CVL-Caledon Literary Group Transcript for 2020-07-09
Andre Norton — All Cats Are Gray
| 16:37 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Hi Max |
| 16:38 | Max Chatnoir | Hi, Wordsmith. |
| 16:38 | Max Chatnoir | I guess I have the right place. |
| 16:39 | Max Chatnoir | For some reason I had Stonesedge outdoor meeting center or something like that on my calendar. |
| 16:39 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | You do. I'm just waiting for things to rez |
| 16:40 | Max Chatnoir | OH, good! |
| 16:40 | Max Chatnoir | Thanks. |
| 16:40 | Max Chatnoir | Nice outfit. |
| 16:40 | Max Chatnoir | space age academic! |
| 16:41 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Outdoor seating around the corner, it seems |
| 16:42 | Cooper Udimo | Hiya Welcome! |
| 16:42 | Cooper Udimo | just setting things up |
| 16:43 | Max Chatnoir | That's OK. I came early to be sure I could find it. |
| 16:43 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Hi, Cooper. Same with me |
| 16:47 | Max Chatnoir | What are you reading these days, Val. |
| 16:47 | Max Chatnoir | or writing. :-) |
| 16:48 | Valibrarian Gregg | Tonight a read aloud! Starting at 5pm- CVL and Caledon present a Read Aloud at Cooper's Coffeehouse. Meet out back! Here's the story https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/29019 |
| 16:48 | Valibrarian Gregg | http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Lionheart%20Nala/59/159/28 |
| 16:48 | Valibrarian Gregg | and tomorrow I share the book I just wrote at the Nonprofit Commons :) 8:30am |
| 16:49 | Max Chatnoir | Let me get that on the calendar. |
| 16:51 | Max Chatnoir | Might run into my AC guy. |
| 16:52 | Max Chatnoir | But it's on the calendar. |
| 16:52 | Valibrarian Gregg | ok great |
| 16:53 | Cooper Udimo | Of course! Feel free to utilize it anytime |
| 16:53 | Max Chatnoir | Put me on the list1 |
| 16:53 | Cooper Udimo | Unfortunately I got into a new computer which does not have a mic yet so I'm unable to join :/ |
| 16:53 | Ololo Petya (olopierpa) | hallo |
| 16:53 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Hi, Welcome |
| 16:53 | Max Chatnoir | Hello, Ololo! |
| 16:53 | Cooper Udimo | Welcome! ㋡ |
| 16:53 | Ololo Petya (olopierpa) | ;) |
| 16:54 | Cooper Udimo | Love the avatar Ololo |
| 16:54 | Ololo Petya (olopierpa) | :) |
| 16:54 | KayCooper | waits for things to rez... |
| 16:55 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Hiya, Kay. |
| 16:55 | KayCooper | Hello :) |
| 16:55 | Cooper Udimo | Just putting down some extra seating ㋡ |
| 16:55 | KayCooper | yay! Ololo isn't just floating eyeballs anymore :) |
| 16:56 | Ololo Petya (olopierpa) | oh! |
| 16:56 | Ololo Petya (olopierpa) | must have been scary! |
| 16:56 | KayCooper | yes, it's nice that you have a proper head now |
| 16:56 | Cooper Udimo | Yes Max |
| 16:57 | Cooper Udimo | Meant to put out these refreshments earlier ;P |
| 16:58 | KayCooper | oooh snacks :) |
| 16:58 | Ololo Petya (olopierpa) | I have certainly read a few works from Andre Norton, but that was as a kid many many years ago. I don't remember if I read this one. |
| 16:59 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | This was written back when. Likely one of her earlier pieces, showing the pen-name Andre North. |
| 16:59 | (DS) Blackboard | A new fishing contest is starting! Catch as many fish as you can within 29 minutes. |
| 17:00 | Ololo Petya (olopierpa) | hmmm |
| 17:00 | KayCooper | I read a couple of her time traders novels a very long time ago |
| 17:01 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Can everyone hear voice? |
| 17:01 | Max Chatnoir | I think so. |
| 17:01 | Cooper Udimo | Yes ㋡ |
| 17:01 | Ololo Petya (olopierpa) | is anybody talking now? |
| 17:01 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | And are there others than Val, Max, and myself who would like to read. |
| 17:01 | Valibrarian Gregg | yes |
| 17:01 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | ? |
| 17:01 | Ololo Petya (olopierpa) | ok |
| 17:01 | KayCooper | I hear you |
| 17:01 | Max Chatnoir | Yes |
| 17:02 | Ludova (quippe.wylder) | yes |
| 17:02 | Ololo Petya (olopierpa) | I can't read, sorry |
| 17:02 | Ludova (quippe.wylder) | Love to |
| 17:02 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Val, Max, Ludova, & myself |
| 17:03 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Then, I'll start. |
| 17:03 | Max Chatnoir | And I'll follow Val. |
| 17:03 | Valibrarian Gregg | https://www.gutenberg.org/files/29019/29019-h/29019-h.htm |
| 17:04 | Andy Sullivan (thechemengineer) | Yes. |
| 17:04 | Max Chatnoir | Yes |
| 17:04 | TaTa (777tata777) | oh yes :) |
| 17:04 | Cooper Udimo | Sounds great! |
| 17:04 | KayCooper | yes |
| 17:05 | Valibrarian Gregg | Welcome George! |
| 17:05 | Valibrarian Gregg | Just started reading here: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/29019/29019-h/29019-h.htm |
| 17:05 | Cooper Udimo | Welcome George - feel free to grab a seat. There are refreshments and coffee on the table over there |
| 17:05 | Curious George | Hi, everyone |
| 17:05 | Valibrarian Gregg | Let us know if you want to read aloud or just listen :) |
| 17:05 | TaTa (777tata777) | waves hi |
| 17:05 | KayCooper | Hi George |
| 17:10 | Valibrarian Gregg | Ludo? Voice working? |
| 17:10 | TaTa (777tata777) | yes :) |
| 17:11 | KayCooper | nods |
| 17:11 | Valibrarian Gregg | Welcome Riddler! We are reading here https://www.gutenberg.org/files/29019/29019-h/29019-h.htm |
| 17:12 | Cooper Udimo | Welcome Riddling! Feel free to grab a seat. There are refreshments and coffee on the table next to you |
| 17:20 | Curious George | This is a fun gathering, but unfortunately I have to go, RL calls. Have fun, everyone! |
| 17:20 | KayCooper | Bye George |
| 17:20 | TaTa (777tata777) | yes :) |
| 17:20 | Cooper Udimo | Bye George - thanks for coming out! |
| 17:21 | Valibrarian Gregg | don't hear you now Ludo! |
| 17:21 | Valibrarian Gregg | Did Ludo's voice cut out? |
| 17:21 | Cooper Udimo | I do not |
| 17:21 | KayCooper | I don't either |
| 17:22 | Valibrarian Gregg | okay! she can catch up if it works! |
| 17:26 | Valibrarian Gregg | haha INteresting story! |
| 17:26 | Valibrarian Gregg | gray! world |
| 17:26 | KayCooper | Space cats rule |
| 17:26 | Valibrarian Gregg | The title....all cats are gray- makes sense now |
| 17:27 | Valibrarian Gregg | oh true! |
| 17:27 | Valibrarian Gregg | "And it kills—it must—when its curiosity is satisfied." Reminded me of CURIOSITY killed the cat! |
| 17:27 | Cooper Udimo | They totally can |
| 17:28 | KayCooper | That seems likely the inspiration for this story |
| 17:28 | KayCooper | I always wonder about the colors I can't see |
| 17:29 | Valibrarian Gregg | ooh an extra green gene! interesting |
| 17:29 | Cooper Udimo | Oh wow I never knew that |
| 17:29 | KayCooper | Ohh cool |
| 17:29 | Valibrarian Gregg | My husband LOVES colors so much (his clothes get wacky sometimes!) I always thought maybe he had more rods and cones than me or something! hehe |
| 17:30 | Cooper Udimo | I've met a few people who are color blind. Super interesting because they can still tell the color usually because it just looks different than what we see but they learn what color its "supposed" to be. |
| 17:31 | Valibrarian Gregg | The Giver by Lois Lowry (Newbery Award book)- the world is all black and white in the future- I love this book! |
| 17:31 | KayCooper | I'm not |
| 17:31 | Cooper Udimo | Wow - nearly 10%? That's incredible. |
| 17:32 | Andy Sullivan (thechemengineer) | I watch The Giver movie. Very good. |
| 17:32 | Valibrarian Gregg | I was not familiar with this author- Andre Alice Norton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Norton |
| 17:33 | Valibrarian Gregg | She was the first woman to be Gandalf Grand Master of Fantasy,[2] to be SFWA Grand Master,[3] and to be inducted by the Science Fiction and Fantasy Hall of Fame |
| 17:33 | KayCooper | Bye Ludova |
| 17:33 | Valibrarian Gregg | Good to see you Ludo |
| 17:33 | Cooper Udimo | Thank you so much for coming! |
| 17:33 | Cooper Udimo | Feel free to come by anytime ㋡ |
| 17:34 | Cooper Udimo | TaTa I couldn't hear you if you said something. |
| 17:34 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Couldn't make that out TaTa |
| 17:34 | Cooper Udimo | Is it very expensive? |
| 17:35 | Cooper Udimo | For unlimited books? :O |
| 17:35 | Cooper Udimo | lol |
| 17:35 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | There are also public-domain books and audio books under the Internet archive. |
| 17:36 | Cooper Udimo | Oh that sounds so much better than Kindle books |
| 17:36 | Cooper Udimo | It's upsetting that the Kindle versions of so many books are MORE expensive than the paper |
| 17:36 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Some of the Kindle books have optional audio versions. |
| 17:36 | Cooper Udimo | Not a problem TaTa! Thank you for coming by. |
| 17:36 | TaTa (777tata777) | thank you :) |
| 17:37 | KayCooper | Bye Tata |
| 17:37 | Cooper Udimo | Take care ㋡ |
| 17:38 | Valibrarian Gregg | https://www.igi-global.com/book/metamodernism-changing-literacy/243091 |
| 17:39 | Cooper Udimo | That is so true. I never thought of it like that. |
| 17:39 | KayCooper | yeah, that is very interesting |
| 17:40 | Cooper Udimo | "they don't make them like they used to" - is so damn true. |
| 17:40 | KayCooper | mhmm |
| 17:40 | KayCooper | I think with SL you build your own space more...that gives is a bit more value I think |
| 17:40 | Cooper Udimo | I've been embracing a more minimalist lifestyle lately. Trying to minimize my environmental impact - but the added benefit is you just have more time to focus on hobbies and relationships |
| 17:41 | Cooper Udimo | Really!?! |
| 17:41 | Valibrarian Gregg | yes Kay- sustainable (persistent) environments |
| 17:41 | Cooper Udimo | Absolutely. |
| 17:42 | Cooper Udimo | I wonder if SL in the next 5-10 years will bridge into Virtual Reality. |
| 17:42 | KayCooper | In a lot of ways |
| 17:42 | Cooper Udimo | Especially since they are being bought out |
| 17:42 | Valibrarian Gregg | Sci- fi sort of becomes real...but somehow different usually! |
| 17:42 | Cooper Udimo | Well, Linden Labs is |
| 17:42 | Cooper Udimo | if you haven't already heard: https://www.lindenlab.com/releases/linden_research_to_be_acquired |
| 17:42 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | https://smile.amazon.com/Anti-Intellectualism-American-Life-Richard-Hofstadter/dp/0394703170/ref=sr_1_1?crid=Z6ZUZD271GQQ&dchild=1&keywords=american+anti-intellectualism&qid=1594341697&sprefix=american+anti-in%2Caps%2C240&sr=8-1 |
| 17:43 | Cooper Udimo | Linden Labs is being bought by some investment firm. I haven't dug too deep into it. |
| 17:43 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | That's a link to a 1966 book on American anti-intellectualism |
| 17:43 | Cooper Udimo | From what I gather yes |
| 17:43 | Cooper Udimo | Published today. |
| 17:43 | KayCooper | Oh no...I hope this doesn't ruin it |
| 17:44 | Cooper Udimo | Linden Research, Inc. announced today it signed an agreement to be acquired by an investment group led by Randy Waterfield and Brad Oberwager. Closing of the acquisition is subject to regulatory approval by financial regulators in the U.S. related to Tilia Inc.’s status as a licensed money transmitter as well as other customary closing conditions. Upon closing, Mr. Waterfield and Mr. Oberwager will join the Board of Directors of Linden Research, Inc. “We’re excited for this new chapter to begin. We see this as an opportunity to continue growth and expansion for Second Life and our money services business Tilia,” says Linden Lab CEO Ebbe Altberg. “We're grateful for the ongoing support from our community, business partners and investors. Now more than ever, there is increased recognition of the value and utility of virtual worlds to bring people together for safe, shared, and social online experiences.” “Both the company and its virtual world community have a unique culture and creative energy |
| 17:44 | KayCooper | The danger is if they start to prioritize profit over the community... |
| 17:44 | Valibrarian Gregg | hhmm maybe some big changes ahead |
| 17:44 | Cooper Udimo | I mean SL is moving to the cloud - so one of their most massive costs - server space - won't be there anymore. So I think SL is definitely here to stay |
| 17:44 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | I agree Kay. |
| 17:44 | Cooper Udimo | So true Kay |
| 17:45 | Cooper Udimo | I hope they release their "intentions" soon. |
| 17:45 | Andy Sullivan (thechemengineer) | The investment group must see an opportunity to monetize SL and see more value than Linden sees. |
| 17:45 | KayCooper | I hope it stays for good |
| 17:45 | Cooper Udimo | Same! |
| 17:45 | Cooper Udimo | Could you imagine being able to buy a sim for say, $100 a month lol |
| 17:46 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | It could give them more stability in finances. |
| 17:46 | Cooper Udimo | I'll be in RL class :/ |
| 17:46 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | LL at one point cut out the educational discount. That motivated moving to open sim. |
| 17:47 | Cooper Udimo | I remember when they did that! |
| 17:48 | Valibrarian Gregg | ooh Quantum Mechanics? love it!! |
| 17:48 | Valibrarian Gregg | qubits! |
| 17:48 | Cooper Udimo | 2020 needs to just be over. Hah |
| 17:49 | KayCooper | Thank you :) |
| 17:49 | Andy Sullivan (thechemengineer) | Thank you everyone. |
| 17:49 | Cooper Udimo | Thank you all so much! ㋡ |
| 17:49 | Cooper Udimo | Same to you! ㋡ |
| 17:49 | Cooper Udimo | ;) |
| 17:49 | Valibrarian Gregg | take care all! |
| 17:49 | Valibrarian Gregg | bye for now |
| 17:49 | Ololo Petya (olopierpa) | Thank you! See you soon |
| 17:49 | KayCooper | bye :) |