Caledon Oxbridge General Q&A for 2020-01-26

15:00 Carl Metropolitan It is 3 PM, STL, and it is time to start.
15:00 Carl Metropolitan Welcome to this Sunday's Oxbridge General Q&A. Andrea and I are here to answer any of your questions about Second Life, Caledon, Oxbridge, Steampunk, Linden Lab, and anything vaguely related to any of the above. I'm also good at trivia questions.
15:00 Carl Metropolitan If we don't know the answer, we can Google it. In other words, we know where to look, or at least can probably put you in touch with someone who does know the answer.
15:00 Carl Metropolitan Before we start with the questions, Andrea do you have any announcements that you would like to promulgate?
15:00 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Ok.
15:01 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) The fundraiser dance that we did last night brought in 20010 lindens
15:01 Carl Metropolitan That is very, very good.
15:01 Gronk Seriman Woooo!
15:01 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) we had a sponsor that matched the 10000 we took in from donors
15:02 Carl Metropolitan Very good. Is this person anonymous? Or can you tell us who they are?
15:02 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) They wish to be unnamed
15:02 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) So that should help. Next months fundraiser will be part of the Feb Caledon anniversary.
15:02 Carl Metropolitan Well, I'm sure everyone is thankful.
15:03 Carl Metropolitan Any other announcements? I know you have your Memorial Park up now.
15:03 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) No DJ for Tuesday night yet. We shall see.
15:03 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Back to you Carl.
15:04 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Thank you Larky for the donation.
15:04 Carl Metropolitan Well, it is time for you all to do your part in the Q&A session. Time for questions!
15:04 Carl Metropolitan Anything you want to know about SL, Caledon, Steampunk, etc.
15:05 Carl Metropolitan This is your chance to embarrass me by asking something I have no clue about.
15:06 Lexus Ling Is CasperVend the only system that now works in SL or are there other good Vendor systems in SL?
15:06 Larky (larkylouz) LOL. Carl, has that ever happened?
15:06 Larky (larkylouz) doubts it.
15:07 Carl Metropolitan There are a lot of vendor systems out there. I would go to Marketplace and type in "Vendors" in the search.
15:07 Carl Metropolitan CasparVend is used by a lot of stores and is well supported. I have no idea if there are better ones out there.
15:07 Lexus Ling Ok.
15:08 Carl Metropolitan I found this on the SL Wiki:
15:08 Carl Metropolitan http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Vendor_systems_comparison
15:08 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) One guy using beta grid noticed that texture loaded into here were accessible when he returned to main grid. anyone heard anything like that?
15:08 Carl Metropolitan It has last updated Apr 30, 2019, so it is not too old.
15:08 Lexus Ling ty.
15:09 Carl Metropolitan He uploaded a texture on to the beta grid and had it in his inventory when he logged in to the main grid?
15:09 Carl Metropolitan Or did he access the texture by its UUID (Universal Asset ID, the database key for the SL Asset Server)?
15:09 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Latter, I think.
15:09 Carl Metropolitan That would not surprise me at all.
15:10 Carl Metropolitan It is simple enough to test though.
15:10 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) His item could access the texture he had uploaded only into beta grid.
15:10 Carl Metropolitan I had a long problem where people were rezzing my old SL Maps on the Beta grid and they could not communicate with servers on the main grid and were spamming me with error messages.
15:11 Carl Metropolitan Are texture uploads still 10L$ on the beta grid?
15:11 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) I think they are free there for testing purposes.
15:11 Carl Metropolitan For those of you who don't know, the Beta Grid is a smaller version of SL used by both residents and Linden Lab for testing.
15:12 Carl Metropolitan That's a potentially major bug. If you can confirm it, you should file a bug report.
15:12 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) I do not use beta grid myself.
15:12 Carl Metropolitan Though textures you apply via UUID are not as useful as a regular one.
15:13 Carl Metropolitan I will try it this coming week. I've been there a few times.
15:13 Gronk Seriman That doesn't sound like a bug. It's a feature!
15:13 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) :-)
15:13 Carl Metropolitan If this were an MMO, it would be called an Exploit :)
15:13 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) hears grumbling from the ghost of Ghandi.
15:14 Carl Metropolitan Next question?
15:15 Carl Metropolitan Andrea needs DJs fairly often. If that is something anyone here does, they should IM her.
15:16 Carl Metropolitan Is there nothing in SL that is puzzling anyone else tonight? LL must have fixed a lot of stuff last week then :)
15:17 Gronk Seriman Does anybody else find that Bakes on Mesh to be the most underbaked feature released lately?
15:17 Frigid Cryotank They probably left the interns to fix stuff while the regular staff watched the Pro Bowl. Must have gotten a lot done.
15:17 Gronk Seriman It sorta works, but not really.
15:17 Cychwynn well I have a maybe strange question. I'm renting on Stormhold, and have a wandering pet in a fenced pen she cant get out of, yet she keeps getting disabled by the system, it seems to thing it is going over the sim border behind my plot. am I doing something wrong?
15:17 Carl Metropolitan The trouble with BoM (bakes on mesh) is it solves a problem from 2014-15.
15:18 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Her roaming range may be too high.
15:18 Cychwynn She cant go through physical items so the fence keeps her in. There is no set range.
15:18 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) You may need to reset her home spot too.
15:18 Cychwynn There is no home spot.
15:19 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Hmm.
15:19 Carl Metropolitan But while LL was dithering about building an expensive new virtual world no one uses, mesh body and head creators solved the problem with a hack of onionskin transparent layers on their products that stuff could be applied to.
15:19 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) I would send a notecard to the creator.
15:19 Carl Metropolitan Bakes on Mesh would have been a better solutions. But that horse has left the barn and the barn has burned down.
15:19 Cychwynn alright :) Thank you fer the help.
15:20 Carl Metropolitan Cychwynn, is the fence that the pet gets though right on the edge of the sim border?
15:20 Cychwynn No, I have set it at least a few paces back so she is in no way sticking over.
15:21 Carl Metropolitan Hmm... That would have been my first thought there.
15:21 Cychwynn mine as well :)
15:21 Carl Metropolitan I will second Andrea's suggestion. Contact the creator. It may be a known bug.
15:22 Carl Metropolitan If that fails, I will be happy to take a look at the area and see if I can come up with anything else.
15:22 Cychwynn thank you very much :)
15:23 Carl Metropolitan Let me ask one more thing. When you say "disabled by the system" does that mean the pet just stops working, freezes up? Or does that mean it is returned to your inventory?
15:24 Cychwynn It poofed completely; I had to have her redelivered.
15:24 Carl Metropolitan Not even to your Lost & Found folder?
15:24 Carl Metropolitan That is strange.
15:24 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Is it no copy?
15:24 Cychwynn No, she never made it to Lost and Found.
15:24 Cychwynn Tt is indeed no copy.
15:25 Carl Metropolitan I was thinking that it might have wandered over to a neighbor's land that has object entry or scripts turned off.
15:25 Carl Metropolitan Is it a breedable? Some of those have weird stuff programmed in.
15:25 Cychwynn No it is a Teeglepet riding horse.
15:26 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Hi kara.
15:26 Cychwynn They can also be rezzed as wandering pet.
15:26 Carl Metropolitan I'm stumped.
15:26 Carl Metropolitan There should be a prize for that!
15:27 Cychwynn Hurray :) lol just kidding. I will contact the seller, thank you so much for your consideration.
15:28 Carl Metropolitan Okay. Who's next with a question?
15:28 Carl Metropolitan We might be able to answer it even...
15:28 Kara2016 Smiles brightly for Andrea.
15:28 Carl Metropolitan I see Larky typing. She either has a question, an answer, or she's crashed and in a loop.
15:29 Larky (larkylouz) I have a Firestorm cat, and he constantly gets lost and I have to use FS Area Search to locate him. He falls out of skyboxes sometimes, and wanders until he is hidden. I've only been able to fix it by setting his wander to only a few meters, which then makes him go in constant small circles.
15:29 Larky (larkylouz) I had to go to tech support several times until I figured out how to corral him.
15:30 Carl Metropolitan That's a good idea. It is possible even that your pet gets lost underground or way up in the sky, too, depending on how it is scripted. I've seen stranger things.
15:30 Carl Metropolitan You can check for this by seeing if you are using extra prims on your parcel (in About Land) that you don't remember putting out.
15:30 Carl Metropolitan Okay. Next question?
15:31 Carl Metropolitan While I am waiting I want to promote the SL Wiki Limits pages at http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Limits
15:31 Carl Metropolitan As it says on the page, "The list below outlines many of the Second Life numerical limits that affect your inworld experience."
15:32 Carl Metropolitan There are so many useful facts about SL and how it works on that one page.
15:32 Carl Metropolitan I even have it in my picks.
15:33 Carl Metropolitan If no one else has questions, we shall adjourn early this afternoon.
15:33 Carl Metropolitan So last call for questions.
15:34 Carl Metropolitan does not see anyone typing.
15:34 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Thank you all for coming.
15:34 Larky (larkylouz) Thank you, Carl & Andrea.
15:34 Carl Metropolitan Thank you all for coming. We will be here next week Sunday February 2nd, same time and place.
15:34 Carl Metropolitan Goodnight everyone.
15:35 Oxbridge Donation Coin R1 (Alternate Lecture Hall) Kara2016 gave a generous donation to help support classes and tutorials at Caledon Oxbridge Gateway.
15:35 Carl Metropolitan Thank you Kara.
15:35 Gronk Seriman Same bat time, same bat channel.
15:35 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Ty Kara for the donation.
15:35 Kara2016 Smiles brightly.
15:35 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Okay, I have to try to get some sleep now.
15:35 Frigid Cryotank Has anyone noticed that voice chat connects and disconnects rapidly here?
15:35 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Emphasis on "try".
15:35 Carl Metropolitan Goodnight
15:35 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Hold the fort.
15:36 Cychwynn Goodnight all :)
15:36 Carl Metropolitan No. But we never have voice chat on at Oxbridge, so that is not surprising.
15:36 Oxbridge Donation Coin R1 (Alternate Lecture Hall) badgerofzen gave a generous donation to help support classes and tutorials at Caledon Oxbridge Gateway.
15:36 Lyban Goodnight all
15:36 Carl Metropolitan I don't' think it is enabled on this parcel either.
15:36 Carl Metropolitan Thank you Badger!
15:36 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Be seeing you.
15:36 Gronk Seriman firmly holds her bench down with locked arms.
15:36 Frigid Cryotank Hmm... I keep getting the connected message... Followed by a couple of connecting messages.
15:36 Frigid Cryotank Guess my viewer must be desperately looking for company.
15:37 Carl Metropolitan Let me check to see if voice chat is enabled here.
15:37 Frigid Cryotank I do see a dot over my avatars head.
15:37 Carl Metropolitan Voice is enabled here.
15:38 Carl Metropolitan I guess you win a prize too. I have no idea why it would be doing that. Try again on the ground level, perhaps?
15:38 Frigid Cryotank <snicker>. As soon as I figure out why Win10 can't seem to use my microphone. One moment.
15:39 Carl Metropolitan I've found that to usually be a case of a previous audio device still set to default in the settings.
15:39 Gronk Seriman I see my voice dot. I don't see anybody else here with one.
15:40 Carl Metropolitan If your microphone is not working, then it is possible that there will be no voice dot in SL
15:40 Carl Metropolitan That would explain multiple failed attempts to connect.
15:40 Frigid Cryotank Oh, the dot is there. This is a fresh install of Windows 10 and there are still some rough edges.
15:41 Carl Metropolitan I wish I could help further. What a conundrum. Which is more broken: SL or Windows 10?
15:41 Frigid Cryotank Had to install Win 10 to run their latest community compiler.
15:41 Frigid Cryotank This is also a beta of Singularity...
15:42 Gronk Seriman It's pretty much embrace Win10 or die, any more.
15:42 Carl Metropolitan That could also be the issue. A beta viewer.
15:43 Frigid Cryotank <sigh> Microsoft did everyone a favor by standardizing the PC platform.
15:43 Frigid Cryotank Then they monopolized the deal.
15:43 Carl Metropolitan Goodnight everyone.
15:44 Carl Metropolitan Off to do the transcript