| 15:01 |
Marion Questi |
Good evening everyone. Let us begin. |
| 15:01 |
Marion Questi |
This is an "open mic" Q&A which we hold at this time every week. We, the Deans of Oxbridge, assemble to answer questions from the attendees about Oxbridge, it's mission and operation, or about SL in general. |
| 15:01 |
Tali Rosca |
Or relogged to clear. |
| 15:01 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
she might be relogging to de-gorillify |
| 15:01 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I should steal her chair. |
| 15:01 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
it looks comfier |
| 15:01 |
Marion Questi |
On the Oxbridge website you can find a list of all the Deans with summaries of their respective areas of responsibility, : http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna_index.php |
| 15:02 |
Marion Questi |
Who would like to ask the first question? |
| 15:02 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Welcome to Q&A With the Deans. This is the game show where you try to embarass the deans with a question we don't know the answer to :) |
| 15:02 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
on the Itchy and Scratchy CD-ROM, is it possible to escape the dungeon *without* the wizard key? |
| 15:03 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
that depends on the wizard key |
| 15:03 |
Marion Questi |
Probably not but why don't you take a week or so to try? |
| 15:03 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Yes. Use CTRL ALT F2 while clicking on the blue stalagtite. |
| 15:03 |
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Larkylouz raises her hand. Is anyone aware of significant lag in IMs - like several hours? |
| 15:03 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
between logins? |
| 15:03 |
Ista (istadychalion) |
Not yet. |
| 15:04 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
there's a bug where offline IMs don't come through unless you relog or mute something. |
| 15:04 |
Tali Rosca |
Bonus point for Ista's answer :-P |
| 15:04 |
Marion Questi |
We had some difficulties earlier to day with a group chat. |
| 15:04 |
Tali Rosca |
Offlines can get delayed, yes. Online... I havent' seen *that* bad lag, though sometimes, it doesn't register you as online, and sends the IM through the offline system instead. |
| 15:05 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
I think those conference IMs are just...a trainwreck |
| 15:05 |
Marion Questi |
They have always worked for me in the past... |
| 15:05 |
Tali Rosca |
The ad-hoc multi-person chats have always been dodgy for me. |
| 15:06 |
Ista (istadychalion) |
Or spammy |
| 15:06 |
Tali Rosca |
It's, at best, hard to start them, they often fail on the first couple of attempts. |
| 15:06 |
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Larkylouz groans. |
| 15:06 |
Tali Rosca |
That's my experience, at least. |
| 15:06 |
Marion Questi |
I'm guessing LL is working on some hardware some where . This too shall pass. |
| 15:07 |
Larkylouz |
That's my next question. What recourse do I have if I signed up for a singer's spam list, changed my mind, found her list manager place didn't have an unsub feature that I could find and blocking the messages doesn't help. Oh, and they go to Nearby Chat. |
| 15:07 |
Tali Rosca |
But as for normal IMs being delayed that much, without going to offline; no, I've not seen that. |
| 15:07 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Nothing on the Grid Status about inworld chat. |
| 15:07 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Contact the singer and ask politely to be removed from the list. If that fails, file an AR on her for spam. |
| 15:07 |
Larkylouz |
Just curious; I had someone complain today. |
| 15:08 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
they go to nearby chat? |
| 15:08 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
that sounds like it's coming from an attachment |
| 15:08 |
Marion Questi |
Going to nearby chat is not an easy trick. The sending object has to be in the same sim as I recall.. |
| 15:08 |
Tali Rosca |
An object IM'ing you goes to what looks like your "nearby" |
| 15:08 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Not always... |
| 15:08 |
Marion Questi |
Even with in talking distance. |
| 15:09 |
Larkylouz |
She's mad at me because I did call her list 'spam'. Probably not my most saintly moment. |
| 15:09 |
Tali Rosca |
Since you cannot have an IM chat with an object. |
| 15:09 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
oh, that'd be it probably Tali. |
| 15:09 |
Larkylouz |
Maybe it just 'looks' like NC. |
| 15:09 |
Tali Rosca |
You *should* be able to find the object and mute it. |
| 15:09 |
kskantebet |
sup guys |
| 15:09 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
I had a spam object lock onto me from some sim and filling my bearby chat with blank lines until I managed to block it. |
| 15:09 |
kskantebet |
whats going on here? |
| 15:09 |
Tali Rosca |
Just remember that any interaction with it after that unmutes it. |
| 15:09 |
Carl Metropolitan |
This is a Question and Answer session with the deans of Oxbridge |
| 15:09 |
Martini Discovolante |
are you wearing it by any chance, Laarky>? |
| 15:10 |
kskantebet |
im trying to do a school project about real cities vs role playing, and was wondering what this was all about |
| 15:10 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
This is a Question and Answer session for Oxbridge (here). |
| 15:10 |
kskantebet |
cool beans |
| 15:10 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
Mr kskantebet, feel free to take a seat on the benches |
| 15:10 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Feel free to have a seat and listen in. |
| 15:10 |
Marion Questi |
You are welcome to have a seat and stay MR kskantebet |
| 15:10 |
Larkylouz |
I don't think so, Dean Martini. I check my appearances tab regularly. |
| 15:11 |
Martini Discovolante |
cause that would be mean :) |
| 15:11 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
And you can learn more about Oxbridge at http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/ |
| 15:12 |
kskantebet |
okay, how does th architecture and events here promote roleplaying on Caledon? |
| 15:12 |
kskantebet |
Can I get some specific examples? |
| 15:12 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I can give you a few. |
| 15:13 |
Carl Metropolitan |
The Blue Mermaid in Caledon-on-Sea is a burlesque style dance club that has a weekly event where people dance and flirt and wear burlesqe attire. |
| 15:13 |
Marion Questi |
Role playing in Caledon revolves around Victorian manners. We model that in our interactions with newcomers. |
| 15:14 |
Martini Discovolante |
do you mean here in Oxbridge specifically? or all over caledon? |
| 15:14 |
Carl Metropolitan |
The Iron Cloud is a floating steampunk airship base where the Crimson Pirates are based and where there is a fair amount of flying based RP (with vehicles) going on. |
| 15:14 |
Tali Rosca |
Caledon is less "roleplaying" than many areas, though, and more a common appreciation of some values and aesthetics. |
| 15:14 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
And, the architecture here is of a traditional Victorian university. |
| 15:14 |
Marion Questi |
I thought he was referring to the architecture her in Oxbridge... |
| 15:15 |
Martini Discovolante |
me too, so i asked for clarification. |
| 15:15 |
Carl Metropolitan |
There are also a number of stores selling clothing, furniture, houses, etc that are appropriate to the roleplaying aspects of Caledon. |
| 15:15 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Caledon is a "light roleplay" estate. So I can wear a modern day mesh suit and no one blinks an eye, either. |
| 15:16 |
kskantebet |
thank you guys very much for the help, its greatly appreciated |
| 15:16 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
what are the odds of him copy/pasting that into his school project? |
| 15:16 |
Marion Questi |
A happy customer...Next question? :) |
| 15:17 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I'm cool with that. |
| 15:17 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Can we help anyone else with their homework? |
| 15:17 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
can one of you do the statistical analysis for my masters project plzthnx? ;-) |
| 15:17 |
Carl Metropolitan |
(I spent a few hours in email helping an MBA student from a university in turkey with advice and editing on a survey he or she wanted to conduct here) |
| 15:17 |
Tali Rosca |
I can, but you may not like the result. |
| 15:18 |
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Larkylouz ponders the efficacy of shooting a spitwad. |
| 15:18 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
:P |
| 15:18 |
55s ETC (55aaa.danick) |
how is the server side baking thg going....probly be a busy week.... |
| 15:18 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
that'll be hitting in the next rollout I think |
| 15:18 |
Tali Rosca |
Supposedly, it starts tomorrow. |
| 15:18 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
At least there's a good probability of what Tali said. |
| 15:18 |
Tali Rosca |
It's already in the sim code. |
| 15:18 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
ooh |
| 15:18 |
Tali Rosca |
It's a matter of flipping the switches. |
| 15:18 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
exciting times |
| 15:18 |
Larkylouz |
We shan't have anything to blame for problems once it finally comes! |
| 15:19 |
Tali Rosca |
As I have heard it, they will start with the usual RC channels. |
| 15:19 |
Tali Rosca |
And if those work, flip more and more switches across the grid. |
| 15:19 |
55s ETC (55aaa.danick) |
im reading that there may be ati gpu card issues ... |
| 15:19 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
And let the sunshine. |
| 15:19 |
Tali Rosca |
I can pretty much guarantee you that that is untrue; about the ATI issues. |
| 15:20 |
Tali Rosca |
The whole point is that the texture work will be done serverside. |
| 15:20 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I hope firestorm supports it soon. I tried the new LL browser with the server side baking and it crashed in less than a minute each time I logged in. |
| 15:20 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
i can't imagine that issue |
| 15:20 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
there are issues with ATI cards though in general with SL |
| 15:20 |
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Sauce Sorrowman speaks from experience |
| 15:20 |
Tali Rosca |
So your graphics card sees it as just a completely normal texture, like on a prim. |
| 15:20 |
Tali Rosca |
Whether *those* work is than another matter, as Sauce points out :-S |
| 15:21 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
And Firestorm should support SSB. It was materials that I thought was lagging a bit. |
| 15:21 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
should be easier on client side with server side baking |
| 15:21 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
the ATI issue just needs a graphics card driver update to fix |
| 15:21 |
Tali Rosca |
"Just" |
| 15:21 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
which is easier said than done for certain laptops. I was seeing hot pink textures on most prims for quite some time. |
| 15:21 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
There were ways around that last other than an update. |
| 15:22 |
Martini Discovolante |
this is wearisome--if i crash again i shall not be back |
| 15:22 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Ouch. |
| 15:22 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Are you using the latest LL client, Martini? |
| 15:22 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
there was a debug setting, but it still impacted on performance |
| 15:22 |
Martini Discovolante |
yes. |
| 15:22 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I can't stay connected in it. |
| 15:22 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I'm back to firestorm |
| 15:22 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Nods.... |
| 15:22 |
Martini Discovolante |
i will not use firestorm. |
| 15:22 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
i'm having no issues apart from the usual. |
| 15:23 |
55s ETC (55aaa.danick) |
is the Linden viewer not up and running? |
| 15:23 |
Carl Metropolitan |
For at least two of us, it's not very stable. |
| 15:23 |
Larkylouz |
I have to keep my graphics pretty low in the LL viewer, or I crash. Basic shaders is part of the problem. Those top 4 checkboxes can't all be turned on at once. |
| 15:23 |
Martini Discovolante |
it has been fine since installation. |
| 15:23 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I'm using 278007 dated 27 June. |
| 15:23 |
55s ETC (55aaa.danick) |
could be that ati issue |
| 15:24 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Oh. Maybe your internet? |
| 15:24 |
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Tali Rosca is on 278007 as well. |
| 15:24 |
Larkylouz |
Second Life 3.6.1 (278007) Jun 27 2013 12:41:07 (Second Life Release) |
| 15:24 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Who knows. There are so many things that can go wrong, I'm amazed SL work as well as it does. |
| 15:24 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
Larkylouz, that is pity, you don't see all of Caledon's beauty. |
| 15:24 |
Larkylouz |
Dean Ormstein, I have been going to FS whenI do photograpy. I am happy to be here at all! |
| 15:25 |
Samsara Timeless |
I have a problem with the SL viewer. My cam is constantly fixed looking towards my Av and will not follow it... I've had this problem since last week and cannot resolve it.. I'm using firestorm at present |
| 15:25 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
i understand that, I'm on that side right now too. but not always. |
| 15:25 |
Tali Rosca |
Martini, Kokua seems to have jostled back into gear, so you could try that if you want an alternate viewer. That said, all viewers use pretty much all the same base code. |
| 15:25 |
55s ETC (55aaa.danick) |
singuliarity is also availiable ...I thk.... |
| 15:25 |
Larkylouz |
Oh my, she is gone again! |
| 15:26 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
Mr Timeless, might be you wear something which sets the camera position |
| 15:26 |
Samsara Timeless |
no.. this is a very recent problem.. nothing has changed with my av |
| 15:26 |
Samsara Timeless |
or my clothing in fact |
| 15:27 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Odd. |
| 15:27 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
you could check the Debug settings for the camera, if they are on default or set wrong |
| 15:27 |
Samsara Timeless |
it certainly is :( |
| 15:27 |
Marion Questi |
Miss Timeless, there is a Debug setting for CameraPreset which controls the default camera position |
| 15:27 |
Samsara Timeless |
I've reset everything i can to default.. also uninstalled and downloaded again.. still no joy |
| 15:28 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
The one thing I have seen a bug report on (and run into myself) is that some partly transparent prims with glow on can turn solid black at some distances and angles. |
| 15:28 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
have you tried to delete the current Firestorm Bridge and relog? |
| 15:28 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I thought his issue was with the LL viewer, not firestorm? |
| 15:29 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
oh |
| 15:29 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
good point!, thanks for the hint |
| 15:29 |
55s ETC (55aaa.danick) |
a clean install should clear the former bridge ...no? |
| 15:30 |
Samsara Timeless |
its with the SL viewer.. but ista has suggested a fix for it.. thank you |
| 15:30 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
it is an attached object with an LSL script. i don't think it gets detached if one switch the viewer or deinstall the FS. |
| 15:30 |
Tali Rosca |
Actually, no, since the bridge is an inventory item, but that is tangential to a problem with the *LL* viewer. |
| 15:30 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Cool. See. They don't need us at all :) |
| 15:30 |
Samsara Timeless |
lol ? |
| 15:31 |
Marion Questi |
Perhaps we should move along...Next question? |
| 15:31 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Martini would probably be appalled, but I honestly can't recommend the LL viewer to anyone who doesn't have to use it because they process significant sums of L$ in their business. |
| 15:31 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
if nothing helps i would try to load the default avatar. its worth to test it |
| 15:32 |
Marion Questi |
Questions anyone? |
| 15:32 |
55s ETC (55aaa.danick) |
wow ...im taken back Carl |
| 15:32 |
Tali Rosca |
The LL viewer is the base. All other viewers merely bolt extra things on top of that. |
| 15:33 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Just personal experience. Most of the third party viewers seem more robust. |
| 15:33 |
Leana Sidhe (ceres44) |
Is there a sim, that deals with pschological issues of SL? |
| 15:33 |
Ista (istadychalion) |
...bolt extra things on top of a prior version of the LL viewer. |
| 15:33 |
55s ETC (55aaa.danick) |
ummm i do think the ll viewer is a RAM eater compared to |
| 15:34 |
Larkylouz |
Miss, Sidhe, perhaps Virtual Ability? They deal in helping folks with various challenges, and making SL accessible to them. |
| 15:34 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
i remember one, i think it was New York something... they had a center for Asperger. |
| 15:34 |
55s ETC (55aaa.danick) |
i thk firestorm tends to improve itself where LL viewer seems to compromise |
| 15:34 |
Leana Sidhe (ceres44) |
Well, I mean the unique things you find in SL, such as people using double avatars on you |
| 15:35 |
Leana Sidhe (ceres44) |
the stuff Jung didn't cover |
| 15:35 |
Marion Questi |
I'm not aware of a sim, Miss Sidhe....but there was a book called "I, Avatar" |
| 15:35 |
Marion Questi |
http://www.amazon.com/Avatar-Culture-Consequences-Having-Second/dp/0321533399 |
| 15:35 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
There are classes on avatar safety (we have one). |
| 15:35 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
hm, never heard about something like that |
| 15:35 |
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Ista (istadychalion) scrunches down |
| 15:36 |
Carl Metropolitan |
There are also a number of locations (I can't recommend any in particular) that are "support" groups for various RL conditions. |
| 15:36 |
Ravelli Ormstein |
if there is none around, perhaps it is worth to found one |
| 15:36 |
Leana Sidhe (ceres44) |
ok, I, Avatar, that was what I was looking for |
| 15:37 |
Leana Sidhe (ceres44) |
Thank you |
| 15:37 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Lots of people have alts. It is not normally a problem unless they use them to manipulate or deceive other people. |
| 15:37 |
Marion Questi |
You're welcome. |
| 15:37 |
Leana Sidhe (ceres44) |
Yes |
| 15:38 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
And SL can as easily have people willing to take advantage as can RL. The difference here is that both appearance and avatar are "fluid". |
| 15:39 |
Leana Sidhe (ceres44) |
Yes that is what I was getting at. |
| 15:39 |
Marion Questi |
Who has another question for us? |
| 15:40 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Several organizations do have classes on avatar safety. |
| 15:40 |
55s ETC (55aaa.danick) |
thk you ...Have a gd week all ....should be an interesting one... |
| 15:40 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Including us. |
| 15:40 |
Leana Sidhe (ceres44) |
hmm ok |
| 15:40 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
tc 55 |
| 15:42 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Next question? |
| 15:43 |
Marion Questi |
Perhaps we should adjourn early...I have to grill some brats...:) |
| 15:43 |
Marion Questi |
No questions at all? |
| 15:43 |
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Weebit Offcourse imagines small, annoying children on open spit ("brats") |
| 15:43 |
Samsara Timeless |
well Im going off to try ista's suggestion.. thank you all ? |
| 15:44 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
You've heard of bratwurst? |
| 15:44 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Bratwursts I hope. |
| 15:44 |
Marion Questi |
The wurst kind...of brats...:) |
| 15:44 |
Larkylouz |
hehe |
| 15:44 |
Tali Rosca |
I heard "brats", too, not "bratwurst". |
| 15:44 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Wurst made of? :-) :-) |
| 15:45 |
Larkylouz |
wurst idea I've heard in a while. . . |
| 15:45 |
Marion Questi |
I declare us adjourned! |
| 15:45 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Thank you all for coming. |
| 15:45 |
Leana Sidhe (ceres44) |
:) Thank you all |
| 15:45 |
Ista (istadychalion) |
Doesn't want to witness the making of brats. |
| 15:45 |
Sauce Sorrowman |
goodnight all |
| 15:45 |
Marion Questi |
Thank you all! Good night. |