Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2013-04-21
| 18:56 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | /me Slows to subwarp speed and settles in. |
| 18:56 | lorra (notshure2) | fasinating |
| 18:57 | Marion Questi | /me grins. "It may be another two dean night." |
| 18:57 | lorra (notshure2) | nods |
| 18:57 | lorra (notshure2) | claps |
| 18:58 | Marion Questi | And I am wrong once again! |
| 18:58 | Josain Zsun | /me remembers that '70s group |
| 18:58 | Marion Questi | Welcome Chancellor Discovolante! |
| 18:58 | lorra (notshure2) | smiles wide |
| 18:58 | Very old leather fireside chair w 3 fireside, 4 normal sits | whispers: (⇞PgUp or ⇟ PgDn ) change your pose. Touch for menu. |
| 18:59 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | >= to three dean night. |
| 18:59 | Martini Discovolante | howdyhowdy |
| 18:59 | lorra (notshure2) | well howdy to you all |
| 18:59 | Marion Questi | Let us begin. |
| 18:59 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Good eve, Miss. D. |
| 18:59 | Marion Questi | Welcome everyone! |
| 18:59 | lorra (notshure2) | thank you |
| 18:59 | Marion Questi | This is an "open mic" Q&A which we hold at this time every week. We, the Deans of Oxbridge, assemble to answer questions from the attendees about Oxbridge, it's mission and operation, or about SL in general. |
| 19:00 | Marion Questi | Who would like to ask the first question? |
| 19:00 | lorra (notshure2) | /me looks around |
| 19:00 | Larkylouz | /me raises her hand. |
| 19:00 | Larkylouz | Hello, all. I just had someone come into the welcome center at Oxbridge, and they hovered a bit above the floor. Nothing I could do seemed to allow them to break that animation and land. Any clues? Thanks in advance! #1 - That happens to me sometimes when I'm getting out of one of my bigger avs. SL doesn't reposition their center properly. Relogging and coming back in 5 minutes (usually) resets it. #2 - Sometimes just walking fixes it, sometimes you have to relog. #3 - firestorm also hovers on TP and sticks from time. FS also has a height offset, too. #4 - Sometimes that happens when the avatar is still in transit and hasn't fully loaded yet |
| 19:01 | Larkylouz | These 4 fixes are what I culled from asking in COU chat. Any feedback, additions, subtractions? |
| 19:01 | Marion Questi | Whew... |
| 19:01 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | hehe |
| 19:01 | Larkylouz | /me is NEVER wordy. |
| 19:01 | Marion Questi | I can't say it's ever happened to me. |
| 19:02 | Marion Questi | So it can't be a very very common problem. |
| 19:02 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | It happens with one of my fireside sit circles |
| 19:02 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | People get stuck in the air flailing wildly about |
| 19:02 | Larkylouz | I've had people hover there for upward of half an hour. They are also well able to issue invectives in multiple languages while hovering. |
| 19:02 | kat (ekaterin) | Does sitting somewhere, then standing, fix it? |
| 19:03 | Larkylouz | I suggested that, but I think he'd given up by then. |
| 19:03 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | Nods I usually have to sit somewhere |
| 19:03 | Larkylouz | Ctrl + Alt + S sort of sit? |
| 19:03 | kat (ekaterin) | No, chair sit |
| 19:03 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | Also.. there is a setting one can use in 2nd life where double click allows you to teleport away to another location |
| 19:04 | Larkylouz | I think I've seen that. Going to a different sim and coming back might help? |
| 19:04 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | That can happen a lot on TPing. Generally going into fly mode and then landing helps. |
| 19:05 | Larkylouz | I suggested that, Dean J, but he said it didn't help. |
| 19:05 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | That used to be a regular feature at Help Island. |
| 19:05 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | That problem is a permenant feature on my fire circle .. it doesn't do it to me but to everyone else it does |
| 19:06 | Larkylouz | I've never had it happen there, Cymbal. |
| 19:06 | Marion Questi | Now that's interesting...it's localized? |
| 19:06 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | You are one of the chosen ones then.. ahhh.. I must write that down |
| 19:06 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Well, if they land in the middle of the fire, I can understand the flailing |
| 19:06 | Larkylouz | I've mostly seen it hapen right above the landing disk in the welcome circle here. |
| 19:06 | Larkylouz | LOL, Dean J |
| 19:06 | lorra (notshure2) | nods |
| 19:07 | Marion Questi | When you described the problem, it sounds a lot like getting stuck inside a prim...which can happen on a TP...are there any hidden prims hovering over your fire circle? |
| 19:07 | Larkylouz | That is no doubt the uniqueness, Cymbal. They don't flail here, but then, there's no fire. |
| 19:07 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Sometimes it can just be having your LM set a bit high. |
| 19:07 | kat (ekaterin) | Ah, you lland ON someone, but they move at just the right time |
| 19:09 | Marion Questi | Let us move on. |
| 19:09 | Marion Questi | Next question? |
| 19:09 | Larkylouz | Thank you all. |
| 19:09 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Perhaps if you placed a giant there, like Newton, they could stand on its shoulders. |
| 19:09 | kat (ekaterin) | We can't. We are stuck |
| 19:09 | Larkylouz | Finally, a use for werewolves. |
| 19:09 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | Well I tried shooting them down at my fire circle |
| 19:10 | lorra (notshure2) | my friend ron |
| 19:10 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | Somehow they managed to right themselves before I pulled the trigger.. but I wouldn't suggest that method |
| 19:10 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Welcome, ron. |
| 19:10 | kat (ekaterin) | He is a ronnette |
| 19:10 | lorra (notshure2) | i am a cloud for two days says ron |
| 19:10 | zzzronzzz | i am a cloud for 2 days |
| 19:11 | lorra (notshure2) | hi ron |
| 19:11 | zzzronzzz | hi |
| 19:11 | lorra (notshure2) | your nacked |
| 19:11 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | /me covers her eyes |
| 19:11 | Larkylouz | I will give you an outfit |
| 19:11 | Marion Questi | Pardon me while I AR this person. |
| 19:11 | lorra (notshure2) | he needs help |
| 19:11 | zzzronzzz | need to fix this all i see is myself as a cloud |
| 19:11 | Martini Discovolante | he needs clothes |
| 19:11 | Martini Discovolante | and a bra |
| 19:12 | lorra (notshure2) | well sl is not perfict |
| 19:12 | kat (ekaterin) | Switch to a different avi |
| 19:12 | Krystal SaintClair (moonshadow2557) | /me looks away |
| 19:12 | Martini Discovolante | i aam going to send you a LM to the dressing rooms Ron |
| 19:12 | Martini Discovolante | and then i will send you a notecard |
| 19:12 | zzzronzzz | do you see me |
| 19:12 | Martini Discovolante | and talk to you in IM. okay? |
| 19:12 | Josain Zsun | Boy do we! |
| 19:12 | Martini Discovolante | yes. you are a naked woman |
| 19:12 | Marion Questi | We see you quite clearly... |
| 19:12 | kat (ekaterin) | Yes, you are a naked, hairy woman |
| 19:12 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Yes. You are visible but with no clothes |
| 19:13 | lorra (notshure2) | sorry |
| 19:13 | Marion Questi | You are naked in a G rated region. |
| 19:13 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | /me peeks out of one eye |
| 19:13 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | "hairy?" |
| 19:13 | Larkylouz | I have given you two outfits from the library. Do you know how to put them on? |
| 19:13 | lorra (notshure2) | he is new |
| 19:13 | zzzronzzz | sorry i see myself as a cloud i will leave i am sorry |
| 19:13 | Martini Discovolante | there is the dressing room |
| 19:13 | Larkylouz | No more hairy than any other human |
| 19:13 | kat (ekaterin) | bearded? |
| 19:13 | Larkylouz | I did give him/her a landmark to the dressing room |
| 19:13 | lorra (notshure2) | some one better be helping him |
| 19:14 | Martini Discovolante | i am with him in IM |
| 19:14 | Martini Discovolante | next question. |
| 19:14 | lorra (notshure2) | thank you |
| 19:14 | Marion Questi | Thank you MIss D. I cancelled the AR. |
| 19:14 | Larkylouz | I also offerend to help |
| 19:14 | lorra (notshure2) | yes thank you |
| 19:15 | lorra (notshure2) | your all so kind |
| 19:15 | Marion Questi | Was there a question back there that I missed? |
| 19:15 | Josain Zsun | Anyone?…Anyone?…Beuller?…Anyone?… |
| 19:15 | Gronk Seriman | He may be a victim of the server troubles yesterday. |
| 19:15 | lorra (notshure2) | yes? |
| 19:15 | kat (ekaterin) | Question: Once we have SSB, all of our procedures for fixing that will no longer work, no? |
| 19:16 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Shouldn't need them. |
| 19:16 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | And the problem of non-uniform visibility should go away. |
| 19:17 | Larkylouz | /me wonders if she *really* needs more excitement in her life.... |
| 19:17 | kat (ekaterin) | No more invisible uniforms? |
| 19:17 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | He saw himself as a cloud, we some him as naked. In the past, people have changed outfits, saw themselves as clothed, but others didn't see the clothes. |
| 19:17 | Larkylouz | Problem of non-uniform visibility? Serious questio |
| 19:18 | Larkylouz | Ah, I know that problem well.... |
| 19:18 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Avatar baking is currently done on the individual viewer. |
| 19:18 | lorra (notshure2) | whispers: thank you |
| 19:18 | Larkylouz | Avatar baking? What Cymbal is trying to do over her cookfire? |
| 19:19 | lorra (notshure2) | lol |
| 19:19 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | In the future, it will be done on a server, so everyone should see the same thing. |
| 19:19 | Larkylouz | I see. Thankyou Dean J |
| 19:19 | lorra (notshure2) | that would be good |
| 19:19 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Yes. It's like pottery. First you apply the glaze, then you fire them. |
| 19:20 | lorra (notshure2) | i did not know |
| 19:20 | Larkylouz | HAH! |
| 19:20 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | laughs |
| 19:20 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Which is why some avatars have a glazed look. |
| 19:20 | Josain Zsun | /me hopes the servers will sense the sim ratings before baking. |
| 19:20 | Larkylouz | Don't worry, Lorra. We all know how it is to be new. |
| 19:21 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | Except for me.. I don't remember, I am too old |
| 19:21 | lorra (notshure2) | thank you i took ron to help island he was 4 days old they where rude |
| 19:21 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | SOme of those places are incredibly rude! |
| 19:21 | lorra (notshure2) | i knew you are much better |
| 19:21 | Josain Zsun | Even with client 3.5.0 (273444), I'm still encountering invisible AVs, where only the newbie hair is visible. |
| 19:22 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Help Island is noted for not matching its name. |
| 19:22 | lorra (notshure2) | yes dean |
| 19:22 | Martini Discovolante | really? i end up yelling HELP!!! everytime o go there. |
| 19:22 | lorra (notshure2) | lol |
| 19:22 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | This is an oasis in SL |
| 19:22 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | I don't think they've implemented the server side baking yet. Still ironing out a few problems. |
| 19:23 | lorra (notshure2) | nods |
| 19:23 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | Hopefully.. they will be able to get firestorm supporting it |
| 19:23 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Thinks of Mike (the flaming spider)..... such and such, your microphone is on (idiot) |
| 19:24 | lorra (notshure2) | lol |
| 19:24 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | Deans I thank you for all of your work and patience on this sim, as incredibly trying as some of us are.. I do need to turn in this evening though and I apologize |
| 19:24 | Larkylouz | Good night, Cymbal |
| 19:24 | Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) | Good night all |
| 19:24 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Sleep well, Miss cymbal... Turn into? |
| 19:24 | lorra (notshure2) | waves |
| 19:24 | Marion Questi | Good night Miss Sociopath..and thank you. |
| 19:26 | lorra (notshure2) | i do have one deans please |
| 19:26 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Miss lorra? |
| 19:26 | Marion Questi | Yes Miss Lorra? |
| 19:26 | lorra (notshure2) | thank you |
| 19:26 | lorra (notshure2) | are any girl avis girls but me? |
| 19:27 | kat (ekaterin) | I'm not |
| 19:27 | Larkylouz | I'm a woman, Lorra. |
| 19:27 | lorra (notshure2) | smiles |
| 19:27 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | A fair number. |
| 19:27 | lorra (notshure2) | thank you deans and larky |
| 19:28 | Marion Questi | One can never be sure in SL who is behind any avatar. |
| 19:28 | lorra (notshure2) | lol |
| 19:28 | Marion Questi | Which is part of it's strength |
| 19:28 | lorra (notshure2) | thank you |
| 19:29 | Marion Questi | We must learn to treat people as they behave...not as we expect them to behave. |
| 19:29 | Marion Questi | But I digress... |
| 19:29 | Marion Questi | Next question? |
| 19:29 | Gronk Seriman | He may be a victim of the server troubles yesterday./me raises her hand. |
| 19:29 | lorra (notshure2) | yes dean thank you |
| 19:30 | Gronk Seriman | Gah! |
| 19:30 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | One might partially guess by if an actually female would want to inhabit the body. Male typists seem to exaggerate some features a bit much. |
| 19:30 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | But that's simply a probability game. |
| 19:30 | lorra (notshure2) | nods |
| 19:31 | Martini Discovolante | i take everyone as tye appear, and remeber that they might be anything , anything at all. |
| 19:31 | lorra (notshure2) | /me thinks all the boys girls and girls boys |
| 19:31 | Josain Zsun | "On the I'net, no one knows you're a dog." |
| 19:32 | lorra (notshure2) | like a bot dean? |
| 19:32 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Appearnce in SL is simply a garmet. |
| 19:32 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | *garment. |
| 19:32 | lorra (notshure2) | nods |
| 19:32 | Marion Questi | No bot deans! Our only bot is a janitor...:) |
| 19:32 | lorra (notshure2) | lol |
| 19:33 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | In the sense, you see more about their taste in "garments" then any external reality. |
| 19:33 | lorra (notshure2) | thank you |
| 19:33 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Well, there are times that I find being a pink bot useful. |
| 19:33 | lorra (notshure2) | omg lol |
| 19:33 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Like when some newbie seems to home in on anything remotely female. |
| 19:34 | lorra (notshure2) | i do know |
| 19:34 | lorra (notshure2) | grrr |
| 19:35 | Friends of Caledon Oxbridge Donation Medallion | notshure2 Resident gave a generous donation to Friends of Caledon Oxbridge to help support classes, tutorials, & tier at Caledon's Oxbridge |
| 19:35 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | For some reason, seeing me change into a pink robot seems to disconcert therm. It does make the point abut appearance and reality, however. |
| 19:35 | lorra (notshure2) | nods |
| 19:36 | Martini Discovolante | i like the Cockroach for that. with a KISS request |
| 19:36 | lorra (notshure2) | lol |
| 19:36 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | heh |
| 19:36 | Martini Discovolante | Mrs. Gregor Samsa. |
| 19:36 | Larkylouz | LOL |
| 19:38 | Gronk Seriman | /me raises her hand. |
| 19:38 | Marion Questi | Yes Miis Seriman? |
| 19:38 | Gronk Seriman | Last week, somebody mentioned SL will support Materials, like bumpmaps and specular maps. I was fascinated, and researched it further. But I could not find if this will apply to avatars, too. Any knowledge? |
| 19:38 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Aye, Miss Gronk? |
| 19:38 | lorra (notshure2) | /me looks around |
| 19:39 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Well, if you replace you avatar with a mesh replica, it would. |
| 19:39 | Larkylouz | What are avatars now? Something unique, not a prim or whatever? |
| 19:40 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Yes. Avatars are what they are. |
| 19:40 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | And have their own rigging for animations and templates for texturing. |
| 19:40 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | And sliders for shaping. |
| 19:41 | Gronk Seriman | ...but for some reason, they aren't given the full range of texture controls that prims have. |
| 19:42 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | That's a good question, however. Whether all textures will support materials or just some. At this point, I don't know, but I'll keep an eye open re that. |
| 19:43 | Larkylouz | 'materials'? |
| 19:44 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | A material will have capabilities for specular reflection and normal maps. |
| 19:44 | Larkylouz | I found a discussion online. TY, Dean J |
| 19:44 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | The latter can simulate finer detail on a less resolved mesh. |
| 19:45 | Marion Questi | Next question? |
| 19:46 | lorra (notshure2) | yes dean i do |
| 19:46 | Marion Questi | Please go ahead. |
| 19:46 | lorra (notshure2) | thank you |
| 19:46 | lorra (notshure2) | why do i trip over things |
| 19:47 | Marion Questi | Is that a metaphysical question? |
| 19:47 | lorra (notshure2) | and not just walk over |
| 19:47 | lorra (notshure2) | in sl |
| 19:47 | Marion Questi | I'm not sure what you mean by trip over. Does your avatar fall down? |
| 19:47 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Depends how high the next step is. |
| 19:48 | lorra (notshure2) | yes |
| 19:48 | lorra (notshure2) | trips and allmost falls doun |
| 19:48 | Martini Discovolante | maybe it is your AO |
| 19:48 | Marion Questi | But does not actually fall down.. |
| 19:48 | kat (ekaterin) | May have something to do with the fae on your shoulder? |
| 19:49 | lorra (notshure2) | no it could be the ao yes |
| 19:49 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | It might detect if you are "in the air". |
| 19:49 | Bella | i was very good lorra |
| 19:49 | lorra (notshure2) | yes bella i know |
| 19:50 | lorra (notshure2) | she is a fire pixie |
| 19:50 | lorra (notshure2) | thank you ao i think to |
| 19:51 | lorra (notshure2) | deans |
| 19:51 | Marion Questi | Next question anyone? |
| 19:51 | lorra (notshure2) | i do |
| 19:51 | lorra (notshure2) | please |
| 19:51 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | ;) |
| 19:51 | Marion Questi | Yes Miss Lorra. |
| 19:52 | lorra (notshure2) | well sl cost more someday? |
| 19:52 | Marion Questi | Hard to say... |
| 19:52 | lorra (notshure2) | nods |
| 19:52 | Martini Discovolante | i rather doubt it... but i have no reall knowledge |
| 19:52 | lorra (notshure2) | thank you |
| 19:52 | Martini Discovolante | jsut my take on it |
| 19:53 | Marion Questi | We are not privy to the details of LL's business model. |
| 19:53 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | If anything, the technology becomes cheaper. |
| 19:53 | lorra (notshure2) | thank you i had hoped |
| 19:53 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | And competitors increase. |
| 19:53 | lorra (notshure2) | nods |
| 19:54 | lorra (notshure2) | whispers: its the best |
| 19:54 | Martini Discovolante | they have never lowered prices, but we can now get more for our money, through judicious prim-husbandry |
| 19:54 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Now, Philip Rosedale, who started Linden Lab, has a new project called High Fidelity. |
| 19:55 | lorra (notshure2) | judicious prim-husbandry whats that lol |
| 19:55 | Martini Discovolante | you can now combine prims, or use mesh objects to get more on the land you pay for. |
| 19:55 | Martini Discovolante | in ways that did not exist before |
| 19:55 | lorra (notshure2) | ohhhh thank you |
| 19:56 | Galben Glover (lyndal.homewood) | 64m prims vs. 10m helped a lot as well |
| 19:56 | Martini Discovolante | ooooh yes. |
| 19:56 | Martini Discovolante | that is relatively new too! i forgot! |
| 19:56 | Martini Discovolante | <<<spoiled now! |
| 19:56 | Galben Glover (lyndal.homewood) | 1 prim roofs and floors... |
| 19:57 | Martini Discovolante | sigh yes! |
| 19:57 | lorra (notshure2) | /me thinks how some of this is over her head |
| 19:57 | Martini Discovolante | and multiple attachments to a simgle point--- much better than before! |
| 19:57 | kat (ekaterin) | roofs, not floors |
| 19:57 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | And hair that doesn't attach to your center when you TP. |
| 19:58 | Josain Zsun | Anyone wanna buy some mega-prims?...Cheap? |
| 19:58 | lorra (notshure2) | glad i missed it |
| 19:58 | Martini Discovolante | Iolla-- you can do more now, than i could when i started, for the same price :) |
| 19:58 | lorra (notshure2) | like |
| 19:59 | Martini Discovolante | hear hat and hair on your SKULL |
| 19:59 | Martini Discovolante | wear* |
| 19:59 | Martini Discovolante | wear underwear and a tattoo :) |
| 19:59 | lorra (notshure2) | nods |
| 19:59 | Galben Glover (lyndal.homewood) | HIDE parts of your AV... |
| 19:59 | Martini Discovolante | oh yes. |
| 20:00 | Martini Discovolante | no more invisiprims for feets |
| 20:00 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | avatar alpha layer |
| 20:00 | Galben Glover (lyndal.homewood) | like my sexy legs, lol |
| 20:00 | Martini Discovolante | heehee |
| 20:00 | lorra (notshure2) | nice |
| 20:00 | lorra (notshure2) | sorry dean |
| 20:00 | Martini Discovolante | ding! |
| 20:00 | Marion Questi | We are out of time. |
| 20:00 | lorra (notshure2) | awwww |
| 20:01 | lorra (notshure2) | thank you all |
| 20:01 | kat (ekaterin) | Thank you, deans. |
| 20:01 | Marion Questi | Thank you all for the stimulating conversation! |
| 20:01 | Martini Discovolante | it has bee lovely--- thank you all |
| 20:01 | Gronk Seriman | Thank you, Deans! |
| 20:01 | Marion Questi | We are adjourned. |