Caledon Community Meeting for 2025-03-08
| 13:48 | Nyree Rain | waves to Word |
| 13:49 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Waves back at Nyree |
| 13:50 | Larky (larkylouz) | Hiya Word, Hello all |
| 13:50 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Good afternoon. :) |
| 13:50 | Larky (larkylouz) | Hi NeoGuv |
| 13:51 | Nyree Rain | Hi, Larky. |
| 13:51 | Larky (larkylouz) | Hi Nyree. Gorgeous dress. One of yours? |
| 13:51 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Hi, Larky :) |
| 13:52 | Shu-Ho (shuho.lane) | Hi |
| 13:53 | Nyree Rain | Yes Larky, an Oldie I haven't had out in the shop for years, but I did put it on for St. Pat's this year. |
| 13:54 | Nyree Rain | The blue version was a Steam Hunt prize MANY years ago. |
| 13:54 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Hi, Kay :) |
| 13:54 | Nyree Rain | waves to Kay |
| 13:54 | KayCooper | hi hi |
| 13:54 | Larky (larkylouz) | Hi Kay |
| 13:55 | Nyree Rain | Kay, you look more than ready for Spring. |
| 13:55 | KayCooper | love the rocking chair, Nyree |
| 13:55 | Larky (larkylouz) | Hi Shu-Ho. Welcome |
| 13:55 | KayCooper | hehe yes |
| 13:55 | KayCooper | Hi Owlie |
| 13:55 | Shu-Ho (shuho.lane) | thanks |
| 13:55 | Nyree Rain | Thanks Kay, best chair I could find in my inventory to go with the dress. lol. |
| 13:55 | Larky (larkylouz) | Hi Aury. |
| 13:55 | KayCooper | Hi Aury |
| 13:55 | Aury (aurysa) | hello everyone! |
| 13:56 | KayCooper | Hi Ravelli |
| 13:56 | Owlie Fairelander | Hi Kay! |
| 13:56 | Owlie Fairelander | Greetings all |
| 13:56 | Nyree Rain stretches out a hand to pat the adorable dragon next to her. | |
| 13:56 | Ravelli Ormstein | Hello everybody |
| 13:56 | Nyree Rain | Hey, Owlie. |
| 13:56 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Hi Owlie and Ravelli and Aury |
| 13:56 | Larky (larkylouz) | Hi Ravelli |
| 13:57 | KayCooper | Hi Tora Hi Sandling Hi Andrea |
| 13:57 | Sandling Honey | Eyooo :) |
| 13:57 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Your computer may be running a little hot Andrea. |
| 13:57 | Larky (larkylouz) | lol |
| 13:57 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | hiya Kay! hiya Sandling! hiya Andrea! |
| 13:57 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | gives Neo a burning sensation |
| 13:58 | Francesca Alva | hello all |
| 13:58 | Owlie Fairelander | Did anyone bring marshmallows? |
| 13:58 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | Andrea, i've got a fire extinguisher handy, if you need assistance? |
| 13:58 | KayCooper | lol |
| 13:58 | Ravelli Ormstein | Hello Lady Alva |
| 13:58 | KayCooper | Hi Francesca |
| 13:58 | Larky (larkylouz) shouts | Hi Tora |
| 13:58 | Francesca Alva | ㋡ |
| 13:58 | Shu-Ho (shuho.lane) | Hi Tora |
| 13:58 | KayCooper | Andrea will keep us all warm |
| 13:58 | Ravelli Ormstein | Huhu Andrea |
| 13:58 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) shouts | hiya Larky!!!! |
| 13:58 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | hey!! hiya Shu me ol' chum! |
| 13:58 | Owlie Fairelander | The fire seems to be spreading. |
| 13:59 | Samm Florian | Sorry 'bout the coincidence of timing, Guv. |
| 13:59 | Francesca Alva throws some absinthe on hte fire to extinguish it | |
| 13:59 | NeoBokrug Elytis | No worries! |
| 13:59 | Sandling Honey | \o/ |
| 13:59 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | fire |
| 13:59 | NeoBokrug Elytis | They'll still be around. |
| 13:59 | Owlie Fairelander | It's a good way to make sure everyone knows about the hunt, Samm |
| 13:59 | Francesca Alva | aaagh |
| 13:59 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Can we not? |
| 13:59 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | ummm ow! |
| 13:59 | Aury (aurysa) | this is fine |
| 14:00 | Katie (katie.canningham) | Hi Neo and Sandling and Owlie and Francesca and Shu-Ho and Tora and John and Larky and Wordsmith and Andrea and Kay and Aury and Ravelli and RudyB and Samm and Nyree! |
| 14:00 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Good afternoon everyone, and welcome! |
| 14:00 | Katie (katie.canningham) | I hope I didn't miss anybody! |
| 14:00 | KayCooper | Hi Katie |
| 14:00 | Owlie Fairelander | Hi Katie |
| 14:00 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Sandling will be playing music for us while we chat, as Sandling does. |
| 14:00 | John Laughing (thesoundofonemanlaughing) | Hello Katie :) |
| 14:00 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) whispers | *waves ferociously at Katie |
| 14:00 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Hi Katie :) |
| 14:01 | NeoBokrug Elytis | As per the usual, we'll talk about Caledon and New Toulouse, with breaks in between my rambling for questions and comments. :) |
| 14:01 | Owlie Fairelander | greetings to all (in case ya missed it from earlier) |
| 14:01 | Larky (larkylouz) | Hi Katie, Hey Beth! |
| 14:01 | Katie (katie.canningham) | Hi Beth! |
| 14:01 | NeoBokrug Elytis | First order of business, The Caledon Rose hunt is on as of a minute ago! |
| 14:01 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | Hi Larky! And Sam and Katie! |
| 14:02 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | woooooo! |
| 14:02 | Katie (katie.canningham) | YAY!!!! |
| 14:02 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I am still new to the whole idea, but I am aware of it. It is something I want to contribute to. |
| 14:03 | NeoBokrug Elytis | In time, I may have my own devious machinations to contribute :) |
| 14:03 | Katie (katie.canningham) | is there a live website for the rose hunt? |
| 14:03 | Samm Florian | Next year is Caledon's 20th anniversary so we're hoping to make it special. |
| 14:03 | Owlie Fairelander | Exploding roses next year! |
| 14:03 | Nyree Rain | Yes, we were workng on ideas for next years hunt last night. |
| 14:04 | Katie (katie.canningham) | cool! |
| 14:04 | Samm Florian | There's already an exploding rose out there this year.... |
| 14:04 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Last month we turned 19 :) I wanted to thank everyone here who hosted events and parties. :) |
| 14:04 | Owlie Fairelander | Nice! Can't wait to find it, Samm |
| 14:05 | NeoBokrug Elytis | ( I know this song, I used it in a video. ) |
| 14:05 | Sandling Honey | I might've accidentally written this song even! |
| 14:05 | Sandling Honey | ;) |
| 14:05 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Haha yeah! |
| 14:05 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Anyway. |
| 14:05 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | YAH!! |
| 14:05 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Come on brain. |
| 14:06 | John Laughing (thesoundofonemanlaughing) | The stream is very nice |
| 14:06 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I got to attend a few events, and it's always a hoot. |
| 14:06 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) whispers | Sandling wrote this, John :-D |
| 14:06 | NeoBokrug Elytis | New Toulouse is turning 17 today! There's a party just after. |
| 14:06 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Just after this meeting. |
| 14:06 | John Laughing (thesoundofonemanlaughing) | Nicely done Sandling :) |
| 14:06 | Katie (katie.canningham) | *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*Yayyyyyyy!!!!*:-.,_,.-:*'``'* |
| 14:06 | Francesca Alva | *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*Yayyyyyyy!!!!*:-.,_,.-:*'``'* |
| 14:07 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Let me reposition how I sit, too many typos at the moment. |
| 14:07 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Posture is important! |
| 14:08 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Ravelli made some whole day cycles for Caledon Oxbridge, and we're going to adopt them throughout Caledon. Some of you may have noticed a problem I overlooked. |
| 14:08 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I will be fixing that, but -- the days work with PBR now, and look better in general than SL defaults. |
| 14:08 | John Laughing (thesoundofonemanlaughing) | Nice :) |
| 14:08 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I believe the mornings are a bit foggy, which is nice. |
| 14:08 | KayCooper | oooh love that |
| 14:09 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Right now the thing I overlooked is the water, and I'll be fixing that soon. Everything is pitch black. |
| 14:09 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | i thought it was just me |
| 14:09 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | oh yah, quintessential morning vibe, foggy mornings |
| 14:09 | Katie (katie.canningham) | nope, not just you |
| 14:10 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I hope to bring a few nice things from The Wastelands here. I have some scripts that "tweak" the day cycles to account for historical RL cloudiness, moon phases, and other such stuff. A very "lite" weather system. No rain or snow, but atmospherically, it is applied. |
| 14:11 | Nyree Rain | Is that why it is darker now inside buildings, or did that just come with PBR? |
| 14:11 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Moon phases are real cool when you notice them. |
| 14:11 | NeoBokrug Elytis | That just came with PBR and a mix of the EEP setting, you can set up reflection probes to kind of fix that. |
| 14:12 | Katie (katie.canningham) | darkness is buildings is a PBR addition |
| 14:12 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Using indoor illumination goes a long way with PBR now, especially if you set up reflection probes. |
| 14:12 | Nyree Rain | What a pain. |
| 14:12 | Nyree Rain | oh well |
| 14:13 | NeoBokrug Elytis | It can look super amazing. There was an article all about it. Let me dig it up quick. |
| 14:13 | John Laughing (thesoundofonemanlaughing) | I would prefer simplifying to making things more complex |
| 14:13 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Long link is long. |
| 14:13 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | X-D! |
| 14:13 | Larky (larkylouz) | If anyone has the needed skills, classes on how to do those things would be welcome at Oxbridge. You could even do a pop-up class or one that meets less often than once a week, I suspect! |
| 14:14 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | i can take a look into it. i was wanting to anyway |
| 14:14 | Nyree Rain | I agree John. I just want to be able to see what I'm working on, be it switching out the vendors in my shop or creating a new piece of jewelry. |
| 14:14 | Zaida Gearbox (zaida.gearbox) | yeah i'm thinking lights are going to become a BIG thing ISL |
| 14:14 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Ravelli made the day cycles, and he's working to improve them more. :) |
| 14:14 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | you suspect correctly, Larky |
| 14:14 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | and Mr Ravelli is an extremely capable bear :-) |
| 14:14 | Larky (larkylouz) | :^) |
| 14:14 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | the future so bright...i gotta wear shades... i gotta where shades shades |
| 14:15 | Nyree Rain | All that extra lighting and reflection probes cost prims. So if you are tight on LI you will need to remove something to add them. |
| 14:15 | Elvira Mistwood | Hello all mildly went afk after arriving |
| 14:15 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Occupancy in Caledon jut fell a little over the last month, while New Toulouse skyrocketed. |
| 14:16 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | What's the attraction in New Toulouse? |
| 14:16 | NeoBokrug Elytis | New Toulouse still has quite a bit of land available, but it's no longer in the red. |
| 14:16 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | it's a swamp |
| 14:16 | Zaida Gearbox (zaida.gearbox) | it's different |
| 14:16 | NeoBokrug Elytis | 1920s Louisiana, and swamp. |
| 14:16 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | ah |
| 14:16 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | zombies |
| 14:16 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Plus, just working to get things in motion again goes a long way. |
| 14:16 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | we need more zombies in Caledon |
| 14:16 | Francesca Alva | bootleg liquor |
| 14:17 | KayCooper | everyone loves a swamp |
| 14:17 | KayCooper | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 14:17 | Zaida Gearbox (zaida.gearbox) | and at least on shotgun row people seem to put more effort into their landscaping |
| 14:17 | Samm Florian | The bayou is very atmospheric. |
| 14:17 | Zaida Gearbox (zaida.gearbox) | it is |
| 14:17 | Katie (katie.canningham) | better than a swamp - a bayou |
| 14:17 | Larky (larkylouz) | It's a really fun place to explore. And there are still available parcels |
| 14:17 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | lots of mosquitoes |
| 14:17 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | and gaters |
| 14:17 | John Laughing (thesoundofonemanlaughing) | I like being homeless :) |
| 14:17 | Katie (katie.canningham) | you can come visit any time tho! |
| 14:17 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | it has the best homey natural feel! New Toulouse is such a welcoming place! |
| 14:18 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | they have better public landscaping |
| 14:18 | Owlie Fairelander | The Head Collectors League fits more in New T then it would in Caledon. |
| 14:18 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I have 3 shared property spaces that I need to convert to single tenant spaces, and try to keep the old builds. So that's what I've been working on. Rebuilding buildings to work while anchored to land, and within property boundaries. |
| 14:18 | Francesca Alva | ㋡ |
| 14:18 | KayCooper | Hi Jorge |
| 14:18 | Jorge Serapis | *waves* |
| 14:18 | Katie (katie.canningham) | my bayou plot is going to be the home of the Old Witch of the Bayou |
| 14:18 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Once I am done with that, I'm going to focus on transportation and Caledon Quest. |
| 14:19 | Katie (katie.canningham) | *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*Yayyyyyyy!!!!*:-.,_,.-:*'``'* |
| 14:19 | Sandling Honey | Thankees :D |
| 14:19 | NeoBokrug Elytis | There was a bit more work than I anticipated with New Toulouse, so a bit more delay. |
| 14:19 | Owlie Fairelander | Katie, you will have to give tours! |
| 14:19 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I did take time this week, to build a new Canal in Caledon II. |
| 14:19 | Katie (katie.canningham) | it's a small plot so tours will be short but sweet! |
| 14:19 | Francesca Alva | ooh Katie - sounds great |
| 14:19 | Francesca Alva | welkies |
| 14:19 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I altered some parcels down there, a few I had been holding on to for just such an opportunity. |
| 14:19 | Katie (katie.canningham) | O.O |
| 14:19 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | beware the gaters goats and squirrels around my tree house |
| 14:19 | NeoBokrug Elytis | There's a new bridge where an old Pad used to be. |
| 14:20 | Owlie Fairelander | Good, the canals do need some work. |
| 14:20 | Samm Florian roots for more tunnels. :) | |
| 14:20 | NeoBokrug Elytis | That Canal will need further work later, but for now, it's serviceable. |
| 14:20 | Katie (katie.canningham) | tunnels would be cool |
| 14:20 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I really want to redo the tunnels that are around, but using experience teleports to put them in the sky. |
| 14:20 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | Tunnels are wonderful. Caledon used to have quite a network |
| 14:20 | Katie (katie.canningham) | I will respect your tree-house! |
| 14:20 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | there's a historical precedent for tunnels. during prohibition, bootleggers would often build tunnels between buildings |
| 14:20 | Owlie Fairelander | Neo's system in Wastelands for tunnels and such would be cool here. |
| 14:20 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Which sort of naturally brings me to the next topic. |
| 14:21 | Samm Florian bows | |
| 14:21 | Katie (katie.canningham) | there are tunnels in the Wastelands??? woow!!! |
| 14:21 | Katie (katie.canningham) | I so haven't explored there nearly enough! |
| 14:21 | NeoBokrug Elytis | In The Wastelands we have what we call "The dark layer". It is an elevation range that is naturally dark. No lights, no nothing. The only form of illumination is what you place. We build all our basements and cave systems at that elevation |
| 14:22 | Owlie Fairelander | Well, might be more caves or some such in Wastelands. I was thinking of when I played the one hunt/game/whatever it was for halloWeen when Neo first was guv. |
| 14:22 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | Ooh |
| 14:22 | NeoBokrug Elytis | So, my question for you all is: Do you think Caledon could benefit from a "Dark Layer" as well, at the elevation range of 3000m to 3500m? |
| 14:23 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | if it doesn't take away from anything or cause problems, it would be a nice option |
| 14:23 | Owlie Fairelander | I think a dark layer is a good idea, but you'll have some work with the skyboxes and such folks have up. |
| 14:23 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | Intriguing. |
| 14:23 | NeoBokrug Elytis | We could then use experience teleports, or plain old teleports, to have say... a door in a basement of your home, teleport you to a place on the dark layer that's a family crypt or something. |
| 14:23 | Mari Moonbeam | We have a lot of skyboxes in that range now, would they need to move to not be dark when they TP home/ |
| 14:23 | Nyree Rain | That would be tough on me- I think I'd have to move a bunch of permanent builds, and not sure I'd have the room. |
| 14:23 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Yes, folks would have to move if they're in the 3000m to 3500m range. Up or down. |
| 14:24 | Owlie Fairelander | is the height limit still 4096? |
| 14:24 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | Maybe you could do a trial on one sim where people are really interested |
| 14:24 | NeoBokrug Elytis | There's a couple building tricks I use. In the build menu, if you have something at 3126.5 You could simply do - 500 to it. |
| 14:24 | Mari Moonbeam | Can't folks set their parcel to dark at that height if they want it? |
| 14:24 | Samm Florian | How involved would it be to add one of these portals? Would I need you to set it up? |
| 14:24 | Nyree Rain | I've got a LOT of stacked skybox ballrooms, some of which would be extremely difficult to move and might be in that range. |
| 14:24 | NeoBokrug Elytis | So in tbe build menu Z box, it would be 3126.5 - 500 |
| 14:24 | NeoBokrug Elytis | There is a lot of tedium |
| 14:25 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Let me scroll back to answer questions |
| 14:25 | Owlie Fairelander | do you need prims to set up the dark layer or is that done in the environment settings? |
| 14:25 | Nyree Rain | Especially if a build is in hundreds of pieces. |
| 14:25 | NeoBokrug Elytis | [14:24:16] Owlie Fairelander: it the height limit still 4096? Build height limit is still that |
| 14:25 | NeoBokrug Elytis | [14:24:31] Mari Moonbeam: Can't folks set their parcel to dark at that height if they want it? I believe that parcel EEP override still exists here. |
| 14:26 | NeoBokrug Elytis | [14:24:32] Samm Florian: How involved would it be to add one of these portals? Would I need you to set it up? I will offer the same thing I offer to Wastelanders: Own the parcel for at least a year, have your start and end destinations done, invite me temporarily to a group that the land is set to, and I will set it up for you. It will still be my 2 prims |
| 14:27 | NeoBokrug Elytis | [14:25:32] Owlie Fairelander: do you need prims to set up the dark layer or is that done in the environment settings? It is set at region level environment settings. |
| 14:27 | Owlie Fairelander | Okay, so --can you set it up on Rose --the dark layer, and set up a cave or something so folks can see what it is like to have it. |
| 14:28 | Katie (katie.canningham) | I can see the uses for Halloween |
| 14:28 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Since parcels still have override powers in Caledon (where they don't in The Wastelands) The dark layer works for my purposes if I wanted to set up tunnels or move the tunnels in VIC city to the sky. |
| 14:28 | Samm Florian | Requires the parcel to have a group attached to it. Makes sense. |
| 14:28 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Not deeded, just set Samm |
| 14:29 | Samm Florian nods. | |
| 14:29 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Move tunnels to the skies? |
| 14:29 | Katie (katie.canningham) | but it's nice having tunnels underground too |
| 14:29 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Tunnels and caves in skies is actually optimal |
| 14:29 | Owlie Fairelander | Underground is a pain though with the terraforming. |
| 14:29 | Katie (katie.canningham) | true |
| 14:29 | Nyree Rain | No water layer |
| 14:29 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Because building in the terrain is messy. And if you move all that geometry and textures, it is less lag on the ground. |
| 14:29 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | I remember a spot outside the library with a non-physical stepping stone. If you walked across it you fell into a dungeon. |
| 14:29 | Mari Moonbeam | How much demand is there? |
| 14:30 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Yes, not water layer, but you can fake it with prims for now. I think I read a thing where LL is working on a water surface. |
| 14:30 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Mari: From me, a lot. |
| 14:30 | Samm Florian | They're hard to make, but I like the ones we have now. |
| 14:30 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I have plans. |
| 14:30 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I think Ravelli suggested cavorite mines. :) |
| 14:30 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | I have a modular cave from somewhere in my inventory. |
| 14:30 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I have a couple Beth. |
| 14:31 | Katie (katie.canningham) | I have a few caves |
| 14:31 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Stuff to think about. |
| 14:31 | Owlie Fairelander | Ok, well, I'd like you to set up this dark layer on Rose, so I can do some tunnels and what not. |
| 14:31 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | and Skye and Fanatik both make caves. Big ones |
| 14:31 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Haha okay! |
| 14:31 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Skye, Fanatik, and ... |
| 14:32 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Fly Busey |
| 14:32 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | MeshCraft |
| 14:32 | Sandling Honey | :D |
| 14:32 | Owlie Fairelander | I have Fanatik and I think Skye as well. Both are well done. |
| 14:32 | Owlie Fairelander | And HPMD's caves. |
| 14:33 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Lets talk about... inflation. :) |
| 14:33 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | Aack. Not here too |
| 14:33 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Haha no |
| 14:33 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | whew |
| 14:33 | Francesca Alva blows up a balloon | |
| 14:35 | NeoBokrug Elytis | We had spoken last year about how The Wastelands has an "on-the-fly" USD to L$ conversion system. Their prices are based on USD rates, and I convert at the time of payments. The idea there is to keep it fair for tenants when the L$ costs more, and fair to the estate when it costs less. At that meeting folks seemed okay with the idea. |
| 14:35 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Sets my mind to just after the big bang |
| 14:36 | NeoBokrug Elytis | And now that the L$ is creeping at a steady pace this past year, it's time to consider putting this into motion. Right now if I implemented it, parcel prices would be slightly higher, but at the same time everyone is buying more L$ per dollar. |
| 14:36 | NeoBokrug Elytis | But to be honest I don't want to work on that unless its urgent to do so. The tier system I have needs a bit of modernization, and I would like to get that done before then. However, if the L$ starts to surge I may have to make changes before I want to. |
| 14:37 | NeoBokrug Elytis | For now, I am fine with where the L$ sits. Unlike Des, I wouldn't be okay if the price was L$300+/$1 |
| 14:38 | NeoBokrug Elytis | So, I am just being transparent about the contingencies I have planned should things continue to slip. |
| 14:38 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Any questions or comments? |
| 14:38 | Mari Moonbeam | I'm lost , your system sells L --or this is for the cogs that make scheduled payments? |
| 14:39 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Right now, the parcels do not keep the value of inflation. Some folks have rock bottom tier, and if the L$ goes too high on conversion, I am basically paying out of pocket. |
| 14:39 | Katie (katie.canningham) | the cogs are the automatic payers? |
| 14:39 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I have to pay in USD to LL, not L$ |
| 14:39 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Oh no, the prices here in Caledon are static. L$450 a week. |
| 14:39 | NeoBokrug Elytis | As an example |
| 14:39 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Where The Wastelands are about USD $5 a week, as an example |
| 14:39 | Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) | but you loose usd when you convert from l to usd |
| 14:41 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Right, The system works both ways though. When L$ is a bad buy for users, they save on tier when it would cost more at conversion. When L$ is a good buy for users, the estate doesn't pay out of pocket on the conversion losses. |
| 14:41 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | LL has to take a cut, so to speak |
| 14:41 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Well no, it is inflation. |
| 14:42 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) looks under nearby bushes for eggs. | |
| 14:42 | NeoBokrug Elytis | The L$ had been sitting at 245/1 for years. These past two years it's crept up to 251. ANd yeah, that's not a lot. But I have seen it historically hit 316, and back then Des would tell me he's bleeding, might have to raise tier. |
| 14:42 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) makes sure there are no babies under the bushes like in Finnish "where babies come from" folklore. | |
| 14:43 | Katie (katie.canningham) | don't be silly Elf, they're under the cabbages |
| 14:43 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | :-) |
| 14:43 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I am more comfortable with a system that converts at the time of payment. No one is out any L$ due to market changes. it would require an update on my end, something I don't want to do -- but if the L$ starts to spiral, I may have to do. |
| 14:44 | NeoBokrug Elytis | So, if and when that time comes, I will let folks know. |
| 14:44 | Owlie Fairelander | Oh yeah, Des started raising rates on some folks who had 2006 tier rates when they would be weeks or months behind in tier, and they'd cuss him out and call him a traitor, it was a hot mess back in the day. But he should have raised rates years ago. |
| 14:44 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Haha true. He told me that story too. |
| 14:45 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I do not like to raise rates, but if I were to make the changes today, it would seem raised, because everyone has better buying power. |
| 14:45 | Katie (katie.canningham) | O.O |
| 14:45 | NeoBokrug Elytis | We'll cross that road when we get there. I'm just being transparent. Please ask me some questions if you have concerns. |
| 14:46 | NeoBokrug Elytis | And yes, I am still always looking out for ways to pay that don't involve the L$. |
| 14:46 | Owlie Fairelander | Nah, I mean it just makes sense to have the rates float as the lindens float. |
| 14:46 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | This is making my brain hurt. So.. the more Lindens we get per USD, the less you get when you convert our tier lindens back to USD to pay your tier for the whole sims. |
| 14:46 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Beth: that is right. |
| 14:46 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | whew |
| 14:47 | Katie (katie.canningham) | I think I got it now |
| 14:47 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | How would we make a USD payment to you? |
| 14:47 | KayCooper | adjusting for that makes sense |
| 14:47 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I do have a bit of a tolerance buffer. But with how quick the L$ has moved in the past 2 months has made me a little nervous. |
| 14:47 | Owlie Fairelander | It's not a 1:1 ratio...more like 3:1 then converted the other way it's the opposite 1:3. |
| 14:47 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Beth: That's a complex topic for when and if it ever goes live. Short answer: A WEBSITE. |
| 14:48 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | LOL |
| 14:48 | Katie (katie.canningham) | secure website? |
| 14:48 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Yes. |
| 14:48 | Katie (katie.canningham) | awesome! |
| 14:48 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Ravelli has some statistics... |
| 14:48 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | hey, it's worked well in the wastelands - i've never heard anybody complain - and if it keeps Caledon healthy and stable, i say go for it |
| 14:49 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I know it's another topic for a different day, but I did a ton of research and asked providers questions, folks would salve on the LL fee for buys. |
| 14:49 | Samm Florian | "Subscribe to our Patreon…" |
| 14:49 | KayCooper | hehe |
| 14:49 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Haha yeah Ravelli has some stats, I knew the L$ was moving (I sell every day), but seeing it on a chart made me wince. |
| 14:50 | Owlie Fairelander | Basically, what Neo wants to do is make sure Caledon remains stable even when the Linden conversion rates are not in his favor to make the needed region payments to the Lab each month. |
| 14:50 | NeoBokrug Elytis | And yeah, Tora knows about The Wastelands system. It goes up or down by a linden every once in a blue moon. |
| 14:50 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I should have had you just say that Owlie, it's so much more succinct. |
| 14:50 | Samm Florian | Most of my tier is paid for by Lindens I get from various sources…premium membership, tips, Oxbridge. I'd rather not hafta cash out to pay tier, jes sayin'. |
| 14:50 | Owlie Fairelander | I used to talk to Des about such things. |
| 14:50 | NeoBokrug Elytis | You don't need to Samm, it would be in addition to the regular ways. |
| 14:51 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I am always about making ways to pay tier easier. |
| 14:51 | Samm Florian | OK. :) |
| 14:51 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) projects some yellow to blue moon to make it green | |
| 14:51 | Samm Florian | Just brainstormin'. |
| 14:51 | NeoBokrug Elytis | This track is way Mellow Sandling. |
| 14:51 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Yeah, I am all about input as well. |
| 14:51 | Sandling Honey | Haha very |
| 14:51 | Francesca Alva | Excuse me, I need to get over to New Toulouse. Hope to see some of you there. ㋡ Thank your for the music, Sandling |
| 14:52 | Owlie Fairelander | Neo likes to have more then one way to skin a cat. |
| 14:52 | Sandling Honey | But I love it |
| 14:52 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I shall meet you there in 8 minutes Fran :) |
| 14:52 | Katie (katie.canningham) | ~*~* EEEEEEEEK! *~*~ |
| 14:52 | Katie (katie.canningham) passes out. | |
| 14:52 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Any questions about anything else so far? |
| 14:52 | Katie (katie.canningham) | OWLIE!!!!! |
| 14:52 | Sandling Honey | Whole set was mellow today ;D |
| 14:52 | NeoBokrug Elytis | U tgubj a... |
| 14:52 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I think I answered most questions folks had. |
| 14:53 | Owlie Fairelander | grins. I sometimes am a cat as well! A hairless cat but a cat! |
| 14:53 | Katie (katie.canningham) | Hi Arton! |
| 14:53 | Sandling Honey rewires Neo | |
| 14:53 | Katie (katie.canningham) | Hi Kara! |
| 14:53 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | CAT? |
| 14:53 | Arton Tripsa | hi Katie! |
| 14:53 | Katie (katie.canningham) | CAT! |
| 14:54 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | As in Caledon public transportation. |
| 14:54 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) pulls her hard hat down tighter over her ears. | |
| 14:54 | NeoBokrug Elytis | CAT. At the very top of my loist. |
| 14:54 | Katie (katie.canningham) | that too |
| 14:54 | Kara of the bright smile (kara2016) | Smiles brightly. |
| 14:54 | Owlie Fairelander | Ferries! |
| 14:54 | Owlie Fairelander | I needs ferries! |
| 14:54 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Minisubs! |
| 14:54 | NeoBokrug Elytis | New Toulouse needs some fixes still; again there was a lot more work for me than I had known about at the time |
| 14:54 | Katie (katie.canningham) | I love fairies! |
| 14:54 | Owlie Fairelander | yes! minisubs as well. |
| 14:54 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Well, non-procreating ones.... |
| 14:55 | Samm Florian | I should sell my robot fairy sometime. |
| 14:55 | NeoBokrug Elytis | The transportation scripts I am working on, work for all methods of transportation. |
| 14:55 | Katie (katie.canningham) | robot fairy sounds cool |
| 14:55 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Sort of a universal kit. |
| 14:55 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | i love the trolleys in New Toulouse. i use them to get around the city |
| 14:55 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Would transpiration work between Caledon and New Toulouse? |
| 14:55 | Owlie Fairelander | After the rose hunt I need to update the volcano and cave. |
| 14:55 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | so... maybe trolley's? |
| 14:55 | Samm Florian | Across the tides of time... |
| 14:55 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Elfbiter, I plan to have a couple ferries. |
| 14:55 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Tora, there used to be trains here. |
| 14:56 | Samm Florian | I'm picturin' a Cruise Ship. :) |
| 14:56 | NeoBokrug Elytis | There's BIG plans for crossing the tides of time in a ferry |
| 14:56 | Samm Florian | QE2-big? |
| 14:56 | Owlie Fairelander | Trains, ferries, CATs and killer trolley |
| 14:56 | Arton Tripsa | wow |
| 14:56 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I am going to pull out all the stops to make it an "experience" |
| 14:56 | Katie (katie.canningham) | the QE2 was huge - it had like four pools |
| 14:56 | Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) | Still kind of missing the carriages griefing spell wiped |
| 14:57 | Owlie Fairelander | Carriages would be fun to bring back. |
| 14:57 | Jorge Serapis | 3, Katie. |
| 14:57 | Samm Florian | Gives sims a lived-in feel even when folks aren't around. |
| 14:57 | Owlie Fairelander | Would be interesting to have to switch modes of transportation to get around the place. |
| 14:57 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | L O L O L let's just have everything! |
| 14:57 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I know some of you are itchin' to get Caledon Roses; but in a couple Minutes New Toulouse will begin celebrating it's 17th! I'll be over there for the rest of the night, if anyone else wants to come hang out: New Toulouse (146,184,23) |
| 14:58 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | oh yah, i'll be there :-D |
| 14:58 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | RL is calling me |
| 14:58 | Katie (katie.canningham) | good night Beth! |
| 14:58 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Take it easy everyone! Let me know if you have questions or need anything |
| 14:58 | NeoBokrug Elytis | OH |
| 14:58 | NeoBokrug Elytis | OH! |
| 14:58 | NeoBokrug Elytis | I will have limited availability the week of the 17th. I have RL obligations. |
| 14:58 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | ? |
| 14:59 | NeoBokrug Elytis | So my responses may be slow, and my capacity to help a little limited. |
| 14:59 | Samm Florian looks up at the Queen... | |
| 14:59 | Beth Cooper-Pentewyn (beth.pentewyn) | OK. Farewell all -- It's good to see so many familar faces. |
| 14:59 | Samm Florian | Cya Beth! |
| 14:59 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Take care everyone! I'll see you around! |
| 14:59 | Owlie Fairelander | have fun! |
| 14:59 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | bye beth! take care, and be well! :-D |
| 14:59 | Aury (aurysa) | take care everyone! |
| 14:59 | NeoBokrug Elytis | Thanks Sandling for the Tunes. Thanks Word for the recordkeeping, and thank you all for coming. |
| 14:59 | Gyel Llewellyn | Bye, everyone. |
| 14:59 | KayCooper | Thanks Neo |
| 14:59 | Sandling Honey | Most welcome :D |
| 14:59 | KayCooper | Thanks Sandling |
| 15:00 | John Laughing (thesoundofonemanlaughing) | Thank you Sandling! |
| 15:00 | KayCooper | Thanks Word :) |
| 15:00 | Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) | bye everyeone! and thanks sandling! |
| 15:00 | Sandling Honey | \o |
| 15:01 | Kara of the bright smile (kara2016) | fast meeting.. |
| 15:01 | Katie (katie.canningham) | many thanks! |
| 15:01 | Katie (katie.canningham) | TC all! |
| 15:01 | Katie (katie.canningham) | I gotta go get changed for the dance |
| 15:01 | Kara of the bright smile (kara2016) | dance? |
| 15:01 | Wordsmith Jarvinen | Sneaks up on the transcript, grabs it and shoves it into a burlap sack |
| 15:02 | Sandling Honey | Cheeers everyone :D |