Caledon Community Meeting for 2024-10-12

13:49 Owlie Fairelander Turns on the tunes, and turns off youtube. heee.
13:49 NeoBokrug Elytis I accidentally closed SL trying to get things going. :\
13:49 Owlie Fairelander oops!
13:49 Zahra Ethaniel Hi there Guv :)
13:50 Owlie Fairelander Hi Zahra
13:50 NeoBokrug Elytis Hiya Zahra and Word!
13:50 Zahra Ethaniel Heyas Owlie, Word and Sandling :)
13:50 Owlie Fairelander Hi Word
13:50 Sandling Honey Hey there :D
13:51 Zahra Ethaniel ohhh turning on the Stream :)
13:52 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hi, Zahra
13:52 Zahra Ethaniel :) Word
13:52 Zahra Ethaniel Greetings Elfbiter
13:53 Owlie Fairelander Hi Elf
13:53 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hi Owlie & Elfbiter :)
13:53 Zahra Ethaniel Hugs Mari
13:53 Owlie Fairelander HI Mari
13:54 Mari Moonbeam Hi Owlie & Elfbiter & Zahra & Word and NeoGuv
13:54 NeoBokrug Elytis Hiya Elfbiter and Mari.
13:54 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hola, Mari
13:55 Zahra Ethaniel Hi there Cynthia
13:55 Cynthia Farshore Greetings everybody
13:55 Sandling Honey Hello there! : )
13:56 Mari Moonbeam Hi Sandling and Cynthia
13:56 Aury (aurysa) hello everyone!
13:56 Zahra Ethaniel Hi Aury :)
13:57 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hi, Aury
13:57 NeoBokrug Elytis Hiya Cynthia, Kay and Aury. :)
13:57 Zahra Ethaniel Hi Kay :)
13:57 Zahra Ethaniel and Hello Ravelli
13:57 NeoBokrug Elytis And Ravelli :)
13:57 Ravelli Ormstein Hello everybody
13:57 KayCooper Hi Zahra, Hi everyone
13:57 Ravelli Ormstein I took the top door
13:57 Aury (aurysa) hi there Ravelli :P
13:58 Cynthia Farshore Greetings Dean
13:59 NeoBokrug Elytis Hiya Jorge.
13:59 KayCooper Hi Jorge
13:59 Owlie Fairelander hello everyone that arrived while my head was in another window!
13:59 Zahra Ethaniel Hi Jorge :)
13:59 KayCooper waves to Owlie
13:59 Jorge Serapis *waves hello to everyone*
14:00 Owlie Fairelander Hi Kay
14:00 NeoBokrug Elytis Lets wait for the fashionably late. :)
14:01 Zahra Ethaniel Heya Tavish
14:01 NeoBokrug Elytis Hiya Tavish
14:01 Owlie Fairelander Hi Tavish.
14:01 Tavish Brock (tavishbrock) waves
14:01 NeoBokrug Elytis IT'S... TIME.
14:02 Zahra Ethaniel \o/ :)
14:02 NeoBokrug Elytis reviews his notes...
14:02 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Not New York TIMEs`
14:02 NeoBokrug Elytis To start, Occupancy this past month has had a little bump over last month. Always good.
14:03 Jorge Serapis *admires Word's anti gravity seat cushion*
14:03 NeoBokrug Elytis I can't remember where, but I recently saw some rumored metrics that general SL concurrency is down about 20-30% over last year. That sort of tracks with my general observations both here in Caledon, and The Wastelands.
14:04 Jorge Serapis post COVID pandemic rebound?
14:05 NeoBokrug Elytis There's only so much communities of SL can do to push the needle there, and I think we're going to start to need LL to help bring things back. To be fair, I think some of it, is just folks being busy trying to wrangle with the economy.
14:05 Mari Moonbeam PBR backlash
14:05 NeoBokrug Elytis Not in Caledon, but in The Wastelands I've had at least two folks tell me they needed to tier down to focus on their own things.
14:06 NeoBokrug Elytis I don't know that it is PBR backlash Mari. I do agree that the launch was a mess, but folks had (and have) alternative viewers to log in with.
14:06 Owlie Fairelander And PBR can be turned off.
14:06 Zahra Ethaniel RL happens, sometimes unexpectedly
14:06 NeoBokrug Elytis Jorge made a good point that, maybe it is still a bit of COVID cleanup. We saw it last year for sure.
14:06 Ravelli Ormstein considers to reinstall a non PBR-viewer again
14:06 NeoBokrug Elytis The updated SL and Firestorm viewers are far better for PBR than launch.
14:07 NeoBokrug Elytis There's always room for improvement. Always. :)
14:07 Ravelli Ormstein loves hearing this
14:08 NeoBokrug Elytis I think the drop in concurrency is indicative of a bigger problem, and I guess we'll just have to weather that. We'll survive. My short term goals are to still bring awareness of Caledon to folks, and if we can get some new faces around here -- all the better.
14:08 Ember (emberell) Yes, the updates fixed a few issues that were introduced with Firestorm's jump
14:09 Mari Moonbeam nods , I'm waiting until they aren't running hot , my macbook never has the fans on now and 2k is 2k to replace
14:10 Tavish Brock (tavishbrock) The PBR rendering system is death on ARM Macs regardless of settings right now, Mari.
14:10 NeoBokrug Elytis Speaking of... my little bit of advertising on Facebook specifically to existing SL users... feels like throwing money in a pit. I don't know that it brought anyone new around. I'll try something a bit different here this upcoming month; part of my original plans.
14:10 Cynthia Farshore It's not unusual that new things have unexpected bugs people, seen it before, beside Firestorm left their earlier non PBR available so I don't see PBR as any impact on population
14:10 NeoBokrug Elytis (I still hate social media in general -- but a necessary evil)
14:11 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) SL group in FB is kind of full of party announcements
14:11 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) And scantily clad avatar item ads
14:11 NeoBokrug Elytis I have a few speculative theories of my own about concurrency, but this meeting is not a forum for it.
14:12 NeoBokrug Elytis Oh, no -- I took out proper Facebook ads. Not posting to other groups.
14:12 Ravelli Ormstein got the impression that FB is swamped with fake SL accounts
14:12 NeoBokrug Elytis Not going to do that again.
14:12 NeoBokrug Elytis ;)
14:12 Ember (emberell) Con currency? are we talking crypto? :-)
14:12 NeoBokrug Elytis looks at Ember, then Tavish.
14:12 Tavish Brock (tavishbrock) What??
14:13 NeoBokrug Elytis :)
14:13 Ember (emberell) Don't look at me!
14:13 Tavish Brock (tavishbrock) checks to make sure things are zipped up
14:13 Cynthia Farshore con-currency, being against currency
14:13 Ravelli Ormstein hm?
14:14 NeoBokrug Elytis I am working on a new official Caledon Google Calendar. I am going to make sure that folks are in place to take it over in case something bad happens.
14:14 Owlie Fairelander Victorian themed community is always going to be a small set of folks wanting to be in it.
14:15 Mari Moonbeam I KNEW it --calendar slaves in the tunnels
14:15 Cynthia Farshore ooohh not Google :(
14:16 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Calendar kitty catgirls...
14:16 NeoBokrug Elytis Right now, I am gatekeeping contributions to the Google Calendar behind discord. From there I am going to convert things to JSON, and feed it into an inworld message that'll be at most telehubs, saying what's happening that day. That's the plan. You don't have to like or participate in discord -- but if you want your events to show up on the Calendar, you'll have to use the event feature of Discord. I have chosen to pay for the premium service of the integration, so we can have something a bit more nicer.
14:16 Tavish Brock (tavishbrock) has spent an unhealthy amount of time working with Google calendar data
14:17 NeoBokrug Elytis I am still working on it, and will be for a bit. One step at a time.
14:17 NeoBokrug Elytis Tavish has the same brain damage I do.
14:18 Owlie Fairelander Good! then you two can write a how-to manual for us (me) that is basically clueless about the workings of both Discord and Google calendar....grins.
14:18 NeoBokrug Elytis My goal is to bring awareness to events utilizing these tools, through a website and inworld locations.
14:18 NeoBokrug Elytis Absolutely. I excel at tech documentation.
14:18 Tavish Brock (tavishbrock) I have made a little HUD that shows the day's events for various estates in-world, if anyone wants one.
14:18 NeoBokrug Elytis Yeah! Tavish was showin' me, and it is really cool.
14:19 Mari Moonbeam I see a lot of people at the Steampunk or vintage events , what if you used available parcels for one off special themed merchant events ? Customers would see the estate vs just another event mall. Not sure how expensive a Seraphim listing would be ...
14:20 NeoBokrug Elytis I've done it in the past for very special occasions, but it is not something I want to make a regular habit, Mari.
14:20 Owlie Fairelander I'd love one, Tavish
14:20 Cynthia Farshore I see, so we send you the info in discord, you work it through Google Calender which in turn sends it into SL to display on a panel that about right?
14:21 Owlie Fairelander Thank you, Tavish
14:22 Tavish Brock (tavishbrock) Not at all. Work in progress, but I find it useful :)
14:22 NeoBokrug Elytis Those who have events, will be given a role on discord to post their events in to discord. And I have a whole "article" about how it is done currently. You do not need my intervention, and by time the full chain of the process is done -- you just post your event details and it'll propagate.
14:22 Cynthia Farshore sounds like a plan
14:23 NeoBokrug Elytis It will not post to inworld groups however, just the Discord events, Google Calendar, some sort of JSON document I am going to have it author, and from there I'll be pulling data for my Thursday social media posts.
14:24 NeoBokrug Elytis I am probably going to set up something like: https://calendar.independenstateofcaledon.com
14:24 NeoBokrug Elytis And make sure that requires minimal intervention.
14:24 NeoBokrug Elytis I work very hard to be lazy.
14:24 Owlie Fairelander I like lazy.
14:25 Jorge Serapis So what happens to the current Caledon calendar?
14:25 Cynthia Farshore uuuh link does not connect
14:25 Ravelli Ormstein thinks it was just an example url
14:25 NeoBokrug Elytis I think we just abandon it. There's abandoned repeating events, and such going on. IIRC.
14:25 Cynthia Farshore ah
14:27 Cynthia Farshore I really should try this lazy you speak of
14:27 NeoBokrug Elytis For those who run events, I am not allowing a repeating event function. I know it's tedious, but it is VERY IMPORTANT to occasionally add flavor to your event description, or whatever. Having the same thing over and over is technically okay, but if you have something like a Halloween version of your event, you should spice up the title and description to make folks gloss over it less. If that makes sense.
14:27 NeoBokrug Elytis If you want to repeat your event, save the title, description, SLURL to a notecard, and just copy-paste once a week. I won't fault you.
14:28 Ali (sungali) What about showing the schedule of a regular class for months ahead?
14:28 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) is more inclined to have Halloween-free events....
14:28 Ravelli Ormstein hands Elf a root beer
14:28 NeoBokrug Elytis I believe Caledon Oxbridge has their own Calendar, and posting rule. This is for ISC specifically.
14:28 Ali (sungali) Oh Okay
14:29 NeoBokrug Elytis Repeating events are a burden for me, because it requires me to double check that every event listed, is actually being hosted. I can't wait on responses on Thursdays.
14:29 Cynthia Farshore mmm something I have to think on such as right now Downs is in a month long Halloween event not just s day
14:29 NeoBokrug Elytis So if everyone just posts their event once a week (set an alarm), It'll allow me to have the confidence to post all the events listed to social media -- and we can all hope that nothing gets canceled.
14:30 Ravelli Ormstein in a calendar software I wrote I have a feature to copy an existing event to edit it, but one can not make auto-repeatable event
14:30 NeoBokrug Elytis Yeah, just post it with the title of "All of October", have it run for 15 minutes at midnight on a Sunday or something. The event will still appear in the calendar weekly, and the title will let folks know.
14:31 Ravelli Ormstein good idea, Neo
14:31 NeoBokrug Elytis Rather than hash out all the details about how discord works here at the meeting, I'll just help folks one at a time, about how the entire system (is supposed to) work.
14:32 Cynthia Farshore ok I haven't used the discord before so I'll catch you on there
14:32 NeoBokrug Elytis So on my plate -- The discord integration works and updates in real time. That's done, here's a sneak peek at the Calendar (don't depend on this just yet.
14:32 Owlie Fairelander yeah, I am new to discord as well...it's a learning curve.
14:33 KayCooper I'm reacquainting myself with discord as well
14:33 Tavish Brock (tavishbrock) It's like Slack for kids :P
14:33 NeoBokrug Elytis One sec.. logging in to things.
14:34 Mari Moonbeam I don't get the why behind a zillion sections for most groups , and the ding ding drives me crazy so I mute channels and then have a grocery list to audit ...
14:34 NeoBokrug Elytis https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/0/embed?src=286894368e1ddd8bb209895b8ac97c16a5b2dc73cf5ae7c63e067386ea38b74a@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&pli=1
14:34 Cynthia Farshore you can turn off the ding
14:35 NeoBokrug Elytis Haha yeah, I suggest muting channels. I do have all the other steamlands there too as guests, as well as real world discussion, but you can mute them if you're not interested.
14:35 Ali (sungali) Calendar draft looks good.
14:36 NeoBokrug Elytis Anyway, that's the plan for the Calendar. Yes it's a little annoying, but I think once we learn the process it'll make things a bit more sane for general Caledon event promotions.
14:36 NeoBokrug Elytis 25 minutes left, time to speed up!
14:37 NeoBokrug Elytis Regarding the Group Notices and Group chat changes. After having 2 community meetings, several notecards, emails, and IM discussions with folks. I have settled on what the rules will be.
14:37 NeoBokrug Elytis Hang in with me and hear it all out before you bring up the pitchforks and torches.
14:38 NeoBokrug Elytis 1) Events posted into ISC should be focused on events happening IN Caledon*.
14:38 NeoBokrug Elytis 2) Ideally group notices will be posted a whole day before the event, but I will allow up to an hour before. I hope that folks will consider as much time as possible, because notices go to offline emails if you have it configured to do so.
14:39 NeoBokrug Elytis 3) Group chat to remind folks of events, will be 1 message to catch folks who are online now for: 15-5 minutes before an event starts. 1 when an event starts. And one at a half-time if your event is 2+ hours long, or when a different performer takes the stage.
14:40 NeoBokrug Elytis As for events that happen outside of Caledon. They are allowed in a VERY limited capacity
14:40 NeoBokrug Elytis 1) You must be a resident of Caledon to vouch for the event as being something of interest to Caledon.
14:40 NeoBokrug Elytis 2) You may post 1 event notice outside of Caledon quarterly. So make sure that's the event you want to brag about.
14:41 NeoBokrug Elytis All is contingent on peer status of the group.
14:41 NeoBokrug Elytis I am done.
14:41 NeoBokrug Elytis (unless I forgot something), but that's the gist of it.
14:41 NeoBokrug Elytis Aether Chrononauts is a group that is great for posting events happening in other steamlands.
14:42 NeoBokrug Elytis And I am going to promote ISC, Caledon Oxbridge, and Aether Chrononauts at the telehub for folks who want to stay involved.
14:42 NeoBokrug Elytis Any pitchforks to hurl at my head?
14:43 Owlie Fairelander I apparently don't own any pitchforks.
14:43 NeoBokrug Elytis Does someone want to lend Owlie a pitchfork?
14:43 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Ravelli has the torch, I omit the pitchforks...
14:44 NeoBokrug Elytis I will write up a notecard and hand it out to all the event hosting regulars, and reach out to them in the coming week.
14:44 NeoBokrug Elytis 15 minutes.
14:44 Ravelli Ormstein I wonder if the community will get used to group notices one day ahead, because it is uncommon, but of course it is worth it to give it a test
14:44 Cynthia Farshore I was sort of under the impression ISC was rather free for us to talk as we are now
14:45 NeoBokrug Elytis Okay. HALLOWEEN. Behind me, the ghoulish jack-o-lantern has the Halloween dispenser scripts that work on October 30th through november 1st. Folks visit your location, say trick or treat, and get a copy of an item, or a random item.
14:46 Zahra Ethaniel I have a question about the random item?
14:46 Zahra Ethaniel Will our treat-giver let us know if the items have run out?
14:47 NeoBokrug Elytis You can discuss whatever you want in ISC, but being hammered with chat and notices about events as they are happening gives people reason to mute or leave the group. That is detrimental to Caledon as a whole, we need to respect folks offline IM counts (notices), and online presences. I am going to send IMs to everyone in the group who's logged in for the past year to ask them for forgiveness, and to unmute us if they have.
14:47 NeoBokrug Elytis Zahra, yes. If you are a resident and you click the jack-o-lantern behind me it has quite thorough instructions.
14:47 NeoBokrug Elytis And for those participating in trick-or-treating this year, please send me an IM, and a Landmark to each of your locations.
14:47 Zahra Ethaniel oh thank you, I did get it, but, haven't had a chance to look it over, sorry for the interruption
14:48 NeoBokrug Elytis I will be sending them all out the day before it starts.
14:48 NeoBokrug Elytis No worries. :)
14:48 Mari Moonbeam but we can still sip "tea" and chat in ISC chat ?
14:48 NeoBokrug Elytis haha yeah :)
14:49 Ravelli Ormstein tea with cavorite flavor and cinnamon
14:49 Owlie Fairelander Worked for me, the pumpkin for trick or treat.
14:50 NeoBokrug Elytis Okay.
14:50 NeoBokrug Elytis 10 minutes!
14:50 Owlie Fairelander I feel timed.
14:50 Owlie Fairelander Wonder why.
14:51 Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) shades of finals week :-P
14:51 NeoBokrug Elytis I have been working to try to help folks make others aware of their Halloween events. And There's probably going to be some overlap. If you have an event the week of Halloween please let me know and I will try to get it out there.
14:51 NeoBokrug Elytis FINALLY, 9 minutes
14:51 Ember (emberell) Oh, yeah, Guv - if you'd like to send me a list of events I can announce them in the general Q&A for some reach there
14:51 Ember (emberell) since some folk read the transcripts for notices
14:51 Ember (emberell) I'm always happy to boost community events there
14:52 NeoBokrug Elytis I made a new tool to "level out" your tier. It is in the Guvs mansion to the right as you enter on an easel with a few other tools. What it does is make all your tier due on the same day.
14:53 Zahra Ethaniel I'll be trying that out after the meeting :) \o/!
14:53 Owlie Fairelander Oh sure, you make it now, after I only have one parcel.
14:53 NeoBokrug Elytis It picks your parcel with the furthest out date, adds one day and makes that the target date. Then it calculates the tier for every other parcel you own, and gives you a payment option. You pay it, your tier is all due on the same day.
14:53 NeoBokrug Elytis It also doubles as a "pay all your tier one day" tool, as long as all your parcels are already due on the same day.
14:53 NeoBokrug Elytis Next to it, are the older tools, pay all parcels 7 days, and pay all parcels 28 days.
14:54 Tavish Brock (tavishbrock) That's a very cool thing
14:54 NeoBokrug Elytis Off to the right side on the table, is the tier-auto-pay cog. Once you set it up on a parcel you own, as long as you have L$ on your account, it'll try to pay tier for you for that specific parcel.
14:54 Cynthia Farshore be easy, be like those of us with whole regions you just make one payment that covers all
14:55 Zahra Ethaniel unless you have a bunch of other parcels scattered through the whole estate :)
14:55 NeoBokrug Elytis You'll have to set one up for every parcel. Folks in The Wastelands asked me to make it about a decade ago, in case they could not make it online. For instance if their PC died, or weather took out the internet for a week.
14:55 NeoBokrug Elytis But I think about half of the Wastelanders use it as a set it and forget it device.
14:55 NeoBokrug Elytis 5 minutes, enough to ask me question, and I'll hang out here for as long as you want until we're done. :)
14:57 NeoBokrug Elytis Ember: For those list of events I am probably going to put a hard deadline on submissions for the 23rd, so I can sort 'em all out.
14:57 NeoBokrug Elytis I will get you what I know, the next day.
14:57 Ember (emberell) nods
14:57 NeoBokrug Elytis Also my friend with the Tea store is very appreciative of the few orders you folks have put in. :)
14:57 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) I still tend to post noticed hour beforehand
14:57 NeoBokrug Elytis Do let me know what you think, and I will pass it on.
14:58 Ravelli Ormstein your tea friend does not offer Assam
14:58 Cynthia Farshore Guvnah what about ad panels I know there is a couple at Oxbridge
14:58 NeoBokrug Elytis I will pass that on. Maybe he'll get some.
14:59 Owlie Fairelander All right Neo, you've made some changes to how the notifications in ISC are being done, so any plans or thoughts to change the tone or conversation aspects of ISC at all?
14:59 NeoBokrug Elytis Owlie: Just exist for a while, and be decent.
14:59 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) I have not noticed any flame wars in ISC
15:00 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) and Kara tends to smile brightly and so on
15:00 NeoBokrug Elytis Ad panels. I have this little sub-game in The Wastelands involving spray paint. I could set up something like that here, and have a "panel" at telehubs.
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen No lumen limits in ISC?
15:00 NeoBokrug Elytis Maybe you paste a thematic poster for your event.
15:00 Owlie Fairelander Well, some of us in Caledon are old enough to remember the want to have ISC a silent channel, and some of us fought against that. So was curious about it.
15:01 NeoBokrug Elytis I think it is good to have discussion. I would never mute it.
15:01 NeoBokrug Elytis It supports the community.
15:01 Ravelli Ormstein nods
15:02 KayCooper I agree
15:02 NeoBokrug Elytis Ravelli, Tea friend says: Yeah we do Chinese tea mainly, some Taiwanese and a little Japanese. Assam is Indian tea, we don't really do Indian tea.
We have one Darjeeling but that's all.
15:02 Cynthia Farshore some may get passionate about something but I've never heard flame
15:03 Ravelli Ormstein oh, pity. But thanks for asking, Neo
15:03 NeoBokrug Elytis Yeah, it has mostly been civil in there, and I seldom step in to address things. I will though it if is problematic in my eyes.
15:03 NeoBokrug Elytis I have in the past.
15:03 Tavish Brock (tavishbrock) They're Darjeeling Limited
15:03 Ravelli Ormstein :-)
15:04 NeoBokrug Elytis Any other questions, comments, or air-express pitchforks to deliver to me?
15:04 KayCooper I'd just like to say that I appreciate the landscaping of free parcels...they look nice and not so vacant
15:04 NeoBokrug Elytis If anyone has concerns about anything ever, my door is always open.
15:04 Owlie Fairelander OH there's an option to air-express pitchforks! sweet!
15:04 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) I am out of paper airplanes. Oh. That was IgNobels.
15:04 NeoBokrug Elytis That'd be the handywork of Mari. :)
15:05 KayCooper Thank you Mari! It looks very nice :)
15:05 Mari Moonbeam thank you Kay
15:05 Zahra Ethaniel Thank you for the great tunes today, Sandling :)
15:05 Cynthia Farshore I was going to use an airship to drop pitchforks
15:05 Owlie Fairelander yes, it's nice to see the empties a little less empty.
15:05 KayCooper Thanks Sandling
15:05 NeoBokrug Elytis Ahh yes. Thanks for the tunes Sandling. :)
15:05 Sandling Honey yw :D
15:05 Owlie Fairelander Thank you, Sandling!
15:05 Sandling Honey \O.O/
15:05 Mari Moonbeam yes! that was a treat
15:06 NeoBokrug Elytis A long term project is to bring my parcel auto-decorator system here to Caledon, so that Mari can click some buttons and get a good start on it. But that is a LOT of work for me.
15:06 Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) thanks as always, mz Sandling!
15:07 Sandling Honey Thank you all too : >
15:07 Owlie Fairelander Yeah you need to get some Victorian style litter for it.
15:07 NeoBokrug Elytis Next community meeting is on November 9th. Keep an eye out on group notices for Halloween things.
15:07 Zahra Ethaniel broken teapots and cups :)
15:07 Ravelli Ormstein remember, remember, the 9th of november!
15:08 Tavish Brock (tavishbrock) Thanks Neo and everyone!
15:08 Zahra Ethaniel Thank you for the meeting, Neo :)
15:08 NeoBokrug Elytis I have one more tier related tool to bring to Caledon, but you shouldn't rez it if you have all your tier on one day.
15:08 Aury (aurysa) thanks everyone!
15:08 KayCooper Thanks Neo :)
15:08 Mari Moonbeam teapot shotput
15:08 NeoBokrug Elytis Thanks for coming out everyone.
15:08 Zahra Ethaniel I'm going to try the tier leveling thing : )
15:08 Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) yup, thanks neo sama :-D
15:08 NeoBokrug Elytis Oh yeah! There's a "?" under it with instructions. The instructions should also be in the group notices.
15:08 KayCooper Take care everyone and enjoy the rest of your day/evening :)
15:09 Zahra Ethaniel good to see everyone, have a great rest of the day/evening :)
15:09 SupposedToPurr (rob.niosaki) LOL
15:09 Cynthia Farshore oh one more question on paying tier does this apply to regions?
15:10 Cynthia Farshore well we still have the pay stand we have now?
15:11 NeoBokrug Elytis You can pay tier anywhere.
15:11 NeoBokrug Elytis However if you use any of the tools back there, the old meter needs time to update. If you make a payment for the old meter, it'll update to the new times.
15:11 Ravelli Ormstein it is great you have so many tools
15:12 NeoBokrug Elytis Inworld, there's a few hours delay on the old meters, but the data is safe on the backend.
15:12 Cynthia Farshore ok then I can just keep what I'm doing
15:12 NeoBokrug Elytis Hey, if you build your own tier system, you can do anything.
15:12 Ravelli Ormstein yup!
15:13 NeoBokrug Elytis There will be a point where I want to update the whole thing, because working on the leveler made me realize how old the code is, and as I said earlier. Things can always be improved. :)
15:13 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) As long asn things are updated to incomprehensibility
15:14 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Says a guy who saw it happen with local national railways....
15:14 Ravelli Ormstein "Never touch a running system." my boss used to say, but then he got fired be the owners for not being innovative
15:14 NeoBokrug Elytis The database design could be a lot better. I have some redundant data in there; but it all still works.