CVL-Caledon Literary Group Transcript for 2019-10-17

Ray Bradbury — The April Witch

16:51 Phrynne hello Val, hi Kay
16:51 KayCooper Hi everyone :)
16:51 Valibrarian Gregg Hi all :)
16:52 KayCooper I'm in the process of getting my dinner together, so I might be a couple minutes late...so don't mind me if I don't respond right away
16:52 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hi, Kay
16:52 Valibrarian Gregg ok ty Kay
16:53 KayCooper Didn't time things well today :/
16:54 Wordsmith Jarvinen There is a short discussion "nudge" in the figurine in front of me.
16:54 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome Suemoon.
16:54 Suemoon Magic Thanks
16:54 Valibrarian Gregg Hi Suemoon :)
16:55 Suemoon Magic Hi Val, thanks for the tp
16:56 Valibrarian Gregg Sound great Wordsmith
16:59 Cychwynn hello all
16:59 Valibrarian Gregg Welcome all....good to see everyone
16:59 Suemoon Magic
16:59 Laurali Moon (lauralimoon) Hello to all
16:59 Valibrarian Gregg Wordsmith will begin soon :) There is a notecard in the gold vase object in front of him
17:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Cychwynn, you did head this way. :)
17:00 Cychwynn yes :)
17:00 Cychwynn finished up my other conversation and ran over
17:00 Cychwynn ;)
17:02 Suemoon Magic yes
17:02 Valibrarian Gregg This will be a read aloud of THE WITCH by Ray Bradbury
17:02 Valibrarian Gregg http://lossofsoul.com/LIFE_IS/Story/Bradbury-en.htm
17:03 Phrynne I'd like to read but I don't know if my voice is working.
17:03 Valibrarian Gregg If you want to read -type your name!
17:04 Valibrarian Gregg Valibrarian (I will read)
17:04 Wordsmith Jarvinen Wordsmith (reader)
17:04 Cychwynn I am terribly sorry I'm going to have to skip, i have no working mic ATM
17:04 Phrynne I have been trying to
17:05 Laurali Moon (lauralimoon) I have a new headset... trying to figure it out
17:05 Phrynne I don't have a separate microphone.
17:05 Phrynne it's not working.
17:05 Valibrarian Gregg Looks like just us two?
17:06 Valibrarian Gregg anyone else want to read?
17:06 Phrynne I will try to locate a microphone in the house. go ahead and start without me.
17:06 Suemoon Magic Sorry, my house is noisy - football
17:06 Suemoon Magic I hear you
17:07 Wordsmith Jarvinen I hear you
17:07 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yay
17:07 Valibrarian Gregg So Wordsmith, Val, and Laurali will start- Phrynne can join if voice works!
17:07 Valibrarian Gregg Is there anyone who cannot hear? Soup?
17:07 Valibrarian Gregg this will be in voice
17:07 Savage Taurus I can hear
17:08 Suemoon Magic very soft
17:08 Cychwynn I can hear, though some pretty softly
17:08 Soup Jonson Don't mind me Val. I will fight my technical war in silence!
17:09 Cychwynn I don't seem to see a slider, but I'll be fine :) thank you
17:09 Wordsmith Jarvinen You can turn up voice at the upper right or under preferences. Both the master volume and the relative voice volume
17:09 Cychwynn :) thanks
17:09 Valibrarian Gregg It is under nearby chat on the far left- that is where you choose the person who is speaking to slide up volume
17:11 Suemoon Magic y
17:36 Wordsmith Jarvinen And there we have it.
17:36 KayCooper nicely done
17:36 Valibrarian Gregg clap clap! Ray Bradbury :)
17:36 Phrynne very nice!
17:36 Savage Taurus claps
17:36 Soup Jonson Bravo
17:36 KayCooper *•.¸'*•.¸ ★ ¸.•*´¸.•*
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17:36 KayCooper ¸.•*`¸.•*´ ★ `*•.¸`*•.¸
17:36 Suemoon Magic Thank you readers
17:36 Cychwynn Clap!! very well read, very interesting
17:36 Valibrarian Gregg Cool story
17:36 Wordsmith Jarvinen Full of images in words; also full of manipulation without consent.
17:37 Soup Jonson Bradbury is being read at the Prison a Book Discussion with University students and the men
17:37 Soup Jonson Very good
17:37 Valibrarian Gregg and the concept of "becoming" another being- in another "house" body
17:37 Laurali Moon (lauralimoon) I didn't know Bradbury wrote anything like that
17:37 Savage Taurus beautifully written
17:37 Suemoon Magic She can be a "fly on the wall" ㋡
17:37 Laurali Moon (lauralimoon) I shall have read more
17:38 Valibrarian Gregg Wordsmith- what did you mean by this: "The timing of the story is off by half a year but the witch theme is right on."
17:38 Savage Taurus taking on different forms is a bit like we do here in SL
17:38 Laurali Moon (lauralimoon) so true
17:38 Suemoon Magic April v. October
17:38 Phrynne It's called the April witch.
17:38 Valibrarian Gregg good point Savage- an avatar can inhabit any form!!
17:39 Valibrarian Gregg oh I see- the title!! yes ;)
17:39 Laurali Moon (lauralimoon) and we inhabit the avatar
17:39 Phrynne I'm wondering what year he wrote that...
17:39 Valibrarian Gregg just like Cecy- we can take a different form
17:39 Wordsmith Jarvinen It's almost Samhain, Fall, while she is an April witch. But I felt it brought something across the veil that wasn't about scaring and death.
17:39 KayCooper although we don't have to manipulate others in order to do it
17:39 Laurali Moon (lauralimoon) it was lovely
17:39 Valibrarian Gregg written in 1952
17:39 Valibrarian Gregg I think
17:39 Savage Taurus also people make themselves attractive to have relationships they couldn't in RL
17:39 Valibrarian Gregg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_April_Witch
17:40 Phrynne just found a link that says it was published in 1952
17:40 Wordsmith Jarvinen If I remember right, that was from 1952-1953.
17:40 Suemoon Magic I wonder where all of the non "ordinary" folks are and why she can't look there to fall in love.
17:41 Cychwynn I very much enjoyed the concept of being able to inhabit anything, makes me wonder what life would look like through the eyes of a different creature.
17:41 Valibrarian Gregg Another story I love by Bradbury is "The Electric Grandmother"- the grandmother is a robot :)
17:41 KayCooper She has parents so it seems that there are others like herself out there
17:41 Savage Taurus funny how we are concerned about the consent of the person, but not the frog or cricket
17:41 KayCooper good point
17:41 Laurali Moon (lauralimoon) perhaps she should attend Hogwarts? :)
17:41 Phrynne Not being able to become attached to someone outside one's family group is a theme in fairy tales
17:42 Savage Taurus imperious curse
17:42 Savage Taurus I wonder if Cecy's last name is Cosby :P
17:42 Valibrarian Gregg yes Phrynne- and the idea of "giving up" power for mortality (if we fall in love with a mere human). I read a book like that when I was really young and it fascinated me
17:43 Wordsmith Jarvinen Is a frog able to give consent? People aren't always in a state in which they are deemed able to give consent.
17:43 Valibrarian Gregg lol Savage!
17:43 Savage Taurus imagine having your body taken over by a higher being. Would be terrifying
17:43 KayCooper so in general, it isn't really appropriate to use any living thing
17:44 Wordsmith Jarvinen I recently watched a movie (Josh Whedon film) in which two people were linked via there senses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Your_Eyes_(2014_film)
17:44 Savage Taurus ooh
17:44 Laurali Moon (lauralimoon) interesting, I'll have to find that
17:44 Cychwynn oh interesting
17:44 Wordsmith Jarvinen It's on Amazon
17:44 Savage Taurus thanks
17:45 Savage Taurus I like Whedon
17:45 Laurali Moon (lauralimoon) I like Josh Whedon
17:46 Cychwynn me 2
17:46 Savage Taurus when people say "the devil made me do it" maybe they mean an April witch
17:46 Laurali Moon (lauralimoon) alas, I must be off... thank you all, was fun
17:46 Savage Taurus bye Laurali
17:46 Valibrarian Gregg I found it interesting that Ann felt okay about it! In fact, she asks Tom to go visit Cecy?
17:46 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thanks for reading, Laurali
17:46 Valibrarian Gregg Laurali- ty- you were a great reader!
17:46 Phrynne I think that was Cecy's influence, Val
17:46 Suemoon Magic Didn't Cecy make her do that?
17:46 KayCooper bye Laurali
17:46 Laurali Moon (lauralimoon) bye
17:46 Savage Taurus that was Cecy asking him to visit her
17:47 KayCooper I thought Cecy did that too
17:47 Valibrarian Gregg oh yes- of course- Cecy overpowered her!!
17:47 Wordsmith Jarvinen Ann under control at that point.
17:47 Valibrarian Gregg that is the creepy part!
17:47 Phrynne which makes me wonder if she'd get into Tom's head if he does come to see her
17:47 Wordsmith Jarvinen Possessed
17:47 Cychwynn I also have to go, its coming up to 3 at night for me, thank you for the amazing reading :)
17:47 Cychwynn and good night all
17:48 Savage Taurus yea that would make more sense. Just possess him and make him come
17:48 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thanks for coming, Cychwynn
17:48 KayCooper night Cychwynn
17:48 Valibrarian Gregg yeah- Wordsmith- possessed - creepy
17:48 Savage Taurus night Cychwynn
17:48 Valibrarian Gregg goodnight Cychwynn
17:48 Valibrarian Gregg I really like this format of read aloud! I hope we can do it again
17:49 Valibrarian Gregg because it makes it easy for anyone to participate as they want....and no prep needed!
17:49 Savage Taurus its works well for a short story like this
17:49 Wordsmith Jarvinen I'll look for some more that work with this format.
17:49 Valibrarian Gregg Next month will be the 2nd THURS- NOV 14th at 5pm over at CVL
17:49 Valibrarian Gregg Wordsmith- can you send me a link for the next one?
17:49 Savage Taurus I do wonder why she would ose her magic if she fell in love
17:50 Savage Taurus lose
17:50 Valibrarian Gregg well- I think she would have to choose to remain in ONE body and to "die" as a human
17:50 Wordsmith Jarvinen A common theme, loss of powers in crossing some boundary.
17:50 Savage Taurus I wish he would have explained that better
17:51 Savage Taurus but the imagery of his prose was really lovely
17:51 Valibrarian Gregg true- would have had even greater impact...to understand the necessary sacrifice
17:51 Wordsmith Jarvinen The same choice occurred in Lord of the Rings.
17:51 Savage Taurus with Arwyn?
17:52 Phrynne yes
17:52 Valibrarian Gregg and in the class children's book "Tuck Everlasting"
17:52 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes. To remain elven or choose to be human.
17:52 Valibrarian Gregg to drink the water meant you were "stuck on the wheel of life" at a certain age...never to experience all of life
17:54 Valibrarian Gregg I enjoyed hearing the story in voices even more than reading it in silence
17:54 Savage Taurus I enjoyed both
17:54 Savage Taurus I'm glad I read it ahead of time
17:54 Wordsmith Jarvinen Reading aloud adds voice inflections.
17:54 Valibrarian Gregg something about the various perspectives
17:54 Valibrarian Gregg He is an exceptional writer for sure
17:55 Valibrarian Gregg I have gotten more interested in Science Fiction since I have been in SL :)
17:55 Savage Taurus that sort of flowery prose is looked down upon by some modern writers and editors
17:55 Valibrarian Gregg I mean I liked it before but find it more interesting now
17:55 Suemoon Magic I read many of his short stories as a kid but now when I read them as an adult they say different things
17:56 Valibrarian Gregg yes Savage- it could be perceived as "sappy" (and I have low tolerance for sap!!)
17:56 Savage Taurus yes I think the best literature cant be fully appreciated until you live a little
17:56 Valibrarian Gregg but his creativity made it more cool than sappy
17:56 KayCooper I don't mind fancier prose as long as it isn't so fancy it makes the reading a lot of work
17:57 Wordsmith Jarvinen And we haven't had that tonality before.
17:57 Savage Taurus yes its very different from sci fi. This was romantic fantasy
17:57 Valibrarian Gregg rich vocabulary can sometimes be worth the effort though- I know what you mean
17:57 Valibrarian Gregg true Savage...but that line between science fiction and fantasy is often blurry
17:57 KayCooper I just don't want to feel like I'm translating another language or having to decode it lol
17:58 Phrynne It's still English, still the same language, just a little bigger.
17:58 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes, keep it understandable.
17:58 Savage Taurus thats often what literary fiction is. Its the stuff that English professors love
17:58 KayCooper Basically, it can't interfere with the story
17:59 Phrynne I think sometimes we are impoverished by the way stories are written these days; we have lost the texture, the smells, the feel of the world in the story. Bradbury gives us that.
17:59 Valibrarian Gregg In my physical library today- we read aloud (in a circle just like this!)- The Legend of Sleepy Hollow....and I had a couple adults who struggled with the vocabulary!
17:59 Valibrarian Gregg written in 1820
17:59 Valibrarian Gregg It is awesome! a great ghost story
17:59 KayCooper I have a copy of that one
17:59 Savage Taurus lol I attend a poetry workshop and the hosts often mispronounce words
18:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Did everyone get the notecard in the figurine, who wants one? I'm thinking of putting another piece of October writing in it before we disperse.
18:00 Valibrarian Gregg and that's okay! but it is interesting how the way we speak and write has changed so much since 1820
18:00 Valibrarian Gregg TY Wordsmith! I look forward to next month :)
18:01 Phrynne Take out the computer metaphors, take out the modern political and sports ones -- see what's left.
18:01 Valibrarian Gregg Modern writers don't include page after page of description
18:01 Phrynne Maybe some of them should.
18:02 Valibrarian Gregg fun to read old literature sometimes!
18:02 Suemoon Magic 11 years ago or so we had a book discussion at cvl about Fahrenheit 451 and I let my 13 year old son use one of my alts to come into SL to discuss a favorite story of his. He had fun.
18:02 Valibrarian Gregg awesome Suemoon!!!
18:02 KayCooper That's great
18:02 Wordsmith Jarvinen Okay, I just put a piece called "Too Early" in the figurine. It's from Aldo Leopold's "Sand County Almanac".
18:02 Valibrarian Gregg wonderful book and still relevant (maybe even more than back then!)
18:02 Savage Taurus got it
18:03 KayCooper I've read that one too
18:03 KayCooper been a while though
18:03 Wordsmith Jarvinen The entry is from October, and has been a favorite of mine
18:04 Valibrarian Gregg TY Wordsmith
18:04 Suemoon Magic Thank you Wordsmith
18:04 KayCooper Thanks Word
18:04 Suemoon Magic I need to say goodnight
18:04 Phrynne thanks Word
18:04 Wordsmith Jarvinen It's not sci-fi, just thoughts from October.
18:05 Valibrarian Gregg well- goodnight all!!
18:05 Savage Taurus night Sue
18:05 Valibrarian Gregg See you next time if not before!
18:05 Savage Taurus night everyone
18:05 KayCooper Thanks for everything :)
18:05 Savage Taurus this was a good story
18:05 Wordsmith Jarvinen Til again.
18:05 Valibrarian Gregg /me waves bye
18:05 KayCooper See you all next time