Caledon Community Meeting for 2024-06-08

13:57 NeoBokrug Elytis Good afternoon everyone. We'll start a little bit after the hour, to give those who are fashionably late their time to arrive. :)
13:58 KayCooper Also hello Frigid and Neo :)
13:58 KayCooper /me sits comfortably in her chair
13:58 Jan Stroikavskoi Hello everyone :)
13:58 KayCooper That is a lovely dress, Aury
13:58 KayCooper Hi Jan :)
13:58 Aury (Aurysa) hi there Jan
13:58 Jan Stroikavskoi Hi Kay :)
13:59 Aury (Aurysa) thankies Kay :))
13:59 Jan Stroikavskoi Hi Aury :)
13:59 Jan Stroikavskoi Hiya Zyne!
13:59 KayCooper Hi Zyn
14:00 Jan Stroikavskoi Is Nyree coming ;)
14:00 Zynwyr Fairelander Hey Jan. Asking Nyree to miss the purple hour is just too much, so she sent me.
14:00 Jan Stroikavskoi Ohmygah! the purple hour??? Looks like I missed that ;)
14:01 NeoBokrug Elytis Man, I think Nyree sent me a notice about that, and I completely spaced on it. Please tell her I'm very sorry.
14:01 KayCooper Greeting Jorge
14:01 NeoBokrug Elytis Home care for my kitty has me a bit scatterbrained.
14:01 Jan Stroikavskoi Hi Jorge :)
14:03 Jorge Serapis *waves to everyone!*
14:03 NeoBokrug Elytis Hi folks! Thanks for comin'.
14:03 Jan Stroikavskoi Hi Neo :)
14:03 Aury (Aurysa) hi there Jorge!
14:04 NeoBokrug Elytis As per the usual I'll be speaking about various aspects of Caledon, with breaks in between for folks to ask questions.
14:04 Cynthia Farshore Hi
14:04 NeoBokrug Elytis I'll try to keep this short, as RFL and other events are going on.
14:04 KayCooper HI Cynthia
14:05 NeoBokrug Elytis Occupancy has stayed relatively the same this past month, I think it went up just a tiny bit.
14:05 NeoBokrug Elytis We are still part of the Welcome HUB Community Expo, and I can't remember if I mentioned this last month but we got an upgraded plot there.
14:06 NeoBokrug Elytis It is further back than the smaller plots, and I don't know that I am seeing more visitors. I don't keep metrics, but there's a freebie item from Oxbridge that folks used to buy for L$0, and I'd see a lot of those.
14:06 NeoBokrug Elytis I am seeing none now. :\
14:07 NeoBokrug Elytis Additionally, Linden Lab wanted me to change how the teleporters from the Community Expo worked. As such there's a small gate at Oxbridge and here in Victoria City that are return portals. Before we could give out a landmark, and that was fine; but LL requested changes so I obliged.
14:08 NeoBokrug Elytis Here's the part where I'd ask word if he's seen more new folks from the Expo, but I think he has obligations elsewhere.
14:08 NeoBokrug Elytis Caledon is participating in SL21B, with Jorge and Aev leading the builds there.
14:09 NeoBokrug Elytis Caledon is also part of the ACTS Team for RFL, and I think astarynite is leading the build there.
14:09 NeoBokrug Elytis Any questions about anything so far?
14:09 Jorge Serapis Jorge and Valerie leading the build. ;-)
14:09 Jorge Serapis Aev is doing the RFL.
14:10 NeoBokrug Elytis I'm sorry Jorge, I misspoke. Isn't Aev doing a built as well for SL21B?
14:11 Jorge Serapis Not that I'm aware of. I put her name down as a team member, but switched it out cos she was busy with RFL, and Val stepped in. She's a 3D builder in RL; I really hope people like the build!
14:11 NeoBokrug Elytis I've seen sneak previews, and it looks great.
14:11 KayCooper ooh looking forward to seeing it
14:11 Owlie Fairelander Aev has done builds in the past for SL21B. No idea about this year though.
14:12 Jorge Serapis The Guv has some stuff to lay out, but it's pretty much done.
14:12 NeoBokrug Elytis Just a few things, and I'm going to tackle it tomorrow.
14:13 Jorge Serapis Rocknroll!
14:13 NeoBokrug Elytis Caledon Stormhold had a vote last month for a 20K to 30K LI increase. It passed with a large majority, where only two folks voted no or abstained (where that counts as a no).
14:13 Zahra Ethaniel Greetings Everyone : )
14:14 KayCooper Hi Zahra
14:14 Owlie Fairelander Nice.
14:14 NeoBokrug Elytis Stormhold is still being worked on and was slated to be done earlier this week. However my cat fell seriously ill (as in we go to the ER now) on Tuesday morning, and I haven't done anything in SL since. Today is the first day he's mostly normal, so things will be back to normal here soon. Just delayed.
14:15 Cynthia Farshore hopefully they won't have hard feelings about it and leave
14:15 Jorge Serapis RL health always come first.
14:15 NeoBokrug Elytis I think I forgot to include Nyree's events on the Thursday notices, and now I feel way bad.
14:15 Owlie Fairelander Poor kitty.
14:16 Zahra Ethaniel I'm glad he is feeling better
14:16 NeoBokrug Elytis I have been nursing him the past few days. He got home on Thursday evening.
14:17 NeoBokrug Elytis I just got done giving him a bath right before this.
14:17 Zahra Ethaniel nice :)
14:17 NeoBokrug Elytis I do have a question for folks here, as I got a strange request from someone about an event they want to have.
14:17 Owlie Fairelander Bathing cats sounds dangerous.
14:17 NeoBokrug Elytis I do not know that they are affiliated with Caledon, and I was wondering if anyone had heard of the "Willow Scout Cookie Sale"
14:17 Jorge Serapis Not me.
14:18 Zahra Ethaniel nor I
14:18 KayCooper I haven't either
14:18 Jan Stroikavskoi Not I
14:18 Owlie Fairelander Maybe? There was a group with that name or similar in Mieville that did that.
14:18 NeoBokrug Elytis He was very well behaved, I think he liked the warm water, and gentle scrubs. And he's smart enough to know he's very dirty from his whole ordeal.
14:18 Owlie Fairelander Not sure they rented in Mieville but they'd have scout cookie sales events at times in Mieville.
14:19 NeoBokrug Elytis I guess regardin the cookie sale, I will ask the hard questions directly do them. I had asked some EMs here, and so far no one has heard of them.
14:19 Owlie Fairelander But it was back under Perrwyn's rule.
14:19 KayCooper they seem to have a facebook page
14:19 Cynthia Farshore can state I never heard of them
14:19 Zahra Ethaniel So, would it be a RFL fundraiser?
14:19 NeoBokrug Elytis I don't know if it is an RP thing, or a legit fund raiser, or an illegitimate fund-raiser or what. I'll find out. I just wanted to ask here publicly to see if folks knew.
14:19 Zahra Ethaniel I imagine the funds go somewhere?
14:19 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) no
14:19 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) to themselves
14:20 Zahra Ethaniel ah
14:20 NeoBokrug Elytis You know of them Andrea?
14:20 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) and their projects
14:20 Owlie Fairelander I always felt it was an RP thing and the funds went to their RP. But I don't know for facts.
14:20 Zahra Ethaniel well, then I vote no, unless they are affiliated with Caledon
14:20 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) i'll have to look for my notes
14:20 NeoBokrug Elytis Shoot me an IM, let me know what's up.
14:20 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) nods
14:21 NeoBokrug Elytis Yeah, I am all about promoting Caledon things. In the spirit of Des -- I may just say, if you want to do that, come buy some land. :)
14:21 Zahra Ethaniel right lol
14:21 NeoBokrug Elytis I gotta channel him sometimes.
14:21 Zahra Ethaniel and set up a regional HQ :)
14:22 Cynthia Farshore They have a Flickr account! https://www.flickr.com/photos/149960125@N05/albums/72177720310072040/
14:22 NeoBokrug Elytis My brain is a little frazzled. Was there something important I forgot this past month?
14:22 Owlie Fairelander Maybe...no idea. I don't know the day of the week most of the time.
14:23 NeoBokrug Elytis I feel that.
14:23 NeoBokrug Elytis I am normally pretty on task.
14:23 NeoBokrug Elytis But i dropped everyth8ing and now I need to pick it all up again.
14:24 KayCooper ...and a few things might have rolled under the couch...
14:24 Cynthia Farshore by the pictures it does look like they are part of Mieville
14:24 NeoBokrug Elytis Or at least hosting the event there.
14:25 NeoBokrug Elytis I'll ask 'em the hard questions, offer them to come set up a little spot someplace, and that'll be it. I really don't mind promoting Caledon events all day.
14:25 Owlie Fairelander I don't think they rented in Mieville though cause I remember the 'adult' of the group was upset the kids couldn't attend the Mieville show and tell cause it was only for the renters to participate, non-renters could only watch.
14:25 NeoBokrug Elytis But, I've gotta focus on our community. I don't mind of the RP selling cookies, but if they're just drumming up funds... I don't know how to feel about that.
14:26 NeoBokrug Elytis Doing stuff for the fun of it, is okay by me.
14:26 NeoBokrug Elytis Stop on by, have a good time, sure!
14:27 Owlie Fairelander Even if they set up a stand and try to sell stuff doesn't mean anyone has to buy it.
14:27 NeoBokrug Elytis True
14:28 NeoBokrug Elytis I guess I'll just ask more questions. I think right now we're just speculating.
14:28 Zahra Ethaniel nods
14:28 NeoBokrug Elytis It is good to have these discussions though, as it brings out how I'd handle such things. Lets folks voice their concerns.
14:28 Cynthia Farshore They can set up a stand on Downs,, as long as I get my 99%
14:28 NeoBokrug Elytis Haha
14:28 NeoBokrug Elytis Shaking down little girlscouts. ;)
14:29 NeoBokrug Elytis "Your free trial to kneecaps has expired."
14:29 NeoBokrug Elytis Speaking of events! What major events are upcoming this June?
14:29 NeoBokrug Elytis Anyone got anything fun planned?
14:29 Zahra Ethaniel well, if it is just RP, there doesn't seem to be any harm in that at all
14:29 Jorge Serapis Bashful Peacock tomorrow evening, 2-4 pm SLT!
14:30 NeoBokrug Elytis I will try to be there.
14:30 Jorge Serapis Pride month annual dance!
14:30 Zahra Ethaniel Yay!
14:30 Owlie Fairelander Unfortunately I will be at work while the dance is on. But it's always a fun dance!
14:30 Jorge Serapis SL21B starting 21 June, I think?
14:31 NeoBokrug Elytis Rez a cardboard standee of yourself.
14:31 Owlie Fairelander grins.
14:31 Jorge Serapis DJ Magz is spinning.. she always has some amazing music to play.
14:31 Owlie Fairelander And fun mashups.
14:32 NeoBokrug Elytis The battle of wits last weekend was a hoot.
14:32 NeoBokrug Elytis We raised quite a bit!
14:32 Owlie Fairelander This job is getting in the way of fun stuff.
14:32 NeoBokrug Elytis What was it like... L$80k in the end?
14:32 KayCooper wow
14:33 Zahra Ethaniel omgosh!
14:33 Zahra Ethaniel What a good event
14:34 Owlie Fairelander that's amazing. Hope they do it again.
14:34 NeoBokrug Elytis I think it may be an annual or bi-annual thing.
14:34 NeoBokrug Elytis Leaning towards annual. Make it nice, make it special. That way we don't have fundraising burnout.
14:35 NeoBokrug Elytis Gotta save some L$ for scout cookies. ;)
14:35 Owlie Fairelander grins
14:36 Zahra Ethaniel hehe
14:36 NeoBokrug Elytis I am still promoting events on social media for Caledon if you get them to me by Wednesday Night. They must be for the upcoming week. Between Caledon and The Wastelands it takes me about 2-4 hours to chug through everything.
14:37 NeoBokrug Elytis Hopefully, starting this month, I'll also have some ads for Caledon and Oxbridge at popular places with adboards that are ... adjacent to Caledons interests.
14:38 Cynthia Farshore Uh Guv'na I'm chatting with Olde about the Willow scouts he points out from the pictures they are child avatars this is a slippery slope
14:38 NeoBokrug Elytis Child avatars have obligations to follow new ToS rules.
14:38 Cynthia Farshore yes
14:39 NeoBokrug Elytis I will not make distinctions about folks' avatars until they prove themselves doing something wrong.
14:39 Cynthia Farshore why slippery not a cliff
14:39 KayCooper Caledon regions are generally moderate rated...can child avatars be on moderate sims or do sims have to be general?
14:39 NeoBokrug Elytis That goes for folks in general too. I give folks the benefit of the doubt. Once it is a problem we deal with it.
14:39 Owlie Fairelander Child avatars on Moderate sims according to the LL facts is fine.
14:40 KayCooper ah ok
14:40 NeoBokrug Elytis I am not 100% familiar with the new rules Kay, and I will make myself familiar with them ASAP. I think they're fine on moderate.
14:40 Owlie Fairelander Nothing much has really changed. Just a few additions to the old rules long in play.
14:41 Zahra Ethaniel As far as I have read and understand - in multiple group discussions - it boils down the the Child appearing avatar to remove themselves from a situation that is against the TOS pertaining to them
14:41 NeoBokrug Elytis There are good child avatars out there, it is a shame the bad ones make it hard for them all.
14:41 Cynthia Farshore what I read is if region is adult then NO child avatars, I believe it used to be a child could as long as not in an adult action area but now changed
14:41 NeoBokrug Elytis Yeah, that should have been the rule long ago.
14:42 Zahra Ethaniel Yes, IMO most Child appearing avatars are - and always have - been good about not being around Adult things. The only change, really, now with the TOS is they aren't supposed to be around Nudity
14:42 Owlie Fairelander None of Caledon's regions are adult.
14:42 NeoBokrug Elytis For comparison, The Wastelands is also a moderate estate, and we allow child avatars. They can certainly look the part (think of that boomerang kid from The Road Warrior), and they can be little brats -- but we completely disallow adult activities in The Wastelands.
14:43 Zahra Ethaniel Yes
14:44 NeoBokrug Elytis Having said and read all that, if anyone sees anything shady with Kid avs here, please notify estate management immediately. Caledon does not tolerate it.
14:44 Owlie Fairelander The steamlands have always had street urchins/kid avatars in some way.
14:44 Zahra Ethaniel I haven't ever seen a child avatar acting out of line here or in any Steamlands I've been
14:44 Zahra Ethaniel most are a really valuable part of our communities
14:44 NeoBokrug Elytis I agree
14:45 NeoBokrug Elytis Who else will fit down chimneys?
14:45 Jan Stroikavskoi lol
14:45 Zahra Ethaniel lol
14:45 Owlie Fairelander Fat guys that wear red?
14:45 NeoBokrug Elytis They cheat with magic.
14:45 Owlie Fairelander Dang it.
14:46 Zahra Ethaniel well, I think Child avies bring a really fun element to the community :) And, the new TOS just really kind of spelled out what was ok and not ok concerning Child avies. Most of it was common sense.
14:46 NeoBokrug Elytis Yeah, I agree.
14:46 Jan Stroikavskoi yes
14:46 KayCooper nods
14:47 Cynthia Farshore Course I have to bring up that we do have our own cherished child, Samm
14:47 Owlie Fairelander The biggest change is the kid avatars required to have modesty layers.
14:47 Zahra Ethaniel I think, though, that with the mandatory modestly panels that have to be now baked onto the skin, that was a big change for some folks. So, there was an uproar for a few weeks in the Forums until it all got clear what was required to be compliant
14:47 Cynthia Farshore https://community.secondlife.com/blogs/entry/15575-addressing-your-concerns-updates-to-our-child-avatar-policy/
14:48 Cynthia Farshore long linl for Addressing Your Concerns: Updates to Our Child Avatar Policy
14:48 NeoBokrug Elytis Before the meeting is over, any other big events coming up this month?
14:48 Owlie Fairelander Any change LL does causes an uproar until folks understand it. It's tradition.
14:48 Zahra Ethaniel yes
14:48 NeoBokrug Elytis Owlie: Every change LL makes is the end of Second Life.
14:48 NeoBokrug Elytis Always has been for 21 years now.
14:49 Owlie Fairelander The sky is falling!
14:49 Zahra Ethaniel Luckily, LL listened to some of the major concerns of the community and modified some of their directives. I think it has all kind of jelled now with everyone knowing what was required to stay in compliance :)
14:49 Cynthia Farshore I think the only thing coming at can concern Caledon is ASCOT
14:50 NeoBokrug Elytis ?
14:52 Owlie Fairelander It's the horse race event I think.
14:52 NeoBokrug Elytis Okay. :)
14:52 Zahra Ethaniel Rosehaven always does big events for it :)
14:52 Zahra Ethaniel I didn't know that Caledon did as well?
14:53 Owlie Fairelander I think a lot of folks from Caledon attend it.
14:53 Jorge Serapis either Rosehaven or Wooburn hosts Ascot.. it's a few days of social events, culminating in a horse race.
14:54 Cynthia Farshore Surely you've heard of ASCOT it's part of Relay for Life put on by Teams Aether Chrononauts Tiny Steps (ACTS)
14:54 Zahra Ethaniel Oh yes, of course
14:54 Zahra Ethaniel I just wondered if Caledon has hosted any part of it in the past, or if there are plans for this year?
14:55 Cynthia Farshore year it runs from June 17 till 23 with the main race on Saturday 22nd
14:56 NeoBokrug Elytis I am not terribly familiar with it myself. I didn't even know of ACTS until a few weeks of being the Guv
14:56 NeoBokrug Elytis So I have quite a bit of learning to do still.
14:58 NeoBokrug Elytis Since we're almost out of time. My plans for work on Caledon this month are to finish Stormhold ... hopefully this week. After that I MUST focus on something for The Wastelands until it is done -- because I've been neglecting them for quite some time. Then I can bounce between Caledon and The Wastelands with a somewhat normal pace.
14:58 NeoBokrug Elytis There will be a few NEW 30k plots available in the mountains.
14:59 NeoBokrug Elytis L$ to Prim, best value around.
14:59 NeoBokrug Elytis Well, in Caledon and The Wastelands.
14:59 NeoBokrug Elytis I almost typo'd Cakeadon.
14:59 Zahra Ethaniel /me grins
14:59 Owlie Fairelander Perfect name.
14:59 Zahra Ethaniel I like Cakeadon!!
14:59 NeoBokrug Elytis This estate is about cake now.
15:00 Zahra Ethaniel and Tea :)
15:00 Owlie Fairelander The Guv mansion could be edible!
15:00 NeoBokrug Elytis Thank you all for coming! I'll see you all around, and if you're here next month, I'll see you then for sure. :)