Caledon Oxbridge General Q&A for 2021-07-25
15:01 | Carl Metropolitan | Hello everyone. |
15:01 | Carl Metropolitan | Welcome to this Sunday's Oxbridge General Q&A. I'm here to answer any of your questions about Second Life, Caledon, Oxbridge, Steampunk, Linden Lab, Virtual Worlds, and anything vaguely related to any of the above. |
15:01 | Carl Metropolitan | If I don't know the answer, I can Google it. In other words, I know where to look, or at least can probably put you in touch with someone who does know the answer. |
15:03 | Carl Metropolitan | To start with, I have an announcement. I'm no longer going to be able to host these Q&As. I'm going to have to step down. I will be talking to Wordsmith this week to find someone who can replace me. |
15:04 | Agatha Macbeth | Aww |
15:04 | Carl Metropolitan | I think that there are a lot of people at Oxbridge who could do it. |
15:04 | Gronk Seriman | Awwwww! |
15:04 | Carl Metropolitan | I'm sorry. |
15:04 | Casdetra | :( |
15:05 | Zaida Gearbox (zaida.gearbox) | we will miss you Carl. |
15:05 | Gronk Seriman | Yes we will! |
15:06 | Casdetra | Are you leaving Caledon? |
15:06 | Carl Metropolitan | No. I don't think I will ever leave Caledon. |
15:06 | Carl Metropolitan | I have had issues making these over the last few months for a variety of personal reasons. I can't keep "hosting" when I can't be here dependably. |
15:06 | Katie (katie.canningham) | But you can still come to them sometimes, yeah? |
15:06 | Carl Metropolitan | Yes. |
15:06 | Gronk Seriman | I hope you still come and join the Peanut Gallery when you can. |
15:07 | Carl Metropolitan | I may move to a smaller parcel as I've never had time to work on my museum. I don't know. I'm paid up for a week. |
15:07 | Carl Metropolitan | Hello Andrea. |
15:09 | Carl Metropolitan | So. Let's go to questions. |
15:09 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | Waves. |
15:10 | Carl Metropolitan | Andrea, you may have missed my announcement. I'm stepping down as host of General Q&A. |
15:10 | Casdetra | I'm wondering why there is a Q&A every week, and not like every 2 weeks, I enjoy it, don't get me wrong, I'm just curious why every week |
15:10 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | I understand Carl. |
15:10 | Carl Metropolitan | It is easier for people to know when an event is if it is weekly. |
15:10 | Casdetra | k. |
15:10 | Carl Metropolitan | I'm going to get in touch with Wordsmith and see if another new host can be found. |
15:11 | Carl Metropolitan | So. Questions. |
15:12 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | Sorry, I came straight from a gig. No time to reboot and change. |
15:12 | Katie (katie.canningham) | All those cute vocalizations that dinkies can do, like the "hi hello hello hi hello" one—how do they do them? |
15:12 | Gronk Seriman smiles and waves to Sandie. | |
15:13 | Carl Metropolitan | They are Gestures. |
15:13 | Carl Metropolitan | Gestures are combinations of movements, text, and sound. |
15:13 | Katie (katie.canningham) | Are those particular gestures available? |
15:13 | Carl Metropolitan | Gestures are not used as often as they used to be in the early days of SL as a lot of people abused them to be obnoxious, so they fell out of fashion |
15:14 | Katie (katie.canningham) | rats. |
15:14 | Carl Metropolitan | But the ones you are thinking about are probably part of the "package" when you buy a dinky avatar. |
15:14 | Casdetra | ☆*¨¨*:•.•:*¨* hallo hello hi holla *¨¨*:•.•:*¨*☆ |
15:14 | Katie (katie.canningham) | I'll look again. I didn't see them, but them I'm really good at missing the obvious. |
15:14 | Katie (katie.canningham) | Yes! Like that! |
15:14 | Carl Metropolitan | It could be something that other people sell or distribute free. I don't know. |
15:15 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | All hail the great Shamalamadingdong! |
15:15 | Agatha Macbeth | Try the marketplace. |
15:15 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | ~*~ DRNCHED IN WOOTNOG!! ~*~ |
15:15 | Carl Metropolitan | The best thing would be to ask people who use them. Find out where they got theirs. |
15:15 | Casdetra | I sent it to her. |
15:15 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | You wants tiny gestures? I has em. |
15:15 | Katie (katie.canningham) | Yes please! for when I'm in dinkie form. |
15:17 | Carl Metropolitan | Well, that worked faster than most advice I've given. |
15:18 | Katie (katie.canningham) | Many thanks! |
15:18 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | :-) |
15:18 | Gronk Seriman | Well, the Enhanced Environment Protocol came and went with a rousing "yay." by the people. Are there any upcoming features SL is working on? |
15:19 | Carl Metropolitan | I don't know of any. |
15:19 | Carl Metropolitan | I think LL is kind of more lacking direction than normal. |
15:20 | Agatha Macbeth | Non-crashing teleports would be a nice feature |
15:20 | Carl Metropolitan | Oz Linden, the head of the SL side of the company, retired after the cloud transition. |
15:20 | Carl Metropolitan | There is new ownership. |
15:20 | Carl Metropolitan | Ebbe sadly died two months ago. So there is no CEO. |
15:20 | Gronk Seriman | And we lost Ebbe. |
15:20 | Carl Metropolitan | And no new CEO has been appointed. |
15:21 | Carl Metropolitan | It may be the new owners are reluctant to move forward on much until there is someone in charge. |
15:21 | Carl Metropolitan | I would follow these two blogs for more information: |
15:21 | Carl Metropolitan | https://modemworld.me/ |
15:21 | lovejoy2199 | After all. To them, this is a business. |
15:22 | Carl Metropolitan | https://nwn.blogs.com/ |
15:22 | Carl Metropolitan | Not to mention the official SL blog |
15:22 | Carl Metropolitan | https://community.secondlife.com/blogs/ |
15:22 | Katie (katie.canningham) | Awww dang, Philadelphia Story was playing at 1. |
15:22 | Katie (katie.canningham) | (modemworld blog) |
15:23 | Gronk Seriman | Thank you! I lost track of Inara Pey. |
15:24 | Carl Metropolitan | I'm surprised the new owners have not appointed people to replace Oz and Ebbe. |
15:24 | Carl Metropolitan | I would assume they knew about Oz's planned retirement and Ebbe's ill health when they bought the company, but it is possible they were surprised. |
15:24 | lovejoy2199 | Hummmm, that might say something. |
15:25 | Carl Metropolitan | I wish I had a better answer. |
15:26 | Gronk Seriman | It is also interesting LL was bought very soon AFTER Sansar was sold off. |
15:27 | Carl Metropolitan | Sansar was sold off to make LL's numbers look better for a future purchaser. |
15:27 | Carl Metropolitan | Sansar was also sold for pennies on the dollar for what LL invested in it. |
15:27 | Gronk Seriman | Gah! It was nice, too. Just soooo misguided. |
15:28 | Katie (katie.canningham) | It's still there, I think—tho I haven't logged in, in some while. |
15:28 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Required much too powerful rig, for one. |
15:28 | Gronk Seriman | Me neither. I should try it to see if it still works. |
15:29 | Sandie Harbour | I never looked at it. |
15:29 | Carl Metropolitan | I tried it and was unimpressed. It was far from intuitive to navigate. |
15:29 | Carl Metropolitan | I suspect a number of people logged in and were unable to figure out how to get out of their apartment room. |
15:30 | Katie (katie.canningham) | OTOH, it was nice being able to create my own multiple spaces for free. |
15:30 | Gronk Seriman | That was an interesting choice. You can run SL on just about anything that can get you online. Sansar chose to put a surprisingly high bar on equipment for entry. |
15:31 | Katie (katie.canningham) | I think they were trying to grab the VR market from Sinespace. |
15:31 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | I managed to get somewhere, but couldn't move there. |
15:31 | Katie (katie.canningham) | I could be wrong, though. |
15:31 | Carl Metropolitan | I don't know what they were thinking. LL never seemed to have a clear idea of what Sansar was for based on how their marketing for it kept changing. |
15:31 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | I saw mainly the attempted cooperation with DeviantArt. |
15:32 | Gronk Seriman | It's SL 2.0. No it's NOT SL 2.0! |
15:33 | Katie (katie.canningham) | If it were SL 2.0 the AVs would look a lot better. |
15:33 | Zaida Gearbox (zaida.gearbox) | and they kept asking stupid things like what we would be willing to give up to have SL 2.0—I was like why would i give up anything? i want everything i have now and some more besides |
15:33 | Gronk Seriman | Plus there was that quite disruptive Terms of Service SL had before Sansar opened, like as if they might port SL into Sansar. |
15:35 | Carl Metropolitan | Okay. Let's move on to questions and answers. |
15:35 | Carl Metropolitan | Next question? |
15:36 | Carl Metropolitan | Any? |
15:36 | Carl Metropolitan | I guess we could go back to complaining about Linden Lab :) |
15:37 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | I don't think it would serve that much of a purpose... |
15:37 | Gronk Seriman | What is the forward velocity of an unladen swallow? |
15:37 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Casdetra apparently crashed but she might have wanted to mention her event. |
15:37 | Carl Metropolitan | What is her event? |
15:38 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | Dance next week. Not sure what or where yet. Live music event in the Village Tuesday night. |
15:38 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Casdetra has a meditation event.. |
15:38 | Katie (katie.canningham) | And MGB's Monday night classic radio hour, too. |
15:38 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Times may change. |
15:39 | Katie (katie.canningham) | Meditation—Friday morning, no? |
15:39 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Yup. |
15:39 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | If you are in the ISC or the Student Union group or Caledonian Nights groups, there are notices on these and other events. |
15:39 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | And, well, I still host the Writers' Meeting |
15:39 | Katie (katie.canningham) | I think yesterday she said Friday at 11am, but I could be wrong. |
15:39 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | It has been in those times so far, Katie. |
15:40 | Carl Metropolitan | If you are not a member of the ISC group (Independent State of Caledon), please consider joining for a plethora of events. |
15:40 | Carl Metropolitan | If you need an invitation, IM me. |
15:40 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | If you need an invite to one of the groups, let me know, or Carl. |
15:40 | Katie (katie.canningham) | ok |
15:40 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | If you need weird writing prompt, ask me :-) |
15:41 | lovejoy2199 | There are 2 MGB programs? Blue Coal. |
15:41 | Gronk Seriman | If you need Lindens, don't ask me. |
15:41 | Carl Metropolitan | Oh. Most people asking for L$ in groups are bots. |
15:41 | Carl Metropolitan | If you run into that, now you know. |
15:42 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | If you need the address of the pretty girl in the grocery store, ask her, not me. |
15:42 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | hi Sandie |
15:42 | Gronk Seriman | Oh, yes. |
15:42 | Carl Metropolitan | So you know, if you run into that. |
15:42 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Some begging ones have also been captured old accounts. |
15:42 | Carl Metropolitan | I had not heard that. |
15:43 | Katie (katie.canningham) | Time to change my password again. |
15:43 | Carl Metropolitan | I know that sometimes old accounts are available on the secondary "gray" market. |
15:43 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | No idea if any of those were _sold_ accounts.. |
15:43 | Sandie Harbour | I've considered selling my account. |
15:44 | Agatha Macbeth waits for the punchline. | |
15:44 | Carl Metropolitan | I have no idea if people actually get much money for them. Just that it happens. |
15:44 | Sandie Harbour | No punchline. |
15:44 | Carl Metropolitan | I hope you keep yours. |
15:44 | Agatha Macbeth | 0.0 |
15:44 | lovejoy2199 | Rats!!!! |
15:45 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | I have sometimes wondered if somebody oblivious coming in with ten-year-old account is using a sold one. |
15:45 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | I have a rat rezzer... |
15:45 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | Digs in inv |
15:45 | Carl Metropolitan | We always get people who have been away for a long time returning. |
15:45 | Katie (katie.canningham) | I saw a cute video of a rat trained to bring a tissue when someone sneezed. |
15:45 | Carl Metropolitan | That was especially common during the coronavirus lockdowns. Some of which have resumed in parts of the world. |
15:46 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Yeah, lots of returnees. |
15:47 | Katie (katie.canningham) | also according to the second life sub-reddit. |
15:48 | Carl Metropolitan | I should check that out. I did not know there was one. |
15:48 | Gronk Seriman | I sometimes wonder how much junk SL servers must hold. Accounts no longer active. Inventory sold long ago, but not now. |
15:48 | Carl Metropolitan | No wait. Never mind. I did know that. I had just forgotten. |
15:48 | Carl Metropolitan | I am quite out of it. Not much sleep lately :) |
15:48 | Katie (katie.canningham) | Yes—it's not *really* huge but there's a fair number of people, I think. |
15:49 | Sandie Harbour | sometimes I wonder how many m's are typed here |
15:50 | lovejoy2199 | m&n |
15:50 | Carl Metropolitan | Ms? I don't understand. |
15:50 | Sandie Harbour | mmmmmmmmmm |
15:50 | Carl Metropolitan | Ah. |
15:50 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | :-) |
15:50 | Katie (katie.canningham) | or if you're meditating, ohmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
15:50 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) knows Finnish pun joke about love and letters M but it does not work in English. | |
15:51 | Carl Metropolitan | I think Gronk is typing a question. |
15:51 | Gronk Seriman | Didja hear the one about the blonde who was fired from the m&m factory? She was throwing out all the 3&3's and w&w's. |
15:51 | Katie (katie.canningham) | LOL! |
15:52 | Sandie Harbour | I'm blond in RL. |
15:52 | Carl Metropolitan | Okay. With that, I think it is time to adjourn. |
15:52 | Gronk Seriman | Yup. |
15:52 | Katie (katie.canningham) | This has been great, though! |
15:53 | Carl Metropolitan | I may see you all next week at this time. Depends on what sort of transition I work out with Wordsmith. |
15:53 | Gronk Seriman | Thank you, Carl, for all you have done! |
15:53 | Carl Metropolitan | Goodnight everyone . |