is not a prohibition against bans of identified griefers. It is forbidding forming snit groups and cliques that ban people.
15:43	Carl Metropolitan	We can help you, but simply as long time caledon residents with some degree of respect in the community.
15:44	Tali Rosca	...and the knowledge of who to contact.
15:44	Ololo Petya (olopierpa)	ok. I have not griefed anyone, not here nor anywhere else :)
15:44	Carl Metropolitan	Any authority we have ends outside of Oxbridge
15:44	Carl Metropolitan	Unless the dean also happens to be a Caledon Estate Manager.
15:44	Carl Metropolitan	Which some may be.
15:44	Carl Metropolitan	Or happens to own most of Mayfair :)
15:44	Martini Discovolante	many times folks have put down a house or an item that creates a security line, and as the owner do not even realize it
15:45	Martini Discovolante	as the owner, they never see it.
15:45	Ololo Petya (olopierpa)	yes
15:45	Tali Rosca	Sometimes, it can be a good idea to have an alt drop by. There are a couple of issues you never see as the owner.
15:45	Tali Rosca	Teleport routing is another good example.
15:46		Ravelli Ormstein nods
15:46	Martini Discovolante	oh yes. i hav eto rign Oxbridge Organiser in to test land marks etc.
15:46	Martini Discovolante	(FYI, if anyone sees him---he is me ! :)
15:46	Camden McAndrews	Now I know!
15:47	Carl Metropolitan	There are several Oxbridge admin accounts
15:47	Carl Metropolitan	Oxbridge Guardian
15:47	Carl Metropolitan	And one other I've forgotten.
15:47	Carl Metropolitan	Oxbridge Mint
15:47	Tali Rosca	There is a decent chance that Oxbridge Engineer will be me.
15:47	Martini Discovolante	Oxbridge Ohare
15:47	Camden McAndrews	I see a trend here... :)
15:47	Carl Metropolitan	That's it.
15:47	Carl Metropolitan	What does Oxbridge Ohare do?
15:47	Martini Discovolante	as little as possible
15:48	Martini Discovolante	he is lazylazylazy
15:48	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Circles waiting for landing clearance?
15:48	Tali Rosca	I didn't even know that one.
15:48	Josain Zsun	He only has privilege on St. Patrick's Day
15:48	Camden McAndrews	Ah, the official Oxbridge Slacker
15:48	rachaelsundaze	Isn't that the tiny rabbit?
15:48	Carl Metropolitan	So he doesn't have a role like Mint, Guardian, Engineer, or Organizer
15:48	Carl Metropolitan	Oxbridge Guardian is a tiny rabbit too
15:48	Martini Discovolante	when i was able to get Oxbridge Organoser, he was out of work.
15:48	Martini Discovolante	oxbGuard is a Dodo
15:49		Larkylouz perks up very pointed ears. Did someone mention mints??? "I love mints!"
15:49	Carl Metropolitan	Oh. I'm confused then.
15:49	Martini Discovolante	:)
15:49	Carl Metropolitan	Oxbridge Mint controls all of Oxbridge's L$
15:49	rachaelsundaze	(Well, you know, tinys have more fun! :-) lol
15:49	Tali Rosca	Guardian is the cigar-chomping dodo.
15:49	Martini Discovolante	i will not tell him that you forgot
15:49	Ravelli Ormstein	ah, yes Oxbridge Mint!
15:49	Steadman Kondor	this is the metallic kind of mint
15:49	Larkylouz	:^)
15:50	Larkylouz	Hi Johann
15:50	Wordsmith Jarvinen	I "Mint" myself when doing the Oxbridge instructor stipends, for example.
15:50	Johann Reisende (reisende04)	Hi Larky :)
15:50	Tali Rosca	Other questions?
15:51	Carl Metropolitan	Can I plug my latest blog essay on SL's new user experience?
15:51	Tali Rosca	I think you just did :-P
15:51	rachaelsundaze	Question
15:51	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Link?
15:51	Carl Metropolitan	No. This is doing that:
15:51	Carl Metropolitan	http://jcarlhenders.tumblr.com/post/88055702829/second-life-new-user-experience-the-good-the-bad-and
15:51	Carl Metropolitan	"Second Life New User Experience—The Good, the Bad, and the Embarrassing "
15:51	Carl Metropolitan	Now I've done it.
15:52	Carl Metropolitan	Rachael, I stepped on your question. What did you want to ask?
15:52	Ravelli Ormstein	oh, i will read it now
15:52	Ravelli Ormstein	ok, not now, but later
15:52	rachaelsundaze	Do the new Linden mesh avatars work with non-mesh clothing?
15:52	Martini Discovolante	nope.
15:52	Wordsmith Jarvinen	And not necessarily with other mesh clothing.
15:52	Martini Discovolante	well prm clothign, perhaps.
15:53	Carl Metropolitan	And not even with each other's mesh clothing!
15:53	Martini Discovolante	as attachemnts.
15:53	Tali Rosca	Well, on some edge case, you can say that it works with sculpt or prim clothing, but that's probably not what you mean.
15:53	Camden McAndrews	*blink* New mesh avatars from Linden Lab? Are they in the Library?
15:53	rachaelsundaze	That IS confusing,
15:53	Ololo Petya (olopierpa)	yes
15:53	Larkylouz	Yes. But beware, Mr. McAndrews.
15:53	Tali Rosca	Yes; the different types of avatars is causing a fair bit of explanation.
15:53	Carl Metropolitan	They are in the library, and they are confusing.
15:53	Larkylouz	<snort>
15:54	Carl Metropolitan	I wrote on them Rachael shortly after they came out
15:54	Larkylouz	A fair amount of plaza nudity, too, I must say.
15:54	Martini Discovolante	you can find them most readily in the AVATAR tab in your viewer... the one with the wo standign avatars icon
15:54	Tali Rosca	Carl, do you have any comments to add to that blog entry?
15:54	Martini Discovolante	two*
15:54	Carl Metropolitan	"Vampire is the New Black--A Look at Second Life's New Mesh Starter Avatars"
15:54	Carl Metropolitan	http://jcarlhenders.tumblr.com/post/85883235654/vampire-is-the-new-black-a-look-at-second-lifes-new
15:54	Carl Metropolitan	That will explain a lot of the issues.
15:54	rachaelsundaze	wow
15:54	Larkylouz	The photographers are having all sorts of fun with that new Zombie avatar.
15:54	Carl Metropolitan	Also check out Iris Ophelia's review of them:
15:55	Carl Metropolitan	http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2014/05/second-lifes-new-mesh-avatars.html
15:55	Carl Metropolitan	"Body Snatchers: Second Life's New Mesh Avatars May Do More Harm Than Good to New Players"
15:55	Tali Rosca	They are not bad for what they are, but they present a problem in standardization and just general direction to go in overall.
15:55	Tali Rosca	I think LL massively missed an opportunity by not standardizing mesh and shape on those.
15:55	Johann Reisende (reisende04)	i agree on that
15:56	Carl Metropolitan	Oh, I missed Tali's question. My new blog post is on a few things that LL has fixed in the New User Experience, and some more things they still need to.
15:56	Tali Rosca	They could have introduced the de facto "avatar 2.0" that way.
15:56	Ravelli Ormstein	they will get confused totally. even the difference between system and prim hair was too difficult, so they used to wear both
15:56	Carl Metropolitan	They also went to outside contractors to develop the new mesh starter avatars
15:56	Carl Metropolitan	Apparently no one at the lab had any idea that SL creators were (trying) to use mesh standard sizing
15:56	Ravelli Ormstein	Carl, were there any changes to the New Avatar Experience in the last month?
15:57		Josain Zsun keeps wondering when the next client update will render my AV invisible until I trade it in for a Meshy one.
15:57	Tali Rosca	I am arguing that we should adopt the MakeHuman topology, so we have a shared mesh people can make clothes and skin for.
15:57	Carl Metropolitan	The new SL front page is a nice improvement.
15:57	Ravelli Ormstein	yep
15:57	Steadman Kondor	and mobile friendly
15:57	Carl Metropolitan	They fixed a few irritating things on the initial orientation path.
15:57	Carl Metropolitan	But the major problems have not been addressed.
15:57	Tali Rosca	LL did a couple of interesting things last week.
15:58	Carl Metropolitan	And I found some new issues on the InfoHubs
15:58	Carl Metropolitan	What did they do, Tali?
15:58	Tali Rosca	The revamp of the home page. I really like that it now shows *building* going on in SL.
15:58	Tali Rosca	They sponsored Drax and his "World Makers" webisodes, and are front-page featuring them on the new website.
15:58	Carl Metropolitan	They also brought back the “Your World. Your Imagination” tagline.
15:58	Tali Rosca	-Something a lot of people have been saying would make sense, but nobody thought they would actually do.
15:59	Tali Rosca	And on a bit of a tangent, they struck a deal with Emily Short, so Versu is now back in business!
15:59	Wordsmith Jarvinen	As opposed, perhaps to "our world, your imagination".
15:59	Carl Metropolitan	Ah. That's good news.
15:59	Larkylouz	heee
15:59	Carl Metropolitan	I talked some about the new front page.
16:00	Camden McAndrews	Sounds like they're getting back to what SL is about, instead of trying to be something it's not.
16:00	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Or, at the very least, understanding what SL is.
16:00	Tali Rosca	It was some nice surprises, but it's still only a week's worth. We'll see if it does, indeed, mark a new trend.
16:01	Carl Metropolitan	I was pleased they fixed a few minor things that were wrong on the existing orientation path.
16:01	Tali Rosca	With that, it seems our hour is up.
16:01	Carl Metropolitan	I also heard rumors that there is an ongoing A/B test with a more Oxbridge-like orientation path going on.
16:01	Camden McAndrews	OH cool!
16:01	Larkylouz	Thank you, Deans and Commenters.
16:02	Gronk Seriman	Thank you, Deans!
16:02	Wordsmith Jarvinen	Thanks you all for coming and participating.
16:02	Martini Discovolante	thanks everyone.
16:02	Camden McAndrews	I think I did fine with Orientation Island. I've always wondered why they closed it.
16:02	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	Bedtime for me.
16:02	Camden McAndrews	Night, elf!
16:02	Ololo Petya (olopierpa)	Thank you. Good night
16:02	Gronk Seriman	Nighty night!
16:02	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	Be seeing you.
16:02	Martini Discovolante	night Mr EB!
16:02	Ravelli Ormstein	thank you all for coming
16:02	Steadman Kondor	thank you all! have a good day. Please remember to contact me if you are interested in contributing to the gazette... or i will be tapping on your shoulder anyway!
16:02		Steadman Kondor smiles
16:02	Larkylouz	<grin>