Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2014-04-06

15:03 Tali Rosca Welcome to the weekly QA.
15:03 Tali Rosca As most of you know, this is a somewhat free-form questions-and-answers session, where we will try to answer questions - or at least guide the topic - about what is going on in Oxbridge and SL at large.
15:03 Tali Rosca You can see our area of expertise here: http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna_index.php
15:03 Tali Rosca So, with a dramatic flourish, who has the first question?
15:04 Tali Rosca Or, possibly, who has the first question with a dramatic flourish?
15:05 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) /me doesn't have a question, but so many flourishes... :*(
15:05 Red Quixote is Wordsmith still away?
15:05 Ravelli Ormstein i think so, yes
15:05 Tali Rosca As I recall, yes.
15:05 Tali Rosca So what you see is what you get.
15:05 Red Quixote :)
15:05 Red Quixote we got good
15:06 Tali Rosca Well, if there are no questions, I can mention that we have had a fairly big, but surprisingly non-glaring change here in Oxbridge.
15:07 Tali Rosca Did anybody notice on the way here?
15:07 Meora (menchor) the hall of Caledon?
15:07 Ravelli Ormstein nope
15:07 Duke (nitos.dezno) no
15:07 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) If oyu meen materials. no
15:07 Phrynne the new fencing behind the hall of avatar appearance?
15:07 Mentadent It's spring now - lol
15:07 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) isn't it obvious? Mr. Skysmith is no longer a robot!
15:07 Tali Rosca The tutorial halls have been replaced with mesh versions of the buildings.
15:07 Larkylouz LOL
15:08 Ravelli Ormstein well, the fencing is new too, since last weekend, yes.
15:08 Larkylouz Don't make it hard for the Deans or anything, you all.
15:08 Duke (nitos.dezno) o bien
15:08 Nitos Dezno or
15:08 Duke (nitos.dezno) good
15:08 Tali Rosca They keep the same look very closely, but they actually have a lot more detail which you will likely go, "Oh! Didn't the old ones have that?" about.
15:08 Larkylouz Thanks for all the hard work, Deans. I know this has been in process for months.
15:08 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) :-) :-)
15:08 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) wel materials as i told just another way to bake
15:09 Red Quixote the new buildings look great :D
15:09 Ravelli Ormstein indeed, it took a year, round about, with some breaks :-)
15:09 Meora (menchor) materials resond to light
15:09 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) whispers: fac ehand so long!
15:09 Tali Rosca The credit goes to Rav, with some of us being backseat drivers.
15:09 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) It looks lovely
15:09 Meora (menchor) wel done
15:10 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) Has it lowered the LI?
15:10 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) not
15:10 Ravelli Ormstein it was a cooperation, the deans and some professors who came up with very good ideas and wishes. so we changed it again and again.
15:10 Tali Rosca Rav, I'll let you field those questions about the specifics.
15:10 Meora (menchor) if you increase the detail it looks better at the same LI
15:10 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) mesh does in dome ways. but in some way the way does make it more heavy
15:11 Ravelli Ormstein right now, the LI is a lil bit higher, at 68 LI i think. it was 57 before with the prim buildings.
15:11 Ravelli Ormstein there is still a potential to lower LI, but i don't want to have them look bad from distance, for those making photos and those walking around at lowest settings.
15:12 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) the news is that you have to look at the nder info. and se the date explode
15:12 Tali Rosca It was important to keep the same look, as it is very much a landmark of Caledon.
15:12 Mentadent what is nder info, pls?
15:12 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) typo
15:12 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) ormsteins chair is equal heavy as all nenches in the hall
15:12 Ravelli Ormstein yup
15:12 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) benches
15:13 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) that is because the mesh with the new materials eat it up
15:13 Ravelli Ormstein it has 69 LI
15:13 Tali Rosca You have a 69LI chair?!? o.O
15:13 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) 1,420 Ktris
15:13 Ravelli Ormstein this chair is a prim building, must be very old, i found it in my inventory
15:14 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) against 1.720 Ktris
15:14 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) that are the real engine values
15:14 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) the new ebgine doe slook at tris and Ktris not prims and mesh
15:14 Ravelli Ormstein but it looks nice, doesn't it? :-)
15:15 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) A FERRARI DOES LOOK NICE ALSO
15:15 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) oeps caps sorry
15:15 Tali Rosca There will be further meshification, and probably some tweaks as we go along.
15:15 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) I do not think that it will
15:16 Tali Rosca So that, at least, was some news from here in Oxbridge.
15:16 Meora (menchor) are you using mesh studio or an outside Sl application to make the mesh?
15:16 Ravelli Ormstein Blender only
15:16 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) The SL engine can not handle more
15:17 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) Blender is one option witha solution
15:17 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Airship network?
15:17 Tali Rosca Jorge is still pinned down by RL.
15:17 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) making a good mesh is not possible in belender for sl
15:17 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) sorry
15:17 Tali Rosca But he is fully aware and on it.
15:17 Larkylouz The CATs? I overheard Jorge say that it would be a month or two yet, I think.
15:18 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Okay.
15:18 Meora (menchor) Jorge said shooting for the middle of April yesterday
15:18 Larkylouz Thank you, Meora.
15:18 Meora (menchor) doesn't mean he is going to hit it
15:18 Ravelli Ormstein yes, some weeks back he said it would take a month to set up the first route, since he has to re-script the system. lets give him time for it
15:18 Gronk Seriman How about the trains? I haven't seen on in a long time.
15:18 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) let me guess that will be june
15:19 Martini Discovolante i have seen them here.
15:19 Larkylouz I see them periodically.
15:19 Meora (menchor) the one came by here at 3:56
15:19 Gronk Seriman Oh! OK.
15:19 Martini Discovolante you have to be quick!
15:19 Tali Rosca ...unless it decides to chase you.
15:19 Mentadent why is it "making a good mesh is not possible in belender for sl"??
15:19 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) question to the deans. how do you alls ee the future of sl?
15:19 Ravelli Ormstein there are several routes in Caledon. could be that one only is interrupted perhaps
15:20 Tali Rosca Blender is what most people use. I assume Peter just wanted to let us all know that he has some amazing, secret knowledge.
15:20 Mentadent and what is that knowledge?
15:20 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) That was not the question
15:21 Mentadent So WHJAT is wrong with Blender?
15:21 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) blender simple subduved a factor 2 + to much
15:21 Martini Discovolante After near seven years, i have learned not to speculate, or rumourate.
15:21 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) ...aw cripes....
15:22 Ravelli Ormstein future of SL, pretty hard to foresee. but we all now, nothing will exist forever. on the other side, Virtual Worlds are still something new and they will develop a lot over the next decades, so SL itself might vanish one day and we will move to another virtual world. well, one day... nobody knows when it will happen
15:22 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) maybe yesterday?
15:22 Beccha smiles
15:22 Larkylouz For the most part, I prefer to enjoy each day as it comes here.
15:23 Martini Discovolante every 6 hours
15:25 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) All i see is this. SL did miss the boat in materials as and shaders as well with sculpts. and now wioth mesh in some way as uploading . This in objects and avatars
15:25 Larkylouz In case there is someone here that I have not complained to, the most recent LLV has done a number on my low-level computer. Much less lag, much less detail. I mention it to remind you-all that not everyone's computer is going to see what most folks see. I actually discovered that a shirt I thought was solid has been See-through all this time.
15:25 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) is that calculated or just a big mistake?
15:25 Martini Discovolante no one knows.
15:25 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) I go from low level computers
15:26 Tali Rosca Any other questions?
15:26 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) Do you all have any contact to LL or lindens?
15:26 Mentadent Peter, with all your great knowledge and insights, - it seems to me you should found your own Cirtuaöl Worlds Company?
15:27 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) /me refuses to feed the troll.
15:27 Mentadent *Virtual
15:27 Tali Rosca No, Oxbridge has no special status.
15:27 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) thx
15:27 Tali Rosca And no secret insider contacts.
15:27 Ravelli Ormstein Larky, you should show us this shirt perhaps, just to find out how it happened. we can do that perhaps tomorrow
15:27 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) Ah ye si do have my own virtual world. b) I did work for LL
15:27 Martini Discovolante Ravelli!
15:27 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) and c) i know wvey well what is going on
15:28 Ravelli Ormstein Martini, not that way!!
15:28 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Great, LL politics...
15:28 Larkylouz /me looks cross-eyed at Ravelli and Martini.
15:28 Mentadent hehehe
15:28 Martini Discovolante shocked! shocked I tell you!
15:28 Ravelli Ormstein /me blushes
15:28 Meora (menchor) Ha ha ha hahahaaa
15:28 Martini Discovolante DOWN BEAR!
15:28 Martini Discovolante :P
15:28 Mentadent yeah - DOWN, you bear !!!
15:29 Martini Discovolante just teasign you, Rav -- there is no bigger gentleman in SL than this small bear!
15:29 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) you think that work? what does that meen?
15:29 Ravelli Ormstein thank you
15:30 Larkylouz Okay, all you models of Victorian civility, the shirt comes with a bra! (No comment on whether I always wore it!)
15:30 Larkylouz /me retires from TMI
15:30 Martini Discovolante :)
15:31 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) lol
15:31 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) scratch head
15:31 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Does not look transparent to me.
15:31 Tali Rosca As for other news about Caledon, I've been told that Red has something to add?
15:32 Martini Discovolante Professor Red!
15:33 Red Quixote I have prepared a new class for Oxbridge, I intend to debut it this tuesday @ 3pm SLT,...
15:33 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) :D
15:33 Martini Discovolante congratulations!
15:33 Steadman Kondor /me claps and grins
15:33 Mentadent great news
15:33 Red Quixote it is for all the students who wanted more classes on animation,. this one will deal with pose balls and attachments
15:33 Mentadent what is it?
15:34 Beccha wow
15:34 Duke (nitos.dezno) verdaderamente interesante
15:34 Nitos Dezno really interesting
15:34 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) That's exciting stuff!
15:34 Ravelli Ormstein excellent news!
15:34 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) /me unfurls two flags to wave them
15:35 Tali Rosca I assume that will have to touch upon scripting them as well?
15:35 Tali Rosca Or at least configuring standard scripts.
15:35 Red Quixote so,. .if you are interested in making your own poseballs and attachments,. do come out
15:35 Red Quixote yes Tali
15:35 Red Quixote I have endeavored to be thorough
15:35 Tali Rosca -Few things in SL are single-discipline.
15:36 Tali Rosca Great to hear about the new class, and thanks for doing it.
15:36 Martini Discovolante truetrue
15:37 Red Quixote it was in the interests of having fun
15:37 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) the problem in sl is not what you do. but how
15:37 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) and what is the level od know how
15:37 Red Quixote and animation is supposed to be fun,. indeed,. isn't that what the vast amjority of us are here for?
15:37 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) and that is just a . bla
15:38 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) you find not on any side the real good information
15:38 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) o thruth
15:38 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) no thruth i meen
15:38 Meora (menchor) didn't LL recently increase the length of an animation from 30 seconds to a minute?
15:38 Martini Discovolante i look forward to taking it , Red ~ long time since i made one :)
15:38 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) that is no improvement
15:38 Red Quixote I'm sure it will evolve as time goes by
15:39 Mentadent yeah - that class sounds interesting and promising
15:39 Martini Discovolante Welcome Tiago-- please right click on any bench and choose SIT
15:39 Tali Rosca Any other questions?
15:40 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) nah i go to bed have a good time all
15:40 Ravelli Ormstein Good night, Mr Peterman
15:40 Martini Discovolante cheers.
15:40 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) you all know what I meen
15:40 Duke (nitos.dezno) /me aplaude
15:40 Nitos Dezno / Me applauds
15:40 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) so that it will be
15:41 Mentadent sleep well, Peter13
15:41 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) LL is digging her own grave
15:41 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) bye bye
15:41 Duke (nitos.dezno) bye
15:41 Martini Discovolante buhbye, mr peterman
15:41 Red Quixote yeah,. cheer up,... some of us are trying to have fun here
15:42 tiago5988 where am i?
15:42 Mentadent hahaha
15:42 Martini Discovolante this si Caledon OXbridge, Mr Taigo
15:42 Tali Rosca As for other SL news, it may be worth mentioning that SL Go dropped their prices drastically recently, bringing them to a level which seem downright reasonable.
15:42 Martini Discovolante this si a place for beginners to learn about Second Life
15:43 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) /me feels ashamed that he doesn't know what SL go is
15:43 tiago5988 thank you
15:43 tiago5988 for answer
15:43 Tali Rosca SL Go is a 3rd party service which lets you run high-quality settings on a mobile device (or even on a low-powered PC).
15:43 Mentadent Take a seat , Tiago - this is the place for your questions ..
15:44 Tali Rosca It renders SL on a powerful server, and streams it as video to you.
15:44 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) :O
15:44 Tali Rosca They launched with some quite expensive prices, and caught a lot of criticism for it.
15:45 Martini Discovolante where we ask questions avbout Second Life
15:45 Josain Zsun They just announced lower rates.
15:45 Martini Discovolante what are the ates now?
15:45 Martini Discovolante rates.
15:45 Tali Rosca 1$ per hour, or 10$ for a month unlimited.
15:46 Martini Discovolante that is almost doable
15:46 Ravelli Ormstein 10 for a month is going to more fair
15:46 Martini Discovolante i would have a look,
15:46 Tali Rosca I don't want to come across as advertising it; I don't really have a horse in that race, but it *is* an interesting aspect of the Second Life environment.
15:46 Martini Discovolante does it work on the iPad?
15:46 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) it says android devices
15:47 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) on their site
15:47 Tali Rosca I honestly can't remember which specific clients it is on.
15:47 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) /me is reading about it excitedly
15:47 Martini Discovolante poop.
15:47 Duke (nitos.dezno) con una conexion minima de 4G...
15:47 Nitos Dezno Connect with minimal 4G ...
15:47 Martini Discovolante i already have Lumiya, for free. still would be interestign to see the difference.
15:47 Meora (menchor) Android
15:48 Ravelli Ormstein "over 50 FPS with a 512-meter draw distance"
15:48 Tali Rosca By all accounts, it really works, and the servers they use are *brutal*, allowing far greater graphics settings than most people will ever use on their own computer.
15:49 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) "OnLive has clocked the SL Go viewer at upwards of 200 fps set to Ultra with Maximum Render Distance, allowing people to participate in events, engage in combat games, and generally enjoy immersion in Second Life at a level never before possible on a mobile device."
15:49 Tali Rosca I have not tried it myself, though; only read about it (from several bloggers).
15:49 Ravelli Ormstein on PCs it should lower energy costs a lil bit
15:49 Larkylouz /me thinks she should research this!
15:50 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) /me thinks Larkylouz should research this as well!
15:50 Martini Discovolante /me adds it to her list of jazz to do
15:50 Tali Rosca That sounds like a home assignment.
15:51 Tali Rosca Research it and tell us next week :-)
15:51 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) This sounds pretty cool
15:52 Tali Rosca I don't think I have any other tidbits to throw in now.
15:52 Gronk Seriman I am excited about Firestorm DUI.
15:52 Meora (menchor) which was the ultimate April Fools joke
15:52 Gronk Seriman Dynamic User Interface.
15:53 Larkylouz So SL Go makes things faster. Can it help with low vid card issues?
15:53 Tali Rosca Now combine that with a working side dock where you can actually dock what you want, and you would have a good UI.
15:53 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) It is really important. there are truly too many drunken motorists using firestorm.
15:53 Mr. Snow (tehckisnow) oh.
15:53 Larkylouz /me thanks heaven for the Firestorm Support team
15:53 Tali Rosca Larky, yes, it essentially doesn't use your graphics card at all.
15:53 Larkylouz Wooohooo!
15:54 Tali Rosca (For those who missed it, the "DUI"; Dynamic User Interface, will allow you to have floating windows*outside* the main window).
15:55 Gronk Seriman I have been using two monitors for a long time. I have always wished I can pull all the little windows off of the viewer and onto the second monitor. Firestorm is working on that now.
15:55 Tali Rosca Which would be *really* convenient... yes, for dual monitor setups.
15:55 Ravelli Ormstein /me needs a second monitor now
15:55 Beccha Makes me want to buy a second monitor
15:56 Tali Rosca We're closing in on the hour, so any last question?
15:58 uɐɯɹǝʇǝd 31ɹǝʇǝd (peter13.peterman) maybe all this is a part of LL . maybe this forum is a LL forum ;)
15:58 Martini Discovolante ummm. nope.
15:58 Red Quixote what a goober
15:58 Martini Discovolante whispers: next question?
15:58 Martini Discovolante any other paranoic rantings tonight?
15:58 Red Quixote :)
15:58 Ravelli Ormstein he should now, since he proclaimed to have been LL employee
15:58 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) What are you smoking?
15:59 Ravelli Ormstein *know
15:59 Tali Rosca I was thinking the same, Rav.
15:59 Mentadent Peter feels like the Edgar Snowden of LL
15:59 Ravelli Ormstein :-)
15:59 Meora (menchor) lol
15:59 Martini Discovolante cause the bars are closed?
15:59 Mentadent hahaha
15:59 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) We have only his word that he has anything to with anything.
15:59 Tali Rosca If there are no questions, let us say this is it for today.