Caledon Community Meeting for 2024-05-11

13:58 Larky (larkylouz) Hi Word
13:59 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hi, Larky
14:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hola, Jorge
14:00 Katie (katie.canningham) Halllooooo! :)
14:00 Katie (katie.canningham) Hi Jorge and Larky and Wordsmith!
14:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Howdy, Katie
14:01 Katie (katie.canningham) oh, I forgot about the dance today
14:01 Katie (katie.canningham) maybe there won't be a town meeting then?
14:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen Another one this evening, Katie
14:01 Katie (katie.canningham) what time is the one tonight - 6?
14:02 NeoBokrug Elytis shouts COME ON UP FOLKS!
14:02 Rory Torrance (rory.torrance) jorge!
14:04 Katie (katie.canningham) Hi Zahra!
14:04 Stereo Nacht Thankies Mr. Landau Herbit! Going to drop that money now, will be right back.
14:04 Tori Landau Good night everyone °͜°
14:04 Katie (katie.canningham) Hi Owlie and Mari and Ti Stereo and Elf and Anjoux and Neogov and Tori!
14:04 Zahra Ethaniel HI there Word :)
14:04 Owlie Fairelander Night those going
14:04 Owlie Fairelander Hello Katie
14:04 Katie (katie.canningham) hands Jorge a nice cup of tea - he seemed a bit startled
14:05 Zahra Ethaniel Hello Jorge :)
14:05 NeoBokrug Elytis Okay I think we'll start! Lots to cover for this past month, so lets get goin'. :)
14:06 NeoBokrug Elytis As per the usual, we'll be covering topics about Caledon, what happened the past month, what future plans are, etc.
14:06 Larky (larkylouz) Hi Katie
14:06 Zahra Ethaniel Hi Larky :)
14:06 Larky (larkylouz) Hey Zahra
14:06 NeoBokrug Elytis I do ask that if you have a question pertaining to anything, that you ask it in local chat instead of IMing me, because hosting this meeting takes my full attention. If it is a sensitive question, please hold off on IMing me until after the meeting.
14:06 Katie (katie.canningham) Hi Larky!
14:07 NeoBokrug Elytis We got a Welcome Expo Hub upgrade. Our new build is based loosely on the old build, but expanded to be more inviting, and more representative of Caledon. I'm even recycling the old Caledon Ads Des made. If you haven't visited it, it is located here.
14:08 NeoBokrug Elytis Well, most of the old ones, as some are rather cheeky and take jabs at LL and Mainland. ;)
14:08 Owlie Fairelander I did wonder.
14:08 Mari Moonbeam those we'll bind in leather and hand out ?
14:09 NeoBokrug Elytis The expo build is best viewed with a PBR viewer. The current release of Firestorm does not support it yet.
14:09 Katie (katie.canningham) Hi Kay!
14:09 Zahra Ethaniel Hi Kay
14:09 KayCooper ohhh so the meeting is up here this time
14:09 KayCooper hi hi
14:09 Stereo Nacht Back! The coin was on fire, of course.
14:09 NeoBokrug Elytis Yeah, there was a Newcomers Ball early edition, and I figured... why change Venues?
14:09 KayCooper makes sense
14:09 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) they got the ball rolling
14:10 Stereo Nacht Good day Mr. Jarvinen!
14:10 Stereo Nacht Good evening Mr. Jorges!
14:10 NeoBokrug Elytis Based on what I know of the Community Expo program, we may or may not be invited for future upgrades.
14:10 Katie (katie.canningham) squeeeee! SPG!
14:10 NeoBokrug Elytis But, The Lindens REALLY REALLY REALLY like our build.
14:10 Zahra Ethaniel Why is that, Neo?
14:10 Stereo Nacht And Ms. Katie, and Mr. Skysmith, and everyone!
14:10 Zahra Ethaniel I think the build is awesome!
14:11 NeoBokrug Elytis The Expo Program was discussed at a Lab Gab, saying they'd roll out in waves. So either we're invited back, or not. :)
14:11 Zahra Ethaniel ah ok
14:11 NeoBokrug Elytis They want to rotate Communities in and out.
14:11 KayCooper because we're too popular and not giving any of the other communities a chance ;)
14:11 Zahra Ethaniel makes sense, yes
14:11 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Until LL changes its mind again....
14:11 NeoBokrug Elytis I'll bite that hook for an invite every time.
14:12 NeoBokrug Elytis Tangentially related, Caledon is participating in SL21B, I've delegated our contributions there to Aev and Jorge. :)
14:13 KayCooper awesome!
14:13 Zahra Ethaniel Very Nie!
14:13 Katie (katie.canningham) YAY!!!!
14:13 Owlie Fairelander They both do good builds for SLB
14:13 Zahra Ethaniel Thank you, Aev and Jorge
14:13 Zahra Ethaniel (of course Nie=nice)
14:13 Mari Moonbeam Cool
14:13 Jorge Serapis *curtsies*
14:13 NeoBokrug Elytis In the near future Caledon may be sponsors of other events, I am trying to be proactive about Caledons presence in SL, and get the word out.
14:15 NeoBokrug Elytis The Wastelands and I assume Caledon had much of its initial growth in SL from Word of Mouth, and ironically that is still the best method to let people know about a place. What would help is if you could let your friends who don't visit Caledon know we're still going strong.
14:16 NeoBokrug Elytis I AM holding back a bit on the social media, and other places until some future renovations are done on regions. When I became the Guv, Caledon was kind of this tangle of rope. Figuring out where to start, and what to pursue was hard.
14:17 Jorge Serapis .. a Gordian knot..
14:17 Owlie Fairelander You've done great with stabilizing the regions
14:17 NeoBokrug Elytis But the things I've picked up on, I've been determined to finish until it is done, even if that means untangling another knot. Case in point is Stormhold.
14:17 NeoBokrug Elytis I started renovations, got caught up in some RL mess, picked it back up this month, found out I needed to do "THE BIG AUDIT" first, and had to code up some inworld and backend systems to help me figure out the math on things.
14:18 Mari Moonbeam it's the unicorn that bites your derriere region
14:18 NeoBokrug Elytis Which is why, I went around sending folks notices if they were paying below cost in preparation for this upcoming September Tier review.
14:18 NeoBokrug Elytis Unless I have sent you an IM about your tier, you have nothing to worry about with regard to your tier this upcoming September. Only a few old plots were paying below cost.
14:19 Stereo Nacht Grandfathered?
14:19 Katie (katie.canningham) (or Grandmothered)
14:19 NeoBokrug Elytis Stereo: Pretty much that.
14:20 NeoBokrug Elytis Doing the BIG AUDIT allowed me to fix a few stray parcels that were wonky, carve out some things to become Commonwealth land with the cooperation of a few folks (FOR WHICH I AM THANKFUL).
14:20 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Airships?
14:20 NeoBokrug Elytis But the Big Audit is about 99% done, I have a few straggler parcels I need to address -- but for the most part, I got back to work on Stormhold.
14:21 Stereo Nacht takes out her pompoms to cheer on the Guv'nah
14:22 NeoBokrug Elytis Which (another knot) made me look at the region Prim allocation. So if I was going to be doing major renovations, I should know what folks want for the region they live in. So like in the past for The Wastelands, I started a vote, which I'll cover how it works here in a moment...
14:23 NeoBokrug Elytis Every person in a region gets one vote. Doesn't matter how much or how little land you own in that region, one person, one vote. It is the lesser of the evils, where the greater would be more land equals more vote.
14:23 NeoBokrug Elytis Ethics before finances there.
14:23 Zahra Ethaniel Always appreciated, Neo :)
14:23 Katie (katie.canningham) 1 vote per region?
14:23 Zahra Ethaniel Hi there Aev :)
14:23 Zahra Ethaniel Hi Kara :)
14:24 Katie (katie.canningham) Hi Lady Aeval!
14:24 Stereo Nacht Good day Lady Aeval-Leigh!
14:24 Lady Aeval-Leigh of Speirling (aeval.fae) Hi hi :)
14:24 NeoBokrug Elytis One vote for each person in a specific region. So if you own multiple regions, it is like voting in different elections.
14:24 Katie (katie.canningham) Hi Kara!
14:24 Katie (katie.canningham) okies!
14:24 KayCooper Hi Kara Hi Lady Aev
14:24 NeoBokrug Elytis I set a HIGH majority of 75% to pass, that way I don't have to have myself become a tie-breaker.
14:25 Kara of the bright smile (kara2016) Smiles brightly for Lady Aev.
14:25 NeoBokrug Elytis I inform folks one by one in that region, what their new prims per parcel will be, and what the new tier costs for that parcel will be.
14:27 NeoBokrug Elytis Because the tier rates for Caledon are ALL OVER THE PLACE, instead of jacking tier up to my ideal rates plus 20%, I am going based on what folks are currently paying for tier, and then around 20% more. I say around because I want to make sure cost is being paid, and that it's not going to exceed what ideal rates are.
14:28 NeoBokrug Elytis I basically have a gigantic spreadsheet built to help me set prices, build algorithms to propose fair rates.
14:28 Kara of the bright smile (kara2016) sounds good.
14:28 NeoBokrug Elytis Right now, most people are paying less than the ideal market rates for a Community Estate. And I think I am fine with that for the next year after this September.
14:29 NeoBokrug Elytis However, I plan to make changes that old tier rates do not transition with parcel sales or transfers. New or Abandoned parcels will always have new rates.
14:30 Owlie Fairelander Des had been making that change for a while as well. Not sure if he kept up with it though.
14:30 Zahra Ethaniel How would that work if you sell a parcel that is at the old rate?
14:30 NeoBokrug Elytis I think that is a fair compromise. Caledon is technically a business, and I'm trying to find a balance where it is affordable and my efforts here allow me to dedicate all the time I put in.
14:30 Zahra Ethaniel with the transfer, I mean
14:31 NeoBokrug Elytis Des is also a bit more ruthless than me. ;)
14:31 NeoBokrug Elytis Zahra; I think it'll become part of the covenant this September. That if you're selling land, you must let the buyer know the new rates via parcel description or title.
14:31 Zahra Ethaniel ah ok
14:31 NeoBokrug Elytis Just like I ask that people let them know how much time is left.
14:31 Zahra Ethaniel yes
14:32 NeoBokrug Elytis Reselling land in Caledon is new to everyone, so it'll take some adjustment.
14:32 NeoBokrug Elytis Any questions about all of that so far?
14:32 Mari Moonbeam Will the parcel tell us, since not all parcels are a set 512, 1024 2048m anymore?
14:32 NeoBokrug Elytis No, but folks can ask me and I can look it up.
14:32 NeoBokrug Elytis I can maybe add it to the parcel lamp-posts.
14:33 Mari Moonbeam Thanks
14:33 NeoBokrug Elytis "If you sell your land, the weekly tier would be X"
14:34 NeoBokrug Elytis Any other questions about anything so far?
14:35 NeoBokrug Elytis My immediate plans are to finish working on Stormhold now that I have it mostly free from the big twine ball. The broad brush strokes of terraforming are done. Now it just needs a lot of decor. I hope to have it fully done in the next 2 weeks.
14:35 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Aiships?
14:35 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) *airships?
14:36 Zahra Ethaniel It looks like there are some very nice parcels over there :)
14:36 Mari Moonbeam Vu lots!
14:36 NeoBokrug Elytis Trains, Airships, Ferrys, and Submarines are all on the whiteboard, pretty high in priority. I have made some progress with the code here this past month actually.
14:36 Zahra Ethaniel Oh yay
14:37 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) No minisub going through Oxbridge plaza this time?
14:37 Katie (katie.canningham) ooo submarines!
14:37 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Or multiplying behind the Lecture Hall?
14:37 Larky (larkylouz) Wot, Mr. Elfbiter? You want to do away with the local color????
14:37 Owlie Fairelander grins...Minisubs going through the plaza is a fun idea!
14:37 Larky (larkylouz) ;^)
14:37 Jorge Serapis the subs have been gone close to ten years now, Elfie.. it's OK to let it go.
14:38 Larky (larkylouz) lol
14:38 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) That is, minisubs used to do that...
14:38 NeoBokrug Elytis However, after Stormhold I need to take a break from Caledon renovations and big projects. I have been neglecting The Wastelands Community Gateway for too long, and I need to get it done this quarter. I have pretty much focused ALL of my time working on Caledon these past 9 months, so I've got to save a project before it's gone.
14:38 Lady Aeval-Leigh of Speirling (aeval.fae) Mole machines :)
14:39 Zahra Ethaniel Thank you for your attention to Caledon, Neo, it is appreciated
14:39 KayCooper yes ty :)
14:39 NeoBokrug Elytis I am sure I'll get stuck on something for The Wastelands, and come back here to work occasionally to clear my head.
14:39 NeoBokrug Elytis Once their community gateway is done, I will be back full force working on renovations.
14:40 Mari Moonbeam Caledon :sand free
14:40 NeoBokrug Elytis The NPCs for the Wastelands Community Gateway actually share quite a bit of movement code I plan to re-purpose for the trains here.
14:40 NeoBokrug Elytis So, two birds, one stone!
14:41 KayCooper nice
14:41 Zahra Ethaniel nice
14:41 Owlie Fairelander You mean save yourself extra work? the horror of it.
14:41 NeoBokrug Elytis I also have begrudgingly resurrected my Facebook account, only so I can promote both communities there. I do not plan to use it in any personal capacity, other than to admin the pages for the communities.
14:41 NeoBokrug Elytis I have some stuff to copy paste, because I was working on it during the Newcomers ball. :)
14:42 NeoBokrug Elytis Every month I host Caledon's Flickr Photo Contest, where I pick one Winner, and a few runners up. The winner not only wins some L$, but they and all the runners up also get entered in to year end series of contests. The rules are pretty simple, and are contained in the aforementioned link.
14:42 NeoBokrug Elytis Not many entries this past month, but this months winner is Trilby with Giant Cupcake, and this months runner up is Aevalle with Prime Park.
14:42 Zahra Ethaniel congrats Trilby and Aev :)
14:42 KayCooper those are great pics!
14:42 Zahra Ethaniel congrats Trilby and Aev :)
14:42 KayCooper those are great pics!
14:43 Stereo Nacht ♩♪♫♬ APPAWS! ♩♪♫♬
14:43 Katie (katie.canningham) ♩♪♫♬ APPAWS! ♩♪♫♬
14:43 Mari Moonbeam really nice !
14:43 Katie (katie.canningham) And Trilby's wearing a Rainy Fey Creation in the pic!
14:44 Larky (larkylouz) Nice photos!
14:44 KayCooper I noticed that too, Katie :)
14:44 KayCooper I also bought that dress
14:44 Katie (katie.canningham) yay!
14:44 Katie (katie.canningham) me too!
14:44 KayCooper grins
14:44 NeoBokrug Elytis I still use Discord to help me plan and post the "upcoming events" notices I do on Thursdays. It lets me consolidate the information for posting on to various social media accounts. Here's an invite, if you're not there already. And if you have an event you want to share, shoot me an IM inworld with the title of your event, a very short description, as well as a SLURL and a TIME
14:45 NeoBokrug Elytis Invite: https://discord.gg/u6bZFaCG4y
14:45 NeoBokrug Elytis I am looking in to installing a social media manager on my home server rack, because this takes 2-3 hours or more now.
14:46 NeoBokrug Elytis Because, posting everywhere is a lot of work, and herding all the cats is just as much work. :)
14:46 NeoBokrug Elytis Any questions about any of that so far?
14:46 Mari Moonbeam are we the cats?
14:46 Katie (katie.canningham) meow
14:46 Stereo Nacht Herded.
14:46 Katie (katie.canningham) meowvalous!
14:46 Lady Aeval-Leigh of Speirling (aeval.fae) purrs
14:46 NeoBokrug Elytis Yes.
14:46 NeoBokrug Elytis Haha
14:47 Mari Moonbeam thought so :))
14:47 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) leaves cats to Silver Moon
14:48 NeoBokrug Elytis Feel free to shoot me an IM if anyone has a question ever.
14:48 NeoBokrug Elytis I typically get back to folks within a couple hours.
14:49 NeoBokrug Elytis Unless anyone has anything to bring up; open floor for upcoming events discussion?
14:49 Katie (katie.canningham) The dance tonight is at 6?
14:50 Stereo Nacht Anyone can build a window-insert with a cat door for my typist? Then she could sleep longer in the morning... ;-)
14:50 Stereo Nacht 7pm, Ms. Katie.
14:50 Katie (katie.canningham) thankee Ti Stereo!
14:50 Stereo Nacht welkies!
14:50 KayCooper Fantasy Faire scrambled my brain and for some reason I thought the ball was next week >.<
14:51 Stereo Nacht Aw!
14:51 Katie (katie.canningham) well, and the boat race is next week I think
14:51 Owlie Fairelander it is
14:51 NeoBokrug Elytis I bought so much decor from Fantasy Faire
14:51 KayCooper yeah I think that's how I got confused
14:51 Zahra Ethaniel I need to go practice :)
14:51 NeoBokrug Elytis I will deploy it on Caledon SOON(tm)
14:51 KayCooper I will be there later tonight though!
14:51 Stereo Nacht Tomorrow is the silly sword En Garde tournament.
14:51 Zahra Ethaniel Oh fun, Neo!
14:51 Stereo Nacht (Still not done scripting that flamingo...)
14:51 Owlie Fairelander oh gods...not....soon!
14:51 Lady Aeval-Leigh of Speirling (aeval.fae) There's a parade coming up too but I think the deets are still being worked out
14:52 KayCooper so many things!
14:52 KayCooper will try to pay attention to her notices
14:52 NeoBokrug Elytis Also, if anyone has any parcel land that is under a path in Caledon, I am interested in giving it back to Commonwealth. I am not going to FORCE anyone, but I'll adjust your prim counts and tier at a pro-rated rate.
14:53 Zahra Ethaniel oh, I think I have a bunch in Mayfair that is under paths
14:53 Lady Aeval-Leigh of Speirling (aeval.fae) Prime too
14:53 NeoBokrug Elytis Haha that is a special case. We'll figure that out
14:53 Zahra Ethaniel ok :)
14:53 NeoBokrug Elytis Prime and II are my biggest onces.
14:53 Owlie Fairelander Prime is a major path problem child.
14:54 NeoBokrug Elytis Heh yeaaaah
14:55 NeoBokrug Elytis And major concerns anyone wants to bring up, any last questions for me?
14:55 NeoBokrug Elytis I do have to head out at the top of the hour, so lets get 'em in.
14:56 Jorge Serapis I don't think I have any, but if I do, just swipe the meterage.
14:56 Katie (katie.canningham) The transcript will be in the usual place, yes?
14:56 Jorge Serapis Blanket permission and all that.
14:56 NeoBokrug Elytis I believe that's for Word, and I want to thank him for continuing to keep records of these meetings.
14:57 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes, I have my burlap bag ready for a transcript capture
14:57 Katie (katie.canningham) thankee Wordsmith!
14:57 KayCooper ty Word
14:57 Stereo Nacht Thank you!
14:57 Zahra Ethaniel Thanks for doing that, Word it is very helpful
14:57 Stereo Nacht Great helpers make organizing stuff so much easier.
14:58 Zahra Ethaniel Oh nice
14:58 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Well, Oxbridge would still need teachers...
14:59 Wordsmith Jarvinen Nest month I'll need someone else to capture the transcript and send it to me. I'll be in Portland, OR for a conference.
14:59 Stereo Nacht Good for you!
14:59 NeoBokrug Elytis I can probably copy-paste my logs to you.
14:59 NeoBokrug Elytis Thank you for coming everyone.
14:59 Owlie Fairelander Thank you for having these, Neo
14:59 Katie (katie.canningham) I hope the conference goes well
14:59 Stereo Nacht ♩♪♫♬ APPAWS! ♩♪♫♬
14:59 KayCooper Ty Neo, and everyone
14:59 Zahra Ethaniel Thank you, Neo, as always
14:59 Katie (katie.canningham) ♩♪♫♬ APPAWS! ♩♪♫♬
15:00 Stereo Nacht And now, the typist will take a nap, so she can stay awake during the late Newcomers' Ball.
15:00 Zahra Ethaniel Good to see everyone :) I need to run
15:00 Stereo Nacht See you later, everybuddy!
15:00 Zahra Ethaniel hope to see you later
15:00 Katie (katie.canningham) TC Zahra!
15:00 Stereo Nacht curtsies
15:00 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Okay, attempted bedtime
15:00 KayCooper take care
15:00 Katie (katie.canningham) good luck Elf!
15:00 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Hold the fort
15:00 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Be seeing you
15:00 Katie (katie.canningham) cheers!