Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2013-09-22

14:59 Wordsmith Jarvinen 'Tis 3pm
15:00 Marion Questi Indeed it is
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen A question. We seek a question.
15:00 Marion Questi Let us begin.
15:00 Marion Questi Welcome everyone!
15:00 Marion Questi This is an "open mic" Q&A which we hold at this time every week. We, the Deans of Oxbridge, assemble to answer questions from the attendees about Oxbridge, it's mission and operation, or about SL in general.

Rather than introduce ourselves, you can find a list of all the Deans with summaries of their respective areas of responsibility, on the Oxbridge website: http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna_index.php
15:05 Ruth (moabite) Sorry
15:05 Tali Rosca None. An attachment remembers its last attachment spot.
15:06 Tali Rosca (You of course want the permissions right).
15:06 Wordsmith Jarvinen So wear it and adjust its location, then detach it.
15:06 Kalonia (discotraxx) I have permission to give away a non transfer/copy version, yes
15:06 Kalonia (discotraxx) and it's full perm
15:06 Tali Rosca And yes, alpha and underwater is treated differently. There is a *huge* batch of fixes in the pipeline for that.
15:06 Kalonia (discotraxx) and then if I were to give it to one of you and you attached it, it would be in roughly the same position on your bodies?
15:07 Wordsmith Jarvinen Do you have a good link on that, Dean Tali?
15:07 Marion Questi We use text here Mir GeminiOneX
15:07 Tali Rosca Actually, I think most of those are already released in the 3.6 line.
15:07 Wordsmith Jarvinen Since we capture the transcript, we use text.
15:08 Marion Questi Miss Crystal, your microphone is open..
15:08 Marion Questi Who has a question?
15:08 Ruth (moabite) has noted unusual delays when adding or removing alphas, whereas other clothing items 'rez' quickly
15:08 Marion Questi Where were we...?
15:09 Tali Rosca I don't know about delays; I was referring to having a slightly different look.
15:09 Ruth (moabite) Prolly cuz FS hasn't yet rolled in 3.6.2
15:10 Tali Rosca The 3.6.4: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.6.4.280083
15:10 Tali Rosca Bunches of variations on "with Deferred Pipeline/New Lighting enabled, alpha texture lighting does not match non-alpha lighting."
15:10 Friends of Caledon Oxbridge Donation Medallion Discotraxx Resident gave a generous donation to Friends of Caledon Oxbridge to help support classes, tutorials, & tier at Caledon's Oxbridge
15:10 Tali Rosca So it should be fixed in recent, rebased viewers.
15:11 Marion Questi You may ask, but it must be text.
15:11 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes, can you type a question in please?
15:12 Wordsmith Jarvinen That way the discussion will make sense to those reading the transcript later.
15:12 Georgiana Penberg Is the lecture hall voice enabled now?
15:13 Marion Questi The lecture hall is voice enabled in case any of the professors wish to use it.
15:13 Wordsmith Jarvinen It always has been voice enabled.
15:13 Georgiana Penberg Ah ok.
15:13 Wordsmith Jarvinen The outside parcel is not. The parcel by the Cafe is.
15:14 Georgiana Penberg I'm being called away. It is good to see you all. :)
15:14 Wordsmith Jarvinen tc, Miss Penberg
15:14 Ravelli Ormstein was nice to see you again, bye Miss Penberg
15:15 GeminiOneX Is there a place where informed students of SIMS can discuss theoretial aplications of perceptive devices and such?
15:15 GeminiOneX Like maybe a day and or time more than a place?
15:15 Marion Questi Have you seached the Groups?
15:16 Marion Questi Or are you looking for a venue?
15:16 GeminiOneX Like in the base search function of SL?
15:16 GeminiOneX Or local to this area?
15:16 Friends of Caledon Oxbridge Donation Medallion RedHeadedIrishGirl Brianna gave a generous donation to Friends of Caledon Oxbridge to help support classes, tutorials, & tier at Caledon's Oxbridge
15:16 GeminiOneX Because the search doesn't come up with mush:P
15:17 Tali Rosca What kind of devices do you mean?
15:17 Marion Questi Perhaps because it has nothing to return...:)
15:18 GeminiOneX Nuero realative ones like movement and touch to start:}
15:18 GeminiOneX Oh after localization [For some] of the 6 senses first of course
15:19 GeminiOneX I have coders in mind that I am going to hire, but i like to be informed
15:19 Wordsmith Jarvinen I seem to recall some things showing up in John Lester's blog (aka former Pathfinder Linden). http://becunningandfulloftricks.com/
15:19 GeminiOneX Super thanks
15:20 Marion Questi Well, I'm not aware of anyone in Caledon with those interests. Good luck.
15:20 Marion Questi Next quesion?
15:20 Wordsmith Jarvinen Patty Rangel also gave a talk at SLCC 2011 that's on YouTube.
15:20 Tali Rosca I have a feeling that such research is generally happening outside SL, and adopted into SL later.
15:21 Tali Rosca But with things like Oculus and Leap in the mainstream currently, there's some focus on different interface/IO.
15:21 Wordsmith Jarvinen This was research she was doing at Singularity University (NASA Ames / Google collaboration)
15:22 GeminiOneX You mean no one that will come ruunning like a fire on fire to my gateway to my local Unreal engine interpreter?
15:22 GeminiOneX I don't believe yu:}
15:22 GeminiOneX lol
15:22 GeminiOneX As I have 4 right now of the grandest sorts
15:22 GeminiOneX We shall see I gahter
15:23 Wordsmith Jarvinen Haptic extensions to virtual worlds are interesting.
15:23 GeminiOneX I have an expert on Opensim [Core coder] and one pro that works with the Havok engine-As I have my emotiv neuro headset and SDK and a load of people that want to develop with me
15:24 GeminiOneX I thought so too, but I am saving it up to flash matrix my son
15:24 GeminiOneX Sees easier in the long run, for both of us
15:24 Marion Questi Thanks for the sales pitch, Mr Gemini, but we are moving on to other topics.
15:24 Ruth (moabite) tyakes another drink from her Google glass.
15:24 GeminiOneX Sales pitch?
15:25 Marion Questi Next question?
15:25 GeminiOneX I just came to see if you knew something I didn't is all
15:25 GeminiOneX I have another
15:26 GeminiOneX What will be the fate of man considering that genocide is mearly 2 decades away? I think that this isn't a sales pitch, but a new order we are going to embrace is all
15:26 Wordsmith Jarvinen I'm not away of any regular such discussions inworld.
15:26 GeminiOneX Ok, I will get my bridge up then and come back, as we are looking to make it rain, so theres a fun addition
15:27 GeminiOneX Thanks you
15:27 Wordsmith Jarvinen A bit more philosophical than can be handled in an hour ... or even two.
15:27 Tali Rosca Nonsense aside, the concept of using alternate IO is, indeed, both interesting and rather topical currently.
15:27 Ravelli Ormstein perhaps someone else has a question?
15:28 Tali Rosca is personally poking at a Leap, to see just what it can be set up to control.
15:29 Wordsmith Jarvinen Definitely some interest technology starting to arrive.
15:29 Wordsmith Jarvinen *interesting
15:30 Ravelli Ormstein btw, at Kickstarter they offer an upcoming device to scan objects to 3D with a smartphone: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/occipital/structure-sensor-capture-the-world-in-3d
15:31 Larkylouz I didn't understand a word of what he said. Is he actually working on bringing smell and taste and feel of the wind to SL or OpenSim?
15:31 Ruth (moabite) smells the wind
15:31 Tali Rosca He was just trying to see how long he could pull us around with impressive-sounding nonsense.
15:31 Tali Rosca We tried to pull the talk into a somewhat relevant direction.
15:31 Larkylouz ah. You should know htat he asked me in IM, first.
15:31 Larkylouz :^)
15:32 alinamo ahh ok
15:32 Tali Rosca That, or he is *way* ahead of all current projects and research.
15:32 alinamo si
15:32 Wordsmith Jarvinen He might have had some interest in knowing if we knew of a discussion group, but was asking that in jargon.
15:33 Brianna Nitely (redheadedirishgirl.brianna) raises hand - I know I've mentioned this before, but then was out of SL for a while. Is it possible to create a Caledon Oxbridge Student Socialization channel for students to use to meet and greet, rather than tying up the University channel? To be monitored of course...
15:33 Tali Rosca Claiming to have a coder lined up for interfacing the opensim Havok engine neurally makes me... skeptical.
15:33 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Likewise
15:34 shazunn *puts hand up in the air
15:34 Ravelli Ormstein i think we had a group like that in the past... *tries to remember*
15:34 Tali Rosca ...in no little part because OpenSim doesn't use Havok...
15:34 shazunn one question
15:34 Wordsmith Jarvinen Part of his reference was to a neuro-headset made by Emotiv http://www.emotiv.com/
15:34 Ruth (moabite) 'twas once a Caledon newcomers' group
15:34 Brianna Nitely (redheadedirishgirl.brianna) Well, if there isn't one, I'm willing to pay the $100L to create one, but would want Oxbridge guidelines for use, so there aren't booty calls put out on it.
15:34 Ravelli Ormstein thank you Miss Ruth!
15:35 shazunn whispers if us(people that gets an eduacation) Do we graduate??
15:35 Ravelli Ormstein Miss Nitely, best is to contact Martini Discovolante and talk to her about it
15:35 Tali Rosca I don't know about a social group... Of course, it's easy enough *technically* to create it.
15:35 Brianna Nitely (redheadedirishgirl.brianna) *nods*
15:35 Tali Rosca But do we need it? Or should people rather find more dedicated social groups?
15:36 Wordsmith Jarvinen And if you are interest in teaching classes, the pursue that with me. ;)
15:36 Ravelli Ormstein mainting it a long time must be ensures, otherwise there will be one more dead group.
15:36 Brianna Nitely (redheadedirishgirl.brianna) working that in to my RL sked.
15:36 Brianna Nitely (redheadedirishgirl.brianna) I'm still interested, Dean Jarvinen :-)
15:36 Ravelli Ormstein *maintaining
15:36 shazunn *shazunn is more confused then trying to play candy crush saga
15:36 Wordsmith Jarvinen We have no formal graduation. What one obtains are usable skills.
15:36 Brianna Nitely (redheadedirishgirl.brianna) I think it might help new students, who come into SL and wonder "what the heck am I doing here?" until they find groups/niches.
15:37 Marion Questi As I recall, the newcomers group was intended to help ease people into Caledon society but it only worked because of the personal involvement of the founder. As a chat group, it was not much nelp. I think chatting int he main ISC group is preferable.
15:37 Wordsmith Jarvinen A steampunk review would still be nice to have in the lineup.
15:37 Brianna Nitely (redheadedirishgirl.brianna) Yes, Dean, will incorporate that :-)
15:38 Kalonia (discotraxx) ((I've gtg... thanks for the advice, deans))
15:38 Ravelli Ormstein Greetings Mr Jinx, feel free to take a seat
15:39 Wordsmith Jarvinen It does take some active moderation to make a social chat group work. Without that it can easily head in undesirable directions or bullying.
15:39 shazunn thanks for advice
15:39 Wordsmith Jarvinen tc, Miss Kalonia.
15:40 shazunn OMG!!!
15:40 Marion Questi Who has a question for the Deans?
15:40 shazunn MISSING
15:40 shazunn I'M NOT MISING THIS MEETING
15:40 Marion Questi I beg your pardon, Miss Shazunn?
15:40 Wordsmith Jarvinen NCI had and NCI Chat group. When the founder of that left and killed it in a huff, they created another called NCI Spamm, which doesn't allow actual spam.
15:41 shazunn sorry i missed the last one and i don't want to miss it again
15:41 Ruth (moabite) What, exactly, would an active moderator do to produce moderation?
15:41 shazunn by the way i do have to leave at 4
15:41 Wordsmith Jarvinen We do put the transcripts online. (My thanks to Dean Ormstein for capturing the last one while I was traveling)
15:42 Marion Questi We seem to have too much moderation...and not enough questions...:)
15:42 Tali Rosca Most groups tend to need some focus to be useful.
15:42 shazunn =(
15:42 Ruth (moabite) ... but to be fun? ...
15:43 Ravelli Ormstein not everything in SL is fun :-)
15:43 Wordsmith Jarvinen An occasional gentle reminder to steer the focus, and a harder hand to keep it from ad spam and begging for $Ls.
15:43 shazunn *gasp =(
15:43 Tali Rosca It rather depends on your definition of fun, I guess. Free-for-all tends to degenerate very fast.
15:44 Wordsmith Jarvinen Some groups need reminders to argue about topics and not engage in personal attacks.
15:44 Ruth (moabite) Well, specifically, with a free-to-join group, if an officer expels someont, can they stay expelled?
15:44 Tali Rosca I don't know. Personally, I am highly skeptical, seeing the general conversation by new people arriving in Oxbridge.
15:45 Larkylouz Might degenerate to a lot of silliiness. I've seen that happen in COU chat a number of times; and COU is moderated as often as folks canpop in to do so.
15:45 Wordsmith Jarvinen At the moment no. But a ban capability is in the works.
15:45 Tali Rosca As for banning somebody permanently from a group, no, not currently, though there is work going on on that right now.
15:46 Tali Rosca COU is one of the few "general free for all" groups I've ever seen work.
15:46 shazunn ok since i've been here for a month how do we lock houses and ban people from it
15:46 Tali Rosca Sorry, not COU.
15:46 Tali Rosca ISC, I meant.
15:47 Tali Rosca I'd say it's because the people there are fairly invested in Caledon; you have a reputation to uphold amongst your neighbours, and a decent grasp on how SL and Caledon works.
15:47 Ravelli Ormstein there are several ways to block visitors from your parcel. one work with parcel settings in the ABOUT LAND window, other use scripts/bots.
15:47 Wordsmith Jarvinen Baker Linden is the one working on a group ban capability.
15:47 Marion Questi There are door script available to lock your house...but they do not really supply any security.
15:48 Marion Questi And there are security devices which will patrol a parcel...but they are illegal here in Caledon.
15:49 Wordsmith Jarvinen And parcel bans against the general populace are against the covenant in Caledon.
15:49 Tali Rosca I fear that there would be no such investment in a "free for all newcomer" group, so it would be prone to degenerating.
15:49 Wordsmith Jarvinen On the mainland, however, ... civility is not required.
15:49 Ravelli Ormstein best i've seen, or better 'most effective on keeping me away', was a swarm of bees which attacked me
15:50 Marion Questi We have about 10 minutes left. Time for another couple questions. Anyone?
15:53 Marion Questi No more questions at all?
15:54 Friends of Caledon Oxbridge Donation Medallion Larkylouz Resident gave a generous donation to Friends of Caledon Oxbridge to help support classes, tutorials, & tier at Caledon's Oxbridge
15:54 Wordsmith Jarvinen In terms of virtual communities, you might look at Howard Rheingold's work. http://www.rheingold.com/vc/book/
15:54 Brianna Nitely (redheadedirishgirl.brianna) Not unless you can give me Caledon demographics, such as percentage from US, Europe, Asia, etc.. so I could try to find a class time that works for most.
15:54 Tali Rosca Gut feeling. 70-30.
15:55 Larkylouz What will you be teaching, Miss Nitely?
15:55 Tali Rosca Between US and "other":
15:55 Tali Rosca Nothing to back it up, though.
15:56 Skullphern Hm
15:56 Skullphern So thats what this is
15:56 Skullphern Interesting
15:56 Brianna Nitely (redheadedirishgirl.brianna) As I've noticed, in most groups that I'm in, most events are convenient for US, but not elsewhere, and I'm not sure if that's because other times don't work for the presenter, or if other times were tried, but lacked attendance. and I don't mean just here in Caledon.
15:56 Tali Rosca -And a tendency for the Euro-crowd to sort of having given up on being part of the Caledonian schedule.
15:56 Wordsmith Jarvinen Tali, are you collecting stats with your "greeter" (which greeted me again today)
15:56 Tali Rosca I am not collecting currently, but I could easily do so.
15:57 Wordsmith Jarvinen That would be interesting.
15:57 Skullphern Hm
15:58 Skullphern Only one question that I can think of
15:58 Skullphern but its very irrelivant
15:59 Marion Questi As long as it pertains to SL, you may ask.
15:59 Marion Questi But we are nearly out of time...
15:59 Tali Rosca For time slots, in the weekend the SL noon tends to work well.
16:00 Tali Rosca It's late enough that Americans are up, and early enough that it's still evening (and not night) in Europe.
16:00 Tali Rosca On workdays... all bets are off, really.
16:00 Marion Questi And we are adjourned...:)
16:00 Marion Questi Thank you all for your participation.
16:00 Larkylouz Thank you, Deans.
16:01 Steadman Kondor thank you all!
16:01 Brianna Nitely (redheadedirishgirl.brianna) Thank you, Deans
16:01 Ravelli Ormstein thank you all for coming!
16:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thank you all.