Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2014-04-13

14:54	Tali Rosca	What's with all the people arriving early today??
14:54	Sauce Sorrowman	regarding the seat thing - it does eventually move you to the right place.
14:55	Stacey (epiphany.carnell)	Think we're all a little eager :P
14:55	Gronk Seriman	Nice! A Four Dean Night!
14:55	Larkylouz	Yeah, man. This is the entertainment of the week here.
14:55	Stacey (epiphany.carnell)	Haha :)
14:56	Sauce Sorrowman	/me starts the chaos.
14:56	Stacey (epiphany.carnell)	Lol, reminds me of a cartoon
14:56	Carl Metropolitan	It needs to say "16 Tons" on the side
14:56	Steadman Kondor	It's nice to be here inworld for a change and to see everyone rather than just hear
14:57	Sauce Sorrowman	/me apologises to Dean Kondor, he was not the intended recipient of that delivery.
14:57	Sauce Sorrowman	/me has terrible aim.
14:57	Stacey (epiphany.carnell)	Is this a voice session?
14:57	Meora (menchor)	Ha ha ha hahahaaa
14:57	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	Text chat only
14:57	Ravelli Ormstein	nope, pure chat
14:57	Stacey (epiphany.carnell)	Cool thanks, haven't got voice turned on, thought I'd make sure
14:58	Sauce Sorrowman	weird, Tali - think your dress is changing your LOD. you derender if I cam outside.
14:59	Tali Rosca	It shouldn't be *all* that expensive, though I don't know if June has done something silly with the lower LoDs.
14:59	Sauce Sorrowman	um
14:59	Meora (menchor)	hmm
14:59	Sauce Sorrowman	Rav?
14:59	Ravelli Ormstein	yes?
15:00	Sauce Sorrowman	did you move the hall?
15:00	Ravelli Ormstein	nope
15:00	Mentadent	what happened??
15:00	Carl Metropolitan	Someone moved the hall
15:00	Stacey (epiphany.carnell)	I've been getting strange things like that in different places today
15:00	Martini Discovolante	not i! i am eatign cheese :)
15:00	Gronk Seriman	I've heard of "Raising the Roof", but raising the floor?
15:00	Carl Metropolitan	I moved it back.
15:00	Sauce Sorrowman	/me looks at Martini
15:00	Sauce Sorrowman	it's always Martini. :P
15:01	Steadman Kondor	shaken, not stirred...
15:01	Stacey (epiphany.carnell)	:D
15:01	Mentadent	I found a seat, but I'm still not seeing the benches in here
15:01	Sauce Sorrowman	still a bit low, Carl - check the steps outside
15:01	Martini Discovolante	/me says "nopeh!" with a mouthfull of crackers
15:01	Larkylouz	/me vows to quit multitasking if it means she misses the excitement.
15:01	Red Quixote	hello everyone
15:01	Ravelli Ormstein	Hi Red
15:01	Tali Rosca	We had the chairs rezzed on the original position.
15:01	Stacey (epiphany.carnell)	Hey Red :)
15:01	Larkylouz	Where's Professor Quixote?
15:01	Tali Rosca	You can use that as guide.
15:02	Sauce Sorrowman	oh true.
15:02	Josain Zsun	/me These new benches are always an nteresting ride.
15:02	Tali Rosca	While they are doing industrial-strength redecoration, I'll open.
15:02	Tali Rosca	As I said in the announcement, that time again!
15:02	Tali Rosca	Welcome to the weekly QA, where we, the deans of Oxbridge, will try to answer questions - or at least guide the discussion - about Oxbridge or Second Life in general.
15:03	Tali Rosca	When it comes to Oxbridge, each dean has an area of responsibility, which you can see here: http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna_index.php
15:03	Tali Rosca	As most of you know, the QA is a fairly free-for-all questions-and-answer session with no set topic, apart from being relevant to SL, and Caledon in particular.
15:04	Tali Rosca	So who has a question?
15:04	Aine Bealtaine (abealtaine)	/me raises hand
15:04	Tali Rosca	Yes?
15:05	Aine Bealtaine (abealtaine)	Will Caledon be involved in the SLBirthday events this year - and - will there be SLB this year?
15:05	Steadman Kondor	Mr Carl just talked about using the recently built stands for SLB I think
15:05	Tali Rosca	I can hardly imagine there not being something, whether arranged by LL or residents.
15:06	Carl Metropolitan	Yes. I saved a copy of the Oxbridge display from Virtual Worlds Best Practices in Education 2014 to reuse in SL11B
15:06	Tali Rosca	But I don't know if there are any plans for Caledon to participate.
15:06	Carl Metropolitan	I'm still a member of the SLB group, so I assume I will get a notice when it is time to claim a plot.
15:06	Aine Bealtaine (abealtaine)	OK - Thanks!
15:06	Carl Metropolitan	I will check to see that it is still happening.
15:06	Anna Davis (diamondcrystal84)	Hi all. I joined SL last year and i love it. I would like to say happy birthday to SL :)
15:07	Carl Metropolitan	My display is primarily for Oxbridge but covers Caledon in general too
15:07	Steadman Kondor	/me smiles. It was great to see our Oxbridge information plot, with all steampunky goodness, stand out at the recent virtual world education conference
15:07	Tali Rosca	It was, indeed, a nicely made display.
15:07	Aine Bealtaine (abealtaine)	Agree with Steadman - the VWBPE was very good!
15:07	Carl Metropolitan	Thank you.
15:08	Sauce Sorrowman	oh man, that engine from Equine...
15:08	Sauce Sorrowman	I stood drooling on that for about ten minutes
15:08	Ravelli Ormstein	11 here!
15:08	Tali Rosca	That was an impressive piece of well-designed mesh work.
15:08	Carl Metropolitan	He is amazing.
15:08	Aine Bealtaine (abealtaine)	/me oh, THAT was what I stepped in... (@ Sauce)
15:08	Tali Rosca	The low land impact in particular was impressive.
15:08	Carl Metropolitan	Oh, I blogged about the keynote speeches and a question possibly of interest to oxbridge:
15:08	Carl Metropolitan	http://jcarlhenders.tumblr.com/post/82453296228/a-tale-of-two-talks
15:09	Tali Rosca	A very convincing example of what can be done with mesh when people really use the features.
15:09	Carl Metropolitan	About LL support for groups like Oxbridge.
15:09	Tali Rosca	The non-registered educators?
15:09	Carl Metropolitan	Yes.
15:09	Carl Metropolitan	The in-world educators.
15:10	Tali Rosca	I saw the topic was mentioned, but I haven't read up on it. Can you give us a quick recap?
15:10	Carl Metropolitan	The "red-headed stepchildren" of SL educaiton :)
15:10	Carl Metropolitan	Hold on
15:10	Carl Metropolitan	I was able to get in one of the first questions of the afternoon:
15:10	Carl Metropolitan	(That’s a paraphrase of my original question by Phelan Corrimal, who was announcing all this on the fly from various IMs and notecards and chat questions he was being bombarded with.)
15:10	Carl Metropolitan	“There are a number of communities inside Second Life that have been self-supporting, and quite often most of them don’t get any money, they don’t get tier reduction. Groups like Caledon Oxbridge, the Builder’s Brewery group, the New Citizens Incorporated, these kind of groups. And then we’ve also had informal groups, like the SL Mentors that used to get a lot of support from Linden Lab in terms of the type of work that they were doing …
15:10	Sauce Sorrowman	/me just finished reading last week's log and is glad the troll didn't return.
15:10	Carl Metropolitan	they were getting support when we had community liaisons, but that seems to have disappeared, and a lot of these groups have broken-up. Is the Lab going to encourage these things to come back, and is there an opportunity for groups like NCI and other groups that are out there to be also able to participate in things like the tier breaks that educationals and non-profits are receiving?”
15:10	Carl Metropolitan	Ebbe Altberg answered (courtesy of Inara Pey’s complete transcript):
15:10	Friends of Caledon Oxbridge Donation Medallion	abealtaine Resident gave a generous donation to Friends of Caledon Oxbridge to help support classes, tutorials, & tier at Caledon's Oxbridge
15:10	Carl Metropolitan	"I don’t know exactly, because I don’t know any of these groups and exactly what they were trying to do. but if there are groups in there that are trying to do work in the educational space but they’re not for some reason qualified according to our current rules for what is an educational institution, what is not; is there a grey area there of some that sort-of belong to that community but they don’t have the credentials to say that they really are. I don’t know; maybe there’s an area there we can explore where there are people we could put in the bucket of the educational sector, even though they don’t have those explicit credentials to prove that they are, so to speak.
15:10	Carl Metropolitan	And that can become sort-of a tricky issue for us; who’s in, who’s out, who qualifies, who doesn’t. but if there are people there working for education, with the intent of supporting education but don’t necessarily work at an educational institution, then maybe there’s something we could do there.
15:10	Carl Metropolitan	But it could be a lot of work for us, with everybody trying to say that they are, but they aren’t. But I’m happy to look at how that current definition is set, and whether there’s some flexibility in letting more people in at those rates.”
15:11	Sauce Sorrowman	better get the Guv to the negotiating table again so.
15:12	Carl Metropolitan	Well, since Oxbridge isn't really run by Desmond, it is "Get Martini to the table"
15:12	Carl Metropolitan	Or "Get Steadman to the table"
15:12	Tali Rosca	It doesn't sound like he is thinking of inworld education about *SL*, though.
15:12	Ravelli Ormstein	" I don’t know any of these groups" ... we should invite him!
15:12	Steadman Kondor	It could mean upgrading this to full sim at educational rates, perhaps
15:12	Meora (menchor)	I bet he would have some questions for the deans
15:12	Sauce Sorrowman	point taken.
15:12	Carl Metropolitan	Ebbe's replied to me on twitter before. I am going to try to approach him again and offer him a tour.
15:13	Sauce Sorrowman	that would be cool
15:13	Tali Rosca	The deans will certainly be available to answer questions, if needed.
15:13	Martini Discovolante	well , tho Des has no hand in the running of Oxbridge ,he IS the landowner.
15:13	Josain Zsun	VWBR Keynotes ~90 minutes each. Scheduled for 60 Philip Rosedale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2WC0b_Lz-k Starts at 7:30 Ebbe Altberg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7pPgEHq7wo
15:13	Carl Metropolitan	And Oxbridge is the renter :)
15:14	Ravelli Ormstein	thanks for the Youtube links!
15:14	Tali Rosca	One thing that I noticed from Ebbe's talk, too, was that he outright promised that LL *is* working on rephrasing the controversial terms of service.
15:14	Martini Discovolante	yus, abut the tier designation would be with him, if edu rates were applied
15:14	Carl Metropolitan	This is a link to a transcript: http://modemworld.wordpress.com/2014/04/13/vwbpe-2014-ebbe-altberg-keynote-the-door-is-open/
15:14	Carl Metropolitan	Of Ebbe's speach.
15:15	Sauce Sorrowman	I've not seen Des in a while actually, timezones don't overlap so much.
15:15	Sauce Sorrowman	yes, saw that Tali - looks like someone there has some common sense after all.
15:15	Steadman Kondor	The Guv helped with some land transfer a week and a half ago?
15:15	Martini Discovolante	mr magic was in just recently
15:15	Steadman Kondor	/me nods
15:16	Sauce Sorrowman	good to hear. :)
15:16	Sauce Sorrowman	I know he was very unimpressed with the ToS and was a bit afraid he'd abandon things when I read his comments on it.
15:17	Tali Rosca	Des was fuming over the ToS.
15:17	Sauce Sorrowman	or at least withdraw from SL to some extent.
15:17	Tali Rosca	I think he withdrew all "personal" items and involvement, not directly related to Caledon.
15:18	Tali Rosca	We will see what the change will ultimately be. But this is a significant step over the "we may perhaps look at it" we had earlier.
15:19	Sauce Sorrowman	yes, someone is at least acknowledging the mistakes. as well as that bizarre ban on the Linden avatars.
15:19	Martini Discovolante	ban on avatars?
15:20	Sauce Sorrowman	yeah, there was some internal ruling that the official Linden avatars couldn't be used
15:20	Tali Rosca	Ebbe has been saying a lot of interesting, positive things. But whether they ultimately make it into SL and policy changes still remain to be seen.
15:20	Steadman Kondor	I like to think with the FB investment in virtual world, that LL is keen to keep the good will of the creators who make SL alive.
15:20	Sauce Sorrowman	which is why inworld meetings dried up a lot.
15:20	Sauce Sorrowman	so we should see some more communication, which would be nice.
15:21	Tali Rosca	Presumably, they wanted to control the communication and projects, rather than having people shortcircuit the procedures by going directly to a known Linden.
15:21	Sauce Sorrowman	"control" meaning avoid at all costs...
15:22	Steadman Kondor	So from the original question - when there are more details of a SL11B event announced, the faculty will let the Oxbridge Uni group know...
15:23	Sauce Sorrowman	that was quite the tangent.
15:23	Tali Rosca	That still leaves a question: Should *Oxbridge* participate separately?
15:23	Tali Rosca	Or would it be under the more general "Caledon" banner?
15:23	Josain Zsun	He state he reversed an internal non-communication & not going inworld policy for LL employees.
15:23	Ravelli Ormstein	if i remember right, Oxbridge had a display at the last SLB too
15:24	Martini Discovolante	i think if we took a space , it should be Oxbridge.. i would not take on representign all of Caledon.
15:24	Martini Discovolante	tho we are never separate from it :)
15:24	Tali Rosca	/me nods. "Though alternately, Caledon-at-large would arrange something, and we could pitch in with a part."
15:25	Martini Discovolante	a corner :)
15:25	Carl Metropolitan	The displays I have done in the past focused on Oxbridge, but had some information on all of Caledon.
15:25	Martini Discovolante	i made a build for someone else at last year's, but i cannot remember the plot size.
15:26	Martini Discovolante	we could do either.
15:26	Carl Metropolitan	1024 / 228 prims I think.
15:26	Tali Rosca	Let us keep the options in mind, and see what is announced for SLB in general.
15:26	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	When would that be?
15:26	Tali Rosca	And see if Caledon jumps on the opportunity, say, for a large presentation.
15:27	Carl Metropolitan	Okay. I just checked with Saffia Widdershins. There will be a SL11B this year. More to come when it is announced.
15:27	Tali Rosca	Or if it is better to do a smaller Oxbridge-specific one, depending on plot size and theme.
15:27	Carl Metropolitan	[15:27] Saffia Widdershins: news should be coming out soon
15:27	Tali Rosca	So let us wait for more specific news.
15:27	Carl Metropolitan	There has been an Oxbridge specific display at every SLnB since we started, so far!
15:28	Tali Rosca	Then I think there should be again :-)
15:28	Steadman Kondor	I would love to see a part of our SL11B showcase work by new Oxbridge scholars :)
15:28	Carl Metropolitan	The way it works is that each group has to apply for a space.
15:29	Tali Rosca	With some pitch for the build, according to theme, I think.
15:29	Carl Metropolitan	If both Caledon (as represented by Desmond, or an approved designee) and Oxbridge applied taht could be two spaces.
15:29	Tali Rosca	Though I don't know how important the specific details about the build is?
15:29	Carl Metropolitan	Nah--they don't care that much. The theme is usually something so vague, it doesn't matter.
15:30	Carl Metropolitan	I think I submitted last year in answer to the question "How will the display reflect the theme" "Not much at all"
15:30	Martini Discovolante	and the usual restrictions on buildign no-nos.
15:30	Tali Rosca	That's honest, at least :-)
15:30	Carl Metropolitan	To be fair, the them was something like "on to the future" :)
15:31	Martini Discovolante	and they have to inspect it, but i have never heard a comment as to theme-compatibility
15:32	Tali Rosca	That was a good tangent and discussion :-)
15:32	Tali Rosca	Any other questions?
15:32	Sauce Sorrowman	we should get a conch.
15:33	Martini Discovolante	to blow for announcements?
15:33	Sauce Sorrowman	whoever has the conch can speak :)
15:33	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	No vuvuzelas, thank you :-)
15:33	Martini Discovolante	Talkign Stick
15:33	Tali Rosca	This is SL. We should have something more outrageous for that.
15:33	Steadman Kondor	A talking picket fence ?
15:34	Sauce Sorrowman	something *more* outrageous than Lord of the Flies? oh dear.
15:34	Gronk Seriman	A steaming, smoking top hat.
15:34	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	Which one?
15:34	Meora (menchor)	with a steam whistle
15:34	Martini Discovolante	The Bluebird od inquisitiveness.
15:34	Tali Rosca	Ok, I think we need a question!
15:34	Tali Rosca	Before this goes completely off track.
15:35	Gronk Seriman	Cat? Airships?
15:35	Gronk Seriman	CAT?
15:35	Steadman Kondor	Caledon Air Tranport = CAT
15:35	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	Airship network update?
15:35	Martini Discovolante	oh-- sad news.. the original scripter, Kaluura Boa has passed away IRL.
15:35	Steadman Kondor	/me nods. I think announced yesterday in group chat
15:35	Gronk Seriman	oooo...
15:35	Aine Bealtaine (abealtaine)	:(
15:35	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	Augh
15:36	Ravelli Ormstein	i have not heard anything about it since a while, but we should give him at least two more days, since he said he will get it partially running to the 16th April.
15:36	Martini Discovolante	and i am not surewho Jorge has to pick up the reins
15:36	Meora (menchor)	there was a notice too
15:36	Carl Metropolitan	I think Jorge Serapis is overall head of CAT.
15:37	Sauce Sorrowman	he is, but he is having to rewrite a lot of the scripts because of region movements.
15:37	Martini Discovolante	be assured it is being worked on.. Jorge is payign tier on all that land anbd wants it functional.
15:38	Sauce Sorrowman	/me must slip away and go to bed. gnight all.
15:38	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	Good night
15:38	Ravelli Ormstein	good night, Sauce
15:38	Martini Discovolante	night, Prof Sorrowman! sleep tight.
15:38	Red Quixote	g'nite Sauce
15:38	Ravelli Ormstein	well, we have to walk by feet some more days then
15:39	Tali Rosca	Any other topics?
15:40	Meora (menchor)	or taake the train
15:40	Meora (menchor)	who is in charge of the Caledon Rail schedules
15:40	Tali Rosca	Though remember: In Caledon, trolley takes you!
15:41	Steadman Kondor	It is interesting to note that in some of the college science sims, they removed flying to make the students explore and discover
15:41	Tali Rosca	That is actually a good question. I think the railways are directly under Des.
15:42	Meora (menchor)	the train from here just misses the train that runs to Kittiwickshire
15:42	Ravelli Ormstein	oh
15:42	Martini Discovolante	depends on which section too, as to who built them... but they are all planned out adn commissioned by des
15:42	Tali Rosca	I think that is coordination on a level nobody has even dared do in SL.
15:43	Ravelli Ormstein	i don't remember the machinists name, i read it only once.
15:43	Tali Rosca	I know there was some talk about modernizing the railways, but other things took precedence.
15:43	Carl Metropolitan	Didn't Marion do some of the railway?
15:43	Tali Rosca	And the sim reshuffling shows how hard it will be.
15:44	Martini Discovolante	no-- i worked on the OXB one with a fellow, but cannot remember his name, checkign friends list now.
15:44	Tali Rosca	Given that the *CATs* have trouble in the *air*, imagine the work needed for actual rails.
15:44	Ravelli Ormstein	there was someone working on the rails when we got our train station here, same in the village. but that name is not well known, and i have forgotten it already
15:45	Martini Discovolante	Mike Bacula
15:45	Ravelli Ormstein	yes!
15:46	Martini Discovolante	he did from here thru Kintyre, over to teh southend.
15:46	Martini Discovolante	and where else i am not sure
15:47	Tali Rosca	My best guess is that we should not hold our breath for any updates to the railways any time soon.
15:48	Gronk Seriman	/me exhales. Getting dizzy.
15:48	Tali Rosca	Any other questions?
15:49	Gronk Seriman	The build contest area is still there. Any new rounds comming up?
15:49	Carl Metropolitan	Will Dean Ormstein be doing a mesh version of the cathedral?
15:50	Steadman Kondor	mr sauce is planning a new contest too
15:50	Tali Rosca	We don't have any build contest planned currently, but yes, the idea is to hold another one.
15:50	Tali Rosca	Nothing scheduled yet, though.
15:50	Ravelli Ormstein	yes, i already started working on the Cathedral, but a meshed Lecture Hall will come at first
15:50	Steadman Kondor	rl is delaying the competition it a bit, but not scheduled, yes
15:50	Tali Rosca	And Ravelli looks tired when we mention the cathedral.
15:51	Steadman Kondor	Dean Rav is doing such wonderful work with the building upgrade!
15:51	Martini Discovolante	:)
15:51	Red Quixote	Ravelli is doing a smashing re-work of the lecture hall
15:51	Steadman Kondor	We are glad to see the pictures in progress and the recent deployment
15:51	Tali Rosca	We recently did some brainstorming for the lecture hall.
15:51	Ravelli Ormstein	with all the help and inspiration i get it is fun
15:52	Tali Rosca	(Aka. all the backseat drivers with an opinion).
15:52	Carl Metropolitan	Oh great. I can't wait to see the lecture hall.
15:52	Carl Metropolitan	Do you have pictures on the web anywhere?
15:53	Meora (menchor)	can we get some seats that don't have a fight with the AO's?
15:53	Ravelli Ormstein	yes, the first three pictures on this page: http://ravelli.minus.com/mZh0cyV3ybIAL
15:53	Carl Metropolitan	Thank you
15:53	Tali Rosca	Ah, you have pictures from the interior brainstorming, too.
15:53	Ravelli Ormstein	or you can go up to the Atelier, there is the working version, with some test prims around
15:54	Steadman Kondor	/me hears Prof Red typing up a response perhaps for Miss Meora
15:54	Ravelli Ormstein	hopefully we can test it next sunday
15:54	Carl Metropolitan	Looks like a huge improvement!
15:54	Carl Metropolitan	I will!
15:55	Red Quixote	nope
15:55	Gronk Seriman	Ooo! Sloped floor seating!
15:56	Tali Rosca	I am not entirely sure what the animation strategy is currently, priority-wise and retriggering to override.
15:56	Larkylouz	/me pictures tinies rolling down the aisles. . .
15:56	Red Quixote	I would say for best results,. turn off your AO
15:56	Meora (menchor)	I turn the AO on
15:56	Meora (menchor)	and I stand up
15:57	Gronk Seriman	A sidewalk that runs to the main pathway would be nice. The grass gets so muddy sometimes.
15:57	Red Quixote	^^
15:57	Red Quixote	and you know Gronk doesn't like wearing shoes ;D
15:57	Ravelli Ormstein	Miss Seriman, from the Lecture Hall to the walkway? that is a good idea
15:58	Tali Rosca	I'll poke Sauce about the animations next I see him. Perhaps we could include some options, or some aggressive override of AO to at least ensure consistency.
15:58	Gronk Seriman	/me throws eye daggers at Red.
15:58	Red Quixote	/me ducks evasively
15:58	Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter)	/me sighs
15:59	Gronk Seriman	The high heels dig into the mud I'll have you know.
15:59	Red Quixote	I stand corrected
15:59	Tali Rosca	-The point with the sit script in the benches is that there is a single script controlling *all* benches, so it is highly specialized.
16:00	Tali Rosca	Anyway, I think that is it for tonight.
16:00	Tali Rosca	The hour is up.
16:01	Red Quixote	I believ it is possible to script an over-ride for any AO's that may be detected
16:01	Steadman Kondor	It's good to see you all here :) I will be on sabbatical for the next two meetings
16:01	Meora (menchor)	there are 6 male and female sits in the bench but no way to know that
16:01	Steadman Kondor	Looking forward to return
16:01	Tali Rosca	Sauce gets the same expression when mentioning the sit script as Rav gets when mentioning the cathedral.
16:01	Ravelli Ormstein	we should test that the next days, and I'm sure, Sauce will find a solution
16:01	Gronk Seriman	If you take off and rewear the AO, do you still have problems?
16:02	Meora (menchor)	yes but its the firestorm built in that I turn on and off
16:02	Gronk Seriman	Ah.
16:03	Red Quixote	all bets are off then
16:03	Tali Rosca	Thanks for coming. A good discussion tonight.
16:03	Aine Bealtaine (abealtaine)	/me applauds
16:03	Aine Bealtaine (abealtaine)	Thank you
16:03	Gronk Seriman	Thank you, Deans!
16:03	Red Quixote	good show
16:03	Ravelli Ormstein	yes, thank you all for coming!
16:04	Martini Discovolante	thanks all, have a goo evenign.
16:04	Larkylouz	Thank you, Deans.
16:04	Meora (menchor)	thank you deans
16:04	Steadman Kondor	/me bows and waves
16:04	Carl Metropolitan	Thank you all.
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16:04	Meora (menchor)	thats the other thing
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16:04	Meora (menchor)	it doesn't always sit you on the seat
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16:05	Josain Zsun	Or facing forward
16:05	Tali Rosca	I think it does, in fact. It just takes a long time to register sometimes.
16:05	Meora (menchor)	hmm
16:05	Red Quixote	the benches don't clash with my AO
16:06	Ravelli Ormstein	last Sunday the script was confused, it didn't set the SitTarget anymore. so i had to reset it
16:06	Meora (menchor)	I am listed as sitting