Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2013-08-11

15:01 Marion Questi Let us begin.
15:01 Marion Questi Welcome everyone.
15:01 Marion Questi This is an "open mic" Q&A which we hold at this time every week. We, the Deans of Oxbridge, assemble to answer questions from the attendees about Oxbridge, it's mission and operation, or about SL in general.

On the Oxbridge website you can find a list of all the Deans with summaries of their respective areas of responsibility, : http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna_index.php
15:01 Marion Questi Who would like to ask the first question?
15:03 Marion Questi Anyone at all?
15:03 Johann Reisende (reisende04) maybe this is an old question, but i have been wondering if LL attend AR´s from premium accounts better than from basic?
15:04 Marion Questi I have never suspected that they did anything like that.
15:04 Martini Discovolante we really have no way of knowing... actions based on ARs are not shared.
15:04 Marion Questi What is your experience, Mr Reisende?
15:04 Ravelli Ormstein a wide field of rumors that is...
15:04 Kamilah Hauptmann A few basic principles on filing ARs:
15:04 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) LArgely dubious rumors..
15:05 Johann Reisende (reisende04) not much based on AR´s I havent seen any action taken
15:05 Kamilah Hauptmann Don't engage with the recipient beyond a line or two. A quick 'put the gun away', and if they don't use the land tools available to you and the /block utilities.
15:05 Ravelli Ormstein usually you get only one automatically generated email, instantly after you sent the AR, but usually no further emails
15:05 Kamilah Hauptmann Getting into a big fight looks on the moderator's end to be a personal dispute.
15:05 Johann Reisende (reisende04) but i once make a question about land and they never attended my inquiry until i turned Premium
15:06 Ravelli Ormstein a question about land by filling an AR?
15:06 Ilyara Tardis Welcome to capitalism.
15:06 Johann Reisende (reisende04) not really, but that made me wonder if AR´s coming from basic accounts have same treatment
15:07 Tali Rosca I would *think* that the ARs are primarily filtered automatically.
15:07 Tali Rosca By topic and severity.
15:07 Wordsmith Jarvinen Premium does provide more options for interactions. Questions are different than ARs, however.
15:07 Johann Reisende (reisende04) i see
15:07 Tali Rosca But LL generally plays the whole AR procedure pretty close to the chest.
15:08 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) There is also a matter of backlog.
15:08 Marion Questi Usually only the miscreant is aware of any action taken on an AR.
15:08 Ravelli Ormstein hm, i'm with a basic account since the beginning, and LL sometimes reacted within 15 minutes if there was a serious problem. but not always...
15:09 Johann Reisende (reisende04) How Really LL investigate incidents?
15:09 Ravelli Ormstein i guess the premium account is an advantage for the support tickets
15:09 Marion Questi I think the bottom line here, Mr Reisende is that we are not LIndens...and we have no inside information about LL's internal procedures.
15:10 Johann Reisende (reisende04) i see
15:11 Tali Rosca It is my feeling that LL comes down pretty hard and fast on illegal issues, and let general nuisances accumulate statistics.
15:11 Tali Rosca No matter who reports.
15:11 Marion Questi Some sort of triage process makes perfect sense.
15:12 Kira Snowdance (snowdance) I've seen a response within 5 minutes to adult content on a general sim
15:12 Marion Questi But I speculate.....let us move along. Next question?
15:15 Ravelli Ormstein a phant!
15:15 Martini Discovolante lol-- i jut cammed over ans saw the Bigger Elephant :D
15:15 Wordsmith Jarvinen Elephant ...... in the room?
15:15 Meora (menchor) where?
15:17 Tali Rosca I can't even really throw in "random info about server updates", because things have been quiet.
15:18 Kira Snowdance (snowdance) I have a question about Caledon itself, if there is time
15:18 Tali Rosca We are not exactly overloaded :-)
15:18 Wordsmith Jarvinen Perfectly Germane question.
15:18 Marion Questi Go ahead Miss Snodance.
15:19 Kira Snowdance (snowdance) Well, earlier today I was reading about the land covenant. It says that builds must be in theme and that modern things should not be visible from the outside. Does this mean that it is ok to start a business here that features modern or otherwise out of theme items, so long as the building itself is Victorian?
15:20 Kamilah Hauptmann grins.
15:20 Martini Discovolante if you seel modern things, what kind of sales do you expect in a victorian nation?
15:21 Martini Discovolante seel=sell
15:21 Wordsmith Jarvinen The covenant prevents the unsightly. However, given a nation of explorers in both space and time.....
15:22 Ravelli Ormstein the quote from the covenant: "Caledon has a 19th century Victorian theme. Structures are to be Victorian, or perhaps a thatch roof house, old Tudor, castle, Celtic cottage, or maybe a hobbity hole or treehouse. That sort of thing. Inside your home or shop decorate as you like. Try not to let modern stuff be glaringly obvious from the outside. An occasional small Japanese gazebo or that sort of not-exactly-theme kind of thing is okay. Magic, steampunk, and fantasy items are encouraged!"
15:22 Kamilah Hauptmann If I may field part o fthat.
15:22 Tali Rosca By the letter, I think you can, though I guess Her Lyonesse can clarify that. By the spirit... well, as Martini alludes to, wouldn't somewhere else than Caledon be a better place?
15:23 Kamilah Hauptmann I might be the original idiot builder in Caledon trying out all sorts of ill advised structures.
15:23 Marion Questi I suspect the Guv might not object too much...(he tends to be fairly liberal in his enterpretation fo the covenant) but as Dean Discovolante points out, it may not be the wisest business decision.
15:23 Martini Discovolante useCaledon as you quiet and encouraging place to create-- and sell where your audience is!
15:24 Kamilah Hauptmann Selling modern things. I suggest the outward building as has been suggested, look 'arguably' in some sort of theme from basically the time period involved, there are even a bit of dieselpunk 1940s retrofuture scattered about.
15:25 Kamilah Hauptmann The makers of an old classic video game that involved choppers riding alongside hovercars put it best. "We weren't aiming for any particular tech level. Everything had to be cool. Very cool."
15:25 Tali Rosca Given that creators often specialize in a type of creations rather than a time, I can see a mix, with modern items scattered between "in theme" items.
15:25 Kamilah Hauptmann Ibn our case, some sort of non-star trek usually does fine. We have Time Lords, we have robots, we have exorers.
15:26 Kamilah Hauptmann Explorers.
15:26 Marion Questi Have we answered your question, Miss Snowdance?
15:26 Tali Rosca But a shop specifically with hip-hop street clothes would probably feel out of place.
15:26 Kamilah Hauptmann Victorians were notorious for sending armies all over the world to bring back exotic things and teas and nicknacks. They were huge Egyptia/Afrian/Asian almost fetishists.
15:26 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Tinies...
15:27 Kira Snowdance (snowdance) Yes, and thank you
15:27 Tali Rosca I think some would take offense at you selling tinies :-P
15:27 Kamilah Hauptmann So by all means, your Arabian pavilion building, your Japanese tea house.
15:27 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Victorian builts lots of Follies..
15:28 Marion Questi Who has another question for us?
15:28 Kamilah Hauptmann More important would be matters of scale. The thing that people ge thte most excited about is someone building a huge building that rums right up the the property line in what's generally a pastoral area.
15:28 Kamilah Hauptmann Or a wooded cottage amidst factories. :)
15:29 Kamilah Hauptmann When buying a parcel, look around the neighbourhood and try to... match more or less what's already there.
15:29 Kira Snowdance (snowdance) That sort of thing is why I was thinking of Caledon, there is more protection against wild theme changes
15:29 Kamilah Hauptmann steps down from teh soapbox, hope that's helpful
15:29 Martini Discovolante each region here has a different "feel"
15:30 Tali Rosca Caledon is quite fanciful, though, so a lot of things go.
15:30 Kamilah Hauptmann Oh, and the 'management' has a bias toward avant guard and is more prone to tap a shoulder gently than to have a public freakout.
15:30 Wordsmith Jarvinen No one, however, is likely to look in a store and complain that a pair of shoes is not "Victorian".
15:31 Kamilah Hauptmann Well, someone might look in a store and complain, but the management will ignore them. And possibly make fun of the complaint privately.
15:32 Kamilah Hauptmann :)
15:32 Wordsmith Jarvinen Indeed.
15:32 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Rather likely :-)
15:33 Tali Rosca Just to make it clear, by the way, the Oxbridge deans are *not* management in this regard.
15:33 Wordsmith Jarvinen Caledon is "loosely" Victorian, which is not quite the same as having loose Victorians.
15:34 Larkylouz heee
15:34 Ravelli Ormstein :-)
15:34 Wordsmith Jarvinen But, there is that also.
15:34 Tali Rosca And the trolley is loose.
15:34 Marion Questi The sole author and interpreter of the Covenant is the Guv....but he is a benevolent ruler...:)
15:34 Larkylouz Loose and running amok, I might add.
15:35 Kamilah Hauptmann <--- management, our position is more or less maximum enjoyment for most people, within loose guidelines. As hands off as we can be.
15:35 Wordsmith Jarvinen Aye, A place where one is not able to assume that trolleys will stay on their tracks.
15:35 Kamilah Hauptmann <--- not the guv, but has hands in just about everything.
15:36 Wordsmith Jarvinen Caledon's most stringently enforced covenant one might say is ... civility.
15:36 Marion Questi Hear, hear!
15:36 Ravelli Ormstein and cake
15:36 Wordsmith Jarvinen And even that is subject to good natured playfulness.
15:36 Kamilah Hauptmann needs to run. :)
15:37 Wordsmith Jarvinen Journey well, Vicerine.
15:37 Ravelli Ormstein was nice to have you here!
15:37 Kamilah Hauptmann Take care, all. :)
15:37 Martini Discovolante see you soon!
15:37 Ravelli Ormstein perhaps we should offer her a seat next time? :-)
15:38 Marion Questi I'm not sure she *can* sit in that hoop skirt.
15:38 Tali Rosca If she even *can* sit down, in those gowns.
15:38 Ravelli Ormstein hehe
15:38 Tali Rosca laughs. "I was typing at the same time."
15:39 Marion Questi grins
15:39 Ravelli Ormstein there was one question in the last Q&As...
15:39 Ravelli Ormstein it came a few times
15:40 Ravelli Ormstein about Server Side Appearance (aka Server Side Baking)
15:41 Ravelli Ormstein so far i see it is still not released, and LL will update for the baking server next week
15:42 Tali Rosca I had actually expected it to be out by now. There's no hold-up as such, but I guess it's simply a matter of prioritizing the manpower internally in LL, to finalize the last details and flip the switches.
15:42 Wordsmith Jarvinen Still just on Le Tigre and Magnum release candidate sims, I believe.
15:42 Ravelli Ormstein so we still have to wait... ok
15:42 Kira Snowdance (snowdance) Are there any other big changes looming?
15:42 Meora (menchor) Its nice something isn't being rushed out with bugs
15:43 Wordsmith Jarvinen Ability to ban miscreants from chat groups is being worked on.
15:43 Tali Rosca Nothing massive, to my knowledge, but a lot of updates and fixes are queued up in the various viewer projects.
15:43 Tali Rosca Group chat management and the "interest list" system are probably the most visible changed upcoming.
15:44 Tali Rosca There's also an update to the HTTP connections, which may not have much impact for most, but help some a lot.
15:44 Wordsmith Jarvinen Inara Pey has been good at keeping up on things. http://modemworld.wordpress.com/2013/08/10/sl-projects-update-week-32-3-all-things-viewer-ssa-http-and-more/
15:45 Tali Rosca But between the 5 different project viewers, there's a small novel of bug fixes and updates waiting.
15:46 Tali Rosca With any luck, they should be merged one per week now, so we'll get a barrage of updated over the next month.
15:47 Wordsmith Jarvinen As I recall there's a vivox update in the works.... Sound stream.
15:47 Tali Rosca I actually think that one was merged to release last week.
15:47 Larkylouz So do I understand from that that if I have the LL viewer and then update FS, it will overwrite LL?
15:48 Tali Rosca No, the Firestorm viewer is an entirely separate program.
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15:49 Tali Rosca There is some unknown black magic about how the different LL project viewers overwrite each other, but that's not an issue unless you have specifically chosen to download and use a project viewer.
15:49 Larkylouz I've got ralane
15:49 Larkylouz However, there is a problem in installing multiple RC viewer under windows, whereby the last location used to install a viewer is recorded by the installer (presumably as a registry setting), and the auto-updater will automatically use that location to install any update. So, if you manually install “Release Candidate B” into its own folder, and then receive an update for “Release Candidate A” (already installed on your PC) via the auto-updater, it will be installed into the folder containing “Release Candidate B”, overwriting it. This may even happen if the auto-updater is “disabled” within viewer preferences (see here for notes on how to avoid this).
15:49 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thanks, Miss Larky.
15:51 Tali Rosca They are changing that system, though. I don't think anybody are entirely clear on just how the overwrite works *right* now.
15:51 Tali Rosca But again, that is only an issue with the dedicated project/release candidate viewers.
15:51 Tali Rosca It's not something the normal user sees.
15:51 Ravelli Ormstein usually we install Firestorm into its own and separate folder, so there should not interfere anything
15:51 Marion Questi We have about another 10 minutes left...time for one or two more questions. Anyone?
15:52 Meora (menchor) is there any way that Oxbridge could qualify for the educational/not-for-profit discount?
15:52 Martini Discovolante nope
15:53 Tali Rosca To put is short.
15:53 Martini Discovolante not that we have any "profit"!
15:53 Kira Snowdance (snowdance) It would have to be registered as a 501c3, no?
15:53 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes, and file Form 990's etc.
15:53 Ravelli Ormstein perhaps if LL excepts non-US organizations...
15:55 Wordsmith Jarvinen And while we manage Oxbridge, the sim itself is owned by the Governor and is part of Caledon, which is not nonprofit.
15:57 Marion Questi A final question? Anyone?
15:58 Martini Discovolante zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzs
15:59 Kira Snowdance (snowdance) :)
15:59 Ravelli Ormstein pokes Martini
15:59 Martini Discovolante ksnork!!!wha?!
16:00 Ravelli Ormstein looks to the clock
16:00 Larkylouz Thank you, Deans.
16:00 kat (ekaterin) Thanks. :)
16:00 Martini Discovolante thank sot all of you!
16:00 Kira Snowdance (snowdance) thanks
16:00 Meora (menchor) thank you
16:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thanks you all for coming (rather boring otherwise)
16:00 Marion Questi Thank you all for coming!
16:00 Tali Rosca That was one of the quieter QAs.
16:01 Ravelli Ormstein thank you all too for being here and part of Oxbridge