| 19:00 |
Marion Questi |
Seven o'clock is upon us. |
| 19:00 |
Marion Questi |
I think we should begin. |
| 19:01 |
allison2489 |
im distracted by a wooden box |
| 19:01 |
Marion Questi |
Looks like it is a two dean night...:) |
| 19:01 |
allison2489 |
ooooh its changing |
| 19:01 |
allison2489 |
wait this is cool |
| 19:01 |
Marion Questi |
Welcome everyone to Q&A with the Deans. |
| 19:01 |
Marion Questi |
This is an "open mic" Q&A which we hold at this time every week. We, the Deans of Oxbridge, assemble to answer questions from the attendees about Oxbridge, it's mission and operation, or about SL in general. |
| 19:01 |
allison2489 |
O.O |
| 19:01 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
shuffles through her notecards |
| 19:01 |
Marion Questi |
Who would like to ask the first question? |
| 19:02 |
allison2489 |
Do you like my hair? |
| 19:02 |
drett (drett.baxter) |
me |
| 19:02 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
/me rolls her bat eyes |
| 19:02 |
Marion Questi |
Yes, Mr Baxter? |
| 19:03 |
drett (drett.baxter) |
What's the meaning of Second Life? |
| 19:03 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I think that falls under 42. |
| 19:03 |
allison2489 |
oh my that graph is depressing |
| 19:03 |
Larkylouz |
42? |
| 19:03 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Meaning of life, the universe, AND everything. |
| 19:03 |
Marion Questi |
In the beginning Second Life was with out form. Then came the builders who imposed order on the void. |
| 19:04 |
Marion Questi |
Second Life is about the act of creation. |
| 19:04 |
Ravini T. Mephisto (thaumaturgist) |
It's a shared creative space, in short |
| 19:04 |
drett (drett.baxter) |
What's the purpose? |
| 19:04 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
It depends! |
| 19:04 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
Thats the answer! |
| 19:04 |
drett (drett.baxter) |
Why are we here? |
| 19:04 |
allison2489 |
to look at my hair |
| 19:04 |
allison2489 |
:D |
| 19:04 |
ferrous (ferrouswheel) |
Yay! |
| 19:05 |
allison2489 |
lol |
| 19:05 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
Because we don't like football? |
| 19:05 |
Marion Questi |
We're here to admire the builds...:) |
| 19:05 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Because we choose to create here and chat with others nonlocally here. |
| 19:05 |
Larkylouz |
The answer to that is as varied as the number of users. |
| 19:05 |
allison2489 |
to build a cage |
| 19:05 |
allison2489 |
to make a digimon |
| 19:05 |
allison2489 |
to make friends |
| 19:05 |
Marion Questi |
Unless you frequent Zindra...in which case you may be here for other reasons.... |
| 19:05 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Or perhaps, to try on clothes and lifeforms impractical in some other world. |
| 19:05 |
ferrous (ferrouswheel) |
To be smaller and smarter than everyone else |
| 19:05 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
oooh what is Zindra? |
| 19:06 |
allison2489 |
to have floating hair |
| 19:06 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
To create a 3D version of one's imagination and play in it |
| 19:06 |
Marion Questi |
Zindra is the Adult continent. Caledon is like the Never Land. We never grow up! |
| 19:06 |
Larkylouz |
Oh, I like that definition! |
| 19:07 |
Marion Questi |
Moving right along....who has a serious question for the Deans? |
| 19:07 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
/me shuffles through her notes for an intelligent question |
| 19:08 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Wait. He said serious. |
| 19:08 |
allison2489 |
awwww |
| 19:08 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Intelligent is something all together different, said the white knight. |
| 19:08 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
:) |
| 19:08 |
Larkylouz |
I would like to be able to see / use a viewer that has the Portuguese names for the buttons. What is the best way to accomplish that? |
| 19:08 |
Larkylouz |
I'm currently using the LL SLV. |
| 19:09 |
allison2489 |
i cant do serious |
| 19:09 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
Is there a language option for Sl installation? |
| 19:09 |
Marion Questi |
In the General tab of your preferences, you can set the viewer language. |
| 19:09 |
allison2489 |
Where are the other deans? |
| 19:09 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
Never tried it.. if I accidentally do it I will freak myself out |
| 19:10 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
Watching football! glares at allison... |
| 19:10 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
It's the top pull-down., and requires a restart. |
| 19:10 |
Larkylouz |
Okay. I looked and must have missed that. |
| 19:10 |
ferrous (ferrouswheel) |
Remember which one you changed :) |
| 19:10 |
allison2489 |
that Ms.2489 to you |
| 19:10 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
/me shrugs one of her shoulders |
| 19:11 |
Ravini T. Mephisto (thaumaturgist) |
System Language is a Preferences setting, at the top of the General page. You can open Preferences without logging on by typing CTRL + P when you are at the logon screen. |
| 19:11 |
Marion Questi |
Are you a Portuguese speaker, Miss Louz? |
| 19:11 |
Larkylouz |
TY. I also tried to download Phoenix, but it looks like it is an English version. |
| 19:11 |
allison2489 |
what with the graph |
| 19:11 |
ferrous (ferrouswheel) |
She wants to help Portuguese denizens |
| 19:12 |
Larkylouz |
No. I was trying to help someone in Portuguese and really wanted toknow what their buttons looked like. She wasn't understanding me. |
| 19:12 |
Marion Questi |
Ah... |
| 19:12 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
You asked about the attendance monitor. That's a summary of some information gathered over time. |
| 19:12 |
allison2489 |
its kind of depressing |
| 19:13 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
In comparison to what Allison? |
| 19:13 |
allison2489 |
how it went down |
| 19:13 |
Marion Questi |
The graph can be misleading. We used to have more classes on the schedule. |
| 19:13 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Given that SL itself has been losing real estate, and killed the gateway program, not as you might interpret it. |
| 19:13 |
allison2489 |
oh |
| 19:14 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
What is the gateway program? |
| 19:14 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
Is that when the great nothingness started? |
| 19:14 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
And a number of people who were doing some classes like tours, Caledon history, ... |
| 19:15 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
At one point, Linden Lab decided that it would be nice to have community run entrance gateways |
| 19:15 |
Larkylouz |
The Gateway program was the LL effort to provide newbie instruction areas, previous to Oxbridge, if I remember right. |
| 19:15 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Places to instruct newbies on basic SL skills. |
| 19:15 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
Oooh.. okay |
| 19:16 |
Marion Questi |
An ongoing problem for Linden Lab is how to help people overcome the SL's initial learning curve. Various methods have been tried. One method was to allow citizens to set up Community Gateways which offered tutorials and help, and which could be accessed at the time of sign up as one's initial destination. |
| 19:16 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
Silly me.. Im just empty headed!! |
| 19:17 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
Yes I guess since there are not giant buttons zooming onto ones screen flashing over and over.. PRESS ME! PRESS ME! |
| 19:17 |
Marion Questi |
Oxbridge was initially part of that program. |
| 19:17 |
drett (drett.baxter) |
Are the classes free? |
| 19:17 |
Marion Questi |
But the program was canceled about two years ago...yet Oxbridge still soldiers on...) |
| 19:17 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
OMG..! Holds her throat bugging her eyes out.. people have to READ |
| 19:17 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Yes. Free classes. Just arrive at the scheduled time. |
| 19:18 |
drett (drett.baxter) |
What is the Avatar Safety class about? |
| 19:19 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
Let me ask as they are canned, can I just tell drett. |
| 19:19 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Avoiding and dealing with situations of harrassment or griefing. |
| 19:20 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Not completely canned. |
| 19:20 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
Yes. |
| 19:20 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Notecard assisted. |
| 19:20 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
Ah |
| 19:20 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
Wondered about all the green boxes. |
| 19:20 |
Marion Questi |
There are instructors to whom questions may be address....hardly canned. |
| 19:20 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
Yes. |
| 19:20 |
Marion Questi |
Green boxes? |
| 19:21 |
Larkylouz |
) |
| 19:21 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
Green type w./ grey boxes if chat is minimized/ |
| 19:21 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
/me iT's my favorite class. |
| 19:21 |
allison2489 |
ravini left |
| 19:22 |
allison2489 |
brb |
| 19:23 |
Marion Questi |
Next question? |
| 19:23 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
I came in late, which is one reason why I asked if Master Drett could be given the transcript. |
| 19:23 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
and |
| 19:23 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
is there a way to match sound effects to actions? |
| 19:24 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
the typing sound is obvious. |
| 19:24 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
but there are sundry bells. |
| 19:24 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
You can have gestures that include sound effects, but they don't always occur in the timing planned. |
| 19:25 |
Marion Questi |
A gesture is composed of a sequence of animations, chat and sounds....but synchronization can be iffy |
| 19:25 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
it depends a lot on lag. |
| 19:26 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
The Builders' Brewery often makes a bell sound when someone talks in that group. Not so for Caledon Oxbridge. |
| 19:26 |
Marion Questi |
You see...in order for your viewer to play a sound, it must first be downloaded to your viewer. If you aren't expecting to need the sound, it won't get downloaded.... |
| 19:26 |
ferrous (ferrouswheel) |
In firestorm, you can substitutye your own sounds for the ui sounds. Preferences/Sound and Media/UI Sounds |
| 19:26 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
ty Master ferrous. |
| 19:27 |
Evil Sociopath Beware (cymbal.constantine) |
Excuse me Deans |
| 19:27 |
Marion Questi |
In a script, I can cause a sound to be preloaded....but not so with gestures. |
| 19:27 |
ferrous (ferrouswheel) |
Mistress. Uh, no, Ms. |
| 19:28 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
My apologies, Ms. Ferrous (rule 42, everyone on the internet is a guy.) |
| 19:28 |
Josain Zsun |
I thought they were dogs |
| 19:28 |
drett (drett.baxter) |
a guy in his mom basement |
| 19:28 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
More questions? |
| 19:29 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
Another question, in a very quiet area, is there a sound for when entities arrive? |
| 19:29 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
(otherwise I'll just be off reading facebook or such.) |
| 19:29 |
Larkylouz |
One must make no assumptions here. Make one and you'll soon be proved wrong. |
| 19:29 |
Larkylouz |
/me knows this from painful experience. |
| 19:30 |
Marion Questi |
I'm not sure what you mean, Mr Dav. |
| 19:30 |
Marion Questi |
Rephrase please? |
| 19:30 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
One can associate a sound with teleporting, but I don't believe there's a default sound. |
| 19:30 |
ferrous (ferrouswheel) |
One can get a 'radar' HUD which does that. |
| 19:31 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
If I were sitting here, say, before the Deans arrived and I forgot why I put my avatar here, could I get s bell or sound effect when someone, anyone, entered the lecture hall to remind me to switch over? |
| 19:31 |
Marion Questi |
Ah...you might be able to set the sound in some viewers...I can't think of a way to do it in the standard viewer. |
| 19:31 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Yes. As Ms Ferrous mentioned. |
| 19:32 |
Marion Questi |
YOu can certainly script a sensor in an attachment to warn you of approachimg avatars. |
| 19:32 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
How many viewers are there? |
| 19:32 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
You can always base it on sensing an avatar within range. |
| 19:32 |
Marion Questi |
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Alternate_Viewers |
| 19:32 |
Larkylouz |
My viewr flashes in the task bar - I think it does that when something happens in SL. |
| 19:32 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
Can I run the Standard Viewer in multiple user/accounts with the same avatar? |
| 19:32 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
ty Dean Questi. |
| 19:33 |
Marion Questi |
A given avatar can only be logged into one viewer at a time. |
| 19:33 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
(Otherwise I would have to use alts and multiple viewers.) |
| 19:33 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
You can use the same viewer for multiple accounts. |
| 19:34 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
But each account has its own avatar, although they could be configured to be the same. |
| 19:34 |
Marion Questi |
You can run multiple viewers if your computer can stand it...but each must be controlling a different avatar. |
| 19:34 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
Hello CkarlaFZ |
| 19:34 |
CkarlaFZ |
hi |
| 19:34 |
CkarlaFZ |
xD |
| 19:34 |
CkarlaFZ |
whats up |
| 19:34 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
I think you rightclick the bench and choose sit. |
| 19:35 |
Marion Questi |
This is a Q&A session Mr FZ. You are welcome take a seat. |
| 19:35 |
Marion Questi |
Next question? |
| 19:36 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
I haven't figured out how to log in with multiple alts (which I don't have yet) using the Standard Viewer. |
| 19:36 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
There's a preference setting |
| 19:36 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
ty |
| 19:36 |
Marion Questi |
Look at the Advanced Tab in Preferences. |
| 19:37 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Under general tab again - Allow Multiple Viewers |
| 19:37 |
Marion Questi |
There is a check box to allow multiple viewer.s |
| 19:37 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
kk |
| 19:37 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
Not sure how I 'launch' a SL a second time to log in an avatar. |
| 19:38 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Simply click on the icon again. |
| 19:38 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
(/me hopes s/he isn't crowding out other questions.) |
| 19:38 |
ferrous (ferrouswheel) |
Works differnt on PC vs Mac. |
| 19:39 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
and I have a MacBook, so didn't seem to work. |
| 19:39 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I believe you do have to restart for that option to go into effect. |
| 19:40 |
Marion Questi |
It's another one of those things which probably requires a restart. |
| 19:40 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
In the sense that all windows must be run under that option. |
| 19:40 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
/me sighs |
| 19:40 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
Noöne has the tutorial class on it, do they? |
| 19:40 |
Marion Questi |
I've never used it. I prefer to use a third party viewer if I need to run a simultaneous account. |
| 19:41 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I have used it, but not on a Mac. |
| 19:41 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
It does create a fair load on a PC. |
| 19:41 |
Marion Questi |
It's just as easy to fire up a copy of Imprudence... |
| 19:41 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
Will do, thank-you Dean Questi. |
| 19:43 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Good eve, Miss Ahstar. |
| 19:43 |
Ahstar (ahstar7) |
hello |
| 19:43 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
So, may I ask, more or less again about Chat Spies - have an avatar minding the store elsewhere while I sit here and let me know if I am needed at my homebase? |
| 19:43 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
2 avatars, 2 different viewers. |
| 19:44 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Or 2 avatars, same viewer ... either way |
| 19:45 |
Marion Questi |
I should think it would be easier to script a CallButton for someone to ring if they needed you in the store. |
| 19:46 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Or a monitor that IMs you if an avatar is in range. |
| 19:46 |
Marion Questi |
Right. |
| 19:48 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
(froze and crashed.) |
| 19:48 |
Marion Questi |
Does anyone have a question for us? |
| 19:48 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Simply running multiple avatars without direction is more a way to chew bandwidth. |
| 19:49 |
Ahstar (ahstar7) |
sorry avi difficulty |
| 19:50 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
A common feature of SL. |
| 19:50 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
(avi difficulties) |
| 19:50 |
Ahstar (ahstar7) |
indeed lol |
| 19:51 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
If there was a solution, I missed it. |
| 19:51 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
One watcher to check if a ball is going on and one to sit in, live, for classes here. |
| 19:51 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
It is likely more useful to have a call button or monitor prim than a second avatar. |
| 19:52 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
Aha, how do I find out about monitor prims... |
| 19:52 |
ferrous (ferrouswheel) |
Take a scripting class |
| 19:52 |
Marion Questi |
You need to learn to script. |
| 19:52 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
ty |
| 19:52 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
on my agenda, Ms. Ferrous. |
| 19:52 |
Ahstar (ahstar7) |
is there a calendar up for Feb? |
| 19:53 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
The Oxbridge class is weekdays, iirc. |
| 19:53 |
drett (drett.baxter) |
you can buy one |
| 19:53 |
dav2 (dav2b) |
I forget. |
| 19:53 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
It's not monthly, but updated as things change. |
| 19:53 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I am talking with a couple of different people about teaching scripting, to get that active again. |
| 19:54 |
ferrous (ferrouswheel) |
OpenGL |
| 19:54 |
ferrous (ferrouswheel) |
Woops, wrong window |
| 19:55 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
(smiles). I was going to as if that was a statement or a question. |
| 19:55 |
Marion Questi |
We have just 5 minutes left. Time for one or two more questions. Anyone? |
| 19:55 |
Ahstar (ahstar7) |
i certainly need the script class, ty |
| 19:56 |
Larkylouz |
I have trouble getting Profiles to work in my viewer. Someone said they use the Beta version of the SLV, but I read a bit about that and it said it doesn't update the library or anything. I use my library a LOT. Any other esuggestions? |
| 19:56 |
Larkylouz |
*suggestions. |
| 19:56 |
Marion Questi |
I think we all have trouble with profiles on occasion. Sometimes are worse than others. |
| 19:57 |
Ahstar (ahstar7) |
I use SLB as well, got another update yesterday however don't know if Library changed |
| 19:57 |
Ahstar (ahstar7) |
*SLB viewer |
| 19:57 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
nods. |
| 19:57 |
Marion Questi |
I don't know how to work around it. Try a relog... |
| 19:57 |
Larkylouz |
I mean that it doesn't update my library if I change something. |
| 19:58 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Inventory then? |
| 19:58 |
Larkylouz |
Inventory. Excuse me. |
| 19:58 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Since library is provided by SL. |
| 19:58 |
Ahstar (ahstar7) |
so does that effect anything if you clear cache? |
| 19:58 |
Larkylouz |
Yes. My brain is fried and I'm not even watching the SuperBowl! |
| 19:58 |
Ahstar (ahstar7) |
lites went out lol |
| 19:59 |
Larkylouz |
Ahstar, somethings work better if I go to a sim that doesn't have a lot going on in terms of animations and scripts, but the Profile thing doesn't work often at all. |
| 19:59 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I'm not aware of that difficulty with the beta version ..... it seems that would be a show stopper even for a beta version. |
| 19:59 |
Larkylouz |
Maybe I misread it, Dean. |
| 19:59 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I can look into that. |
| 20:00 |
Larkylouz |
Oh! |
| 20:00 |
Larkylouz |
Is Des responsible for glitches in the Village? |
| 20:00 |
Marion Questi |
The profile page uses HTTP...and sometimes it seems to get stuck. The same is true of the Search window. |
| 20:00 |
Ahstar (ahstar7) |
sorry, i'm somewhat confused, my fault arriving late ... missed the thread |
| 20:00 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Is there a village glitch? |
| 20:00 |
Larkylouz |
I fell under a bridge the other day and couldn't get out. I wanted to tell someone about it. |
| 20:01 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Not to worry, Miss Ahstar. |
| 20:01 |
ferrous (ferrouswheel) |
They are allowing glitches in the Village now? There goes the neighborhood. |
| 20:01 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
(rolls eyes) |
| 20:01 |
ferrous (ferrouswheel) |
:) |
| 20:01 |
Larkylouz |
Yes. A flight of stairs by a tunnel? I will find it and take a picture or get an address. |
| 20:01 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Was that at a sim boundary, Miss Larky? |
| 20:02 |
Ahstar (ahstar7) |
if this is in reference to glitches here - that is why i cae tonight to try sort out an issue from a day or two ago, still with me |
| 20:02 |
Larkylouz |
I don't think so. Not that I'm aware of, anyway. |
| 20:02 |
Marion Questi |
I think you mean Caledon Kyntyre. |
| 20:02 |
Marion Questi |
I must leave you now. Thank you all for joining us! |
| 20:02 |
Larkylouz |
If I remember right, it was when Osbridge was down, and my avatar kept flying to distant points without my help. |
| 20:02 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Bridges and the like at sim boundaries are often problematic. |
| 20:02 |
Ahstar (ahstar7) |
ty |
| 20:02 |
Larkylouz |
Thank you , Deans. |
| 20:02 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Night, Dean Q. |
| 20:03 |
Marion Questi |
Good night all! |