Caledon Oxbridge General Q&A for 2019-09-01
| 15:00 | Carl Metropolitan | Welcome to Oxbridge General Q&A. |
| 15:00 | Carl Metropolitan | This general session takes the place of Q&A With the Deans three weeks out of the month, and Andrea and I are your hosts. |
| 15:01 | Carl Metropolitan | We are here to answer any questions you have about pretty much anything to the best of our abilities. |
| 15:02 | Carl Metropolitan | Andrea is even a Dean here, so she might be able to handle some questions related to her area of authority (fundraising), but in general we can't answer specific questions about rulings on Oxbridge policy |
| 15:02 | Carl Metropolitan | Andrea, do you have anything to add? |
| 15:03 | lovejoy2199 | Sorry. RL is calling. see you next week. |
| 15:03 | Carl Metropolitan | Bye Lovejoy |
| 15:03 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | Andrea, does your vision of half a world have anything to do with the current state of affairs with the RL earth? |
| 15:03 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | Inquiring minds and all that. |
| 15:03 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | I'm good, we are here to answer questions about sl or learning at the COU |
| 15:03 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | I lowered it so i wasn't so high up |
| 15:04 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | You deserve to be so high up. No worries. ;^) |
| 15:04 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | this was part of a photo booth i made for the last burning man hunt |
| 15:04 | Carl Metropolitan | I'm going to start with an announcement: The new freebie display on the west side of the Train Station is up. |
| 15:05 | Gronk Seriman | Yay! |
| 15:05 | Carl Metropolitan | I'm still expanding, but the old has been swept away to make room for the new (and repackaged old). |
| 15:05 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | Thanks for doing all that, Carl Big job! |
| 15:05 | Carl Metropolitan | I've divided it into three main categories for now "Building & Scripting", "Vehicles & Cool Stuff", and "Avatars & Clothing" |
| 15:06 | JackCulinane | I saw that. very nicely organized |
| 15:06 | Kara2016 | that's easier. |
| 15:06 | Carl Metropolitan | I'm working on beefing up the "Avatars & Clothing" section. That's hard as I have to check the provenance on everything that is suggested or donated. And often times, it is impossible as the creator has left SL. Or in some cases, LL has eaten the creator name even! |
| 15:06 | Carl Metropolitan | But I have some leads I'm running down. |
| 15:07 | Carl Metropolitan | Stop by and take a look when you get the chance |
| 15:07 | Carl Metropolitan | Okay |
| 15:07 | Carl Metropolitan | On to your questions! |
| 15:07 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) hands Carl virtual running shoes | |
| 15:07 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | :^) |
| 15:08 | JackCulinane raises hand | |
| 15:08 | Carl Metropolitan | Please ask Jack. |
| 15:08 | JackCulinane | This isn't so much a question as a comment |
| 15:08 | JackCulinane | When I was passing through Oxbridge about a week ago, I ran across someone named |
| 15:08 | Carl Metropolitan | That is cool, too. |
| 15:09 | JackCulinane | Tell me your SL Stories (quickgrasp) |
| 15:10 | JackCulinane | Anyway, he split before I could say a word to him, but I took a look at his profile, and apparently there's a RL university history department doing a project on second life |
| 15:10 | Carl Metropolitan | Interesting. I don't think that's against any rules. And the brief infestation of journalists from the heyday of SL has long passed by. |
| 15:10 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | People who want to do surveys and such need to be okayed by a Dean. Just FYI |
| 15:10 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | I dunno if this counts, Carl. <shrugs> |
| 15:10 | Lyban | Never trust a journalist |
| 15:10 | Carl Metropolitan | He or she should come to this session and ask us questions |
| 15:11 | JackCulinane | Well, from his name, I don't think he wants to do surveys, but rather talk to people about the early days |
| 15:11 | Carl Metropolitan | If he or she was just here to ask for stories, I don't think that applies as a survey. |
| 15:12 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | I saw him today, briefly in the entrance hall. No comments |
| 15:12 | JackCulinane | Anyway, looking around this room, I see a lot of veterans, so I thought I'd drop his name into the mill, so if you see him you might have a chat with him |
| 15:12 | Carl Metropolitan | I will keep an eye out for him. |
| 15:13 | Carl Metropolitan | Direct him to Word or Andrea. |
| 15:13 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | "Oh, I could tell you about the troublesome time of the Basic Accounts..." |
| 15:13 | Carl Metropolitan | Andrea, as Dean of Development, you do academic interface, right? Or did that get moved to someone else? |
| 15:13 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | I gave Word a heads up. |
| 15:14 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | I would prefer Word and Phrynne to answer to that. |
| 15:15 | Carl Metropolitan | Okay |
| 15:15 | Carl Metropolitan | Next question or comment? |
| 15:15 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | It would depend on what was being asked I would think. |
| 15:17 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | The art show in Southend ended last night. Thank you to those that participated |
| 15:17 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | No phone numbers or show sizes |
| 15:17 | Carl Metropolitan | I hope it was successful. |
| 15:17 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | i will have numbers for us next week |
| 15:19 | Carl Metropolitan | Did Wordsmith ever give you a total on the Fundraising Dance from two weeks ago? |
| 15:19 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | He did, But I lost it when I crashed |
| 15:19 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | I'll send out a notice this week on it |
| 15:21 | Carl Metropolitan | Does anyone have anything else they would like an answer to? I am pretty good at a lot of stuff that is not scripting. |
| 15:21 | JackCulinane | I put up an "Art Galleries of Second Life" kiosk at the Caledon Art Show. The show got five star ratings, five comments and was on 'hot this month' for a while |
| 15:21 | Carl Metropolitan | If you have scripting questions, I will say "Ask Wordsmith" |
| 15:21 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | Good to hear then. |
| 15:21 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Or Lady Sumoku |
| 15:21 | Carl Metropolitan | Ah great. I should see about getting my Museum listed in that. I did not know that was still around. |
| 15:21 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | A carnival wilt take it's place once all the art is picked up |
| 15:22 | JackCulinane | It's still around. |
| 15:22 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | hi Sandie |
| 15:22 | Sandie Harbour | Hello |
| 15:22 | JackCulinane | Oh, hello Sandie |
| 15:22 | Carl Metropolitan waves to the host of "How to Make a Clock"! | |
| 15:22 | Sandie Harbour | smiles |
| 15:23 | RainyDayRecess | May I ask about Bakes on Mesh? |
| 15:23 | RainyDayRecess | Like has anyone tried it yet? |
| 15:24 | Carl Metropolitan | I have a vague idea of what it is. But I think I know where to go quickly for answers. |
| 15:24 | JackCulinane | I'm not even sure what it is |
| 15:24 | Gronk Seriman | Curious about it. Haven't tried it. |
| 15:24 | RainyDayRecess | Does it work on new mesh bodies for baking the classic appliers? |
| 15:24 | RainyDayRecess | K, just checking ;) |
| 15:25 | Carl Metropolitan | https://modemworld.me/2019/08/27/bakes-on-mesh-a-basic-primer/ |
| 15:25 | Carl Metropolitan | Check that out |
| 15:25 | RainyDayRecess | Thank you ;) |
| 15:25 | JackCulinane | ok |
| 15:25 | Carl Metropolitan | From Inara Pey's blog. |
| 15:25 | Carl Metropolitan | I am still wearing a system body (all but hidden under my mesh suit, though) |
| 15:26 | RainyDayRecess | Same here |
| 15:26 | Carl Metropolitan | Here is an LL post on Bakes on Mesh, too: |
| 15:26 | Carl Metropolitan | https://community.secondlife.com/blogs/entry/2613-the-bakes-on-mesh-viewer-is-live/ |
| 15:26 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) wonders if FS is up to date yet | |
| 15:26 | Carl Metropolitan | It apparently went live on a LL viewer on the 26th |
| 15:27 | Carl Metropolitan | Firestorm will usually lag about a month behind on introducing new LL features |
| 15:28 | Carl Metropolitan | Check out https://www.firestormviewer.org/ for info on when they are ready to do a release. |
| 15:30 | Gronk Seriman | Meanwhile, Sansar is about to introduce "Avatar 2.0" How will they do that? By simultaneously stopping any support for their original avatars, and avatars for sale in their Marketplace. |
| 15:30 | Carl Metropolitan | Ah. Well that works if you have 50 people in your world, I guess. |
| 15:30 | Gronk Seriman | So you could have bought an avatar six months ago, and it will go poof when 2.0 starts. |
| 15:30 | Carl Metropolitan | That was a joke. Sansar has more than 50 users I'm sure. |
| 15:31 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Well, Ravelli visits sometimes... |
| 15:31 | Gronk Seriman | OK. 58. Maybe. |
| 15:31 | Carl Metropolitan | But, it has a very, very tiny economy. And LL will not break it by doing something like that. If they tried that in SL, there would be a mass revolt. |
| 15:31 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | And at least couple of people from DeviantArt... |
| 15:31 | Carl Metropolitan | And they would lose people they make money on. |
| 15:32 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | I have not checked the forums for years but I am sure there is some conspiracy theory going rounds again... |
| 15:33 | Carl Metropolitan | Let me tell you a story of the very early days of SL |
| 15:33 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | Does anyone spend anytime in Sansar or high fidelity? |
| 15:33 | JackCulinane | I went there once |
| 15:33 | Carl Metropolitan | Or I could answer Andrea's more interesting question :) |
| 15:33 | Carl Metropolitan | I went there once, too |
| 15:33 | Carl Metropolitan | I could not move well |
| 15:33 | Carl Metropolitan | I don't think it was because my computer was too slow |
| 15:33 | Carl Metropolitan | I can have two version of SL running at once plus Photoshop |
| 15:34 | JackCulinane | Actually, I probably logged in about six times, considering all the crashes |
| 15:34 | Carl Metropolitan | But I could barely get around in Sansar |
| 15:34 | Carl Metropolitan | I blame poor user interface design. And unresponsive avatars. I think it lags horribly, and they have a way to hide it. |
| 15:34 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | I caught a stream of DeviantArt showing things in Sansar. Even their hardware had trouble keeping up and they probably had selected good graphics cards. |
| 15:35 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Granted, graphics looked almost realistic. |
| 15:35 | JackCulinane | Apparently there is a virtual reality interface that is well known to those who frequent that type of place |
| 15:35 | Gronk Seriman | Plus, Sansar was made for goggles. flatscreen, mouse and keyboard were definitely not priority. |
| 15:35 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | Going back to the guy who wanted stories from SL at Oxbridge, this is what Word has to say about it: "Someone can ask for stories at a public event without approval. If they want to ask individuals who come to Oxbridge to be interviewed or fill out surveys, then they are doing human research and we want to see approval or exemption by a review board. " |
| 15:35 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | had the same problem, couldn't move and hi fidelity wouldn't run |
| 15:36 | Carl Metropolitan | Yes. Most "Do My Homework" types can be disposed of by asking to see RL paperwork from their university's Human Subject Review Board :) |
| 15:37 | Carl Metropolitan | Well, if Sansar is designed for the tiny amount of people with VR goggles only, it will never be a serious competitor to SL |
| 15:37 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | I give them landmarks and tell them to do the work. |
| 15:37 | Carl Metropolitan | Or anything. |
| 15:38 | Carl Metropolitan | As I joked before, it is looking like calling Sansar, Blue Mars 2.0, is being very unfair to Blue Mars. |
| 15:39 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | what is Blue Mars? |
| 15:40 | JackCulinane | Yeah, that went over my head, too |
| 15:40 | Carl Metropolitan | Blue Mars was a competitor to SL that was developed and released in the late '00s |
| 15:40 | Carl Metropolitan | It was designed around mesh from the beginning |
| 15:41 | Carl Metropolitan | And around multiple worlds accessible via a central area |
| 15:41 | Carl Metropolitan | Desmond Shang, the owner of the Caledon estate was an early adopter, and had a realm there called Caledonia |
| 15:41 | Carl Metropolitan | I am not sure if it still exists |
| 15:42 | Carl Metropolitan | It was never as popular as the Caledon Minecraft server :( |
| 15:42 | Carl Metropolitan | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Mars_(video_game) |
| 15:42 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) giggles | |
| 15:42 | Carl Metropolitan | The Blue Mars website is still up. Maybe their servers are |
| 15:42 | Carl Metropolitan | http://www.bluemars.com/ |
| 15:43 | Carl Metropolitan | I have not logged in there in years. |
| 15:43 | JackCulinane | Yeah, Tell me your SL stories should definitely sit in on these meetings |
| 15:43 | Carl Metropolitan | Last I heard they were reorienting toward mobile users. |
| 15:43 | Carl Metropolitan | Their loss. |
| 15:44 | Carl Metropolitan | Next question? |
| 15:44 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) has Imgur gallery of Caledon Minecraft builds from past times | |
| 15:45 | Carl Metropolitan | Could you paste a link if you have one handy? |
| 15:46 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Just a moment |
| 15:46 | Carl Metropolitan | Okay |
| 15:47 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | https://imgur.com/gallery/I5NdT |
| 15:47 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | I have not been in the current server, though, if any |
| 15:47 | JackCulinane | Ok... we have three people here under 30 days. What plans do we have to get more newcomers to come to these meetings to ask questions? |
| 15:49 | Carl Metropolitan | I have none. I've not thought about that yet. I should. I have been busy with freebies and RL. |
| 15:49 | Carl Metropolitan | It would be good though |
| 15:49 | Carl Metropolitan | Anyone have any ideas? |
| 15:49 | Lyban | Trust me. Newcomers like freebies. |
| 15:50 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | Is it on the Aether Chrononauts calendar? Perhaps a sign on the BB next to the class schedule grid. |
| 15:50 | JackCulinane | Parachutes? |
| 15:50 | TrivialRainfall | It's all part of learning, i like to sit and listen and if I feel I need to comment I will. Thank you! |
| 15:51 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | There was COUG notice. How about the Student Union notice? |
| 15:51 | Carl Metropolitan | I will see if I'm allowed to do that (the signs) |
| 15:51 | Carl Metropolitan | Is the Student Union group active? |
| 15:51 | Sandie Harbour | but it is also good for us to listen to our new residents |
| 15:51 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | I am not there. |
| 15:51 | JackCulinane | Can we advertise at, like, Social Island? |
| 15:51 | Carl Metropolitan | I thought most new people were funneled into COUG? |
| 15:51 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Advertising usually costs Lindens |
| 15:52 | Carl Metropolitan | Nope We can't. That is strictly controlled by LL. |
| 15:52 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Yeah, but Student Union is meant for general discussion |
| 15:52 | Carl Metropolitan | And dealing with LL involves politics. |
| 15:52 | Sandie Harbour | I wonder if some sort of survey might be helpful |
| 15:52 | JackCulinane | Can we make it look like an 'event' and get into destinations? |
| 15:52 | Carl Metropolitan | And that is something that Wordsmith has to do as the overall representative of Oxbridge. |
| 15:52 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | And everybody would want there, The Social Island. |
| 15:53 | Phrynne | Any survey done at Oxbridge needs approval from the Chancellor. |
| 15:53 | Carl Metropolitan | Any of the classes here are eligible for posting in the Events listing. |
| 15:53 | Lyban | The quicker people leave Social Island the better |
| 15:53 | Carl Metropolitan | I thought that was currently being done. |
| 15:53 | TrivialRainfall | I like this place. |
| 15:53 | Carl Metropolitan | Thank you Trivial. A lot of people have worked hard to build it and keep it this way. |
| 15:54 | TrivialRainfall | I feels like a place of learning. |
| 15:54 | Carl Metropolitan | I will ask Wordsmith about event posting. There may be a reason we don't do it, if we are not doing it. |
| 15:54 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Newcomers seem to come to Oxbridge somewhat randomly. YEsterday there were three who did not even know what they did to end up in Oxbridge |
| 15:54 | TrivialRainfall | I arrived at New Residents and felt totally lost. |
| 15:54 | TrivialRainfall | I was sent here by someone at New Residents. |
| 15:54 | Carl Metropolitan | I'm glad Oxbridge has been of more help to you. |
| 15:55 | Carl Metropolitan | "New Residents" or "New Citizens"? |
| 15:55 | TrivialRainfall | New Residents |
| 15:55 | Carl Metropolitan | Okay |
| 15:55 | Carl Metropolitan | People get those confused sometimes, so I wanted to check. |
| 15:55 | TrivialRainfall | Some very nice people here |
| 15:55 | Lyban | This place is wonderful |
| 15:55 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | We try |
| 15:55 | Lyban | You do |
| 15:56 | Carl Metropolitan | Can I take the last five minutes to request some help. |
| 15:56 | Jan Stroikavskoi smiles at Trivial :) | |
| 15:56 | RainyDayRecess | ;) |
| 15:56 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) checks his inventory for suspenders and finds none. | |
| 15:56 | JackCulinane | I think I've stopped telling the horror stories about the place I landed when I first logged on to sl |
| 15:56 | Carl Metropolitan | I am interested in adding a newsstand with links to web publications about SL and kiosks for in-world publications to the train station. |
| 15:57 | Carl Metropolitan | I need magazines, blogs, journals, etc that are not adult in nature. |
| 15:57 | Carl Metropolitan | A fashion magazine is cool. A fashion magazine with nudes is not. |
| 15:57 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Which reminds me; Oxbridge Guardian would probably do with some articles. |
| 15:57 | Carl Metropolitan | As an example. |
| 15:57 | Carl Metropolitan | Yeah... |
| 15:57 | Carl Metropolitan | Does anyone have any they can recommend to me? |
| 15:58 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | I have mainly followed Hunt and Freebie blogs. |
| 15:58 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | As clarification, the Oxbridge Guardian is a partially defunct publication/website about Oxbridge. |
| 15:58 | Carl Metropolitan | From the blog world, I have: Nalates’ Things & Stuff, Living in a Modem World, Featured News: A Group Blog by Secondlife, Second Life Newser, and New World Notes |
| 15:58 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | Inara Pey, Strawberry Singh are two of my favorite bloggers. And Lindal used to have a blog. I don't know if she still does. |
| 15:58 | JackCulinane | I don't read the blogs, but I think having some that are focussed on scripting and building and DJing might be nice to have |
| 15:59 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | this is the Guardian link: http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/guardian/ |
| 15:59 | Carl Metropolitan | I think Strawberry only blogs under the auspices of LL now that she works for them. |
| 15:59 | Lyban | Didn't some Lindens start a podcast this week? |
| 15:59 | Lyban | I think I read that somewhere |
| 15:59 | Carl Metropolitan | I will check out Lindal for a blog. |
| 15:59 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | Wordsmith would love to have an editor for the Guardian |
| 16:00 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | Yes - Lab Gab is the name of the podcast, I think |
| 16:00 | Carl Metropolitan | Thank you Larky |
| 16:00 | JackCulinane | A blog that focussed on furries or tinies might be good, too |
| 16:01 | Carl Metropolitan | Thank you for those suggestions. Please feel free to drop me notecards or samples of good SL magazines that are still being published. |
| 16:02 | Carl Metropolitan | Our hour is over. I will see you all next week! |
| 16:02 | Carl Metropolitan | Thank you Andrea. |
| 16:02 | Carl Metropolitan | And thank all of you for coming. |
| 16:02 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) | Thanks Andrea and Carl and all participants! |
| 16:02 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | nods thank you all for coming |
| 16:02 | Lyban Thank you | |
| 16:02 | Badass Fae (larkylouz) is offline. | |
| 16:02 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Bedtime for me. |
| 16:02 | Gronk Seriman | Thank you, everybody! |
| 16:02 | RainyDayRecess | Thank you Carl and Dean Andrea ;) |
| 16:03 | John (elijahjohnb) | i think i missed the meeting |
| 16:03 | Manisha (mrcmondrago) is offline. | |
| 16:03 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | high eb |
| 16:03 | JackCulinane | John, you missed the meeting |
| 16:03 | Carl Metropolitan | Yes. We ran from 3pm to 4pm SL time (Pacific Time) |
| 16:03 | Carl Metropolitan | Bye everyone! |
| 16:03 | Lyban | Goodbye |
| 16:03 | Jan Stroikavskoi | Okay im off home, Sig will be logging in soon! Thanks everyone and bye :) |
| 16:03 | RainyDayRecess | ;( |
| 16:03 | Jan Stroikavskoi | Hugs Rainy, hope we see you soon :) |
| 16:04 | Carl Metropolitan | And don't forget to check out the new freebie display |
| 16:04 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | calls her ride |
| 16:04 | John (elijahjohnb) | well, i am sure it was productive |
| 16:04 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Hold the fort |