| 13:46 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Good afternoon everyone. |
| 13:47 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Greetings Neo :) |
| 13:47 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Hi Everyone :) |
| 13:47 |
Kara of the bright smile (kara2016) |
Smiles brightly for Zahra. |
| 13:47 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
hi zahra |
| 13:47 |
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Zahra Ethaniel smies |
| 13:47 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Hi, Zahra :) |
| 13:47 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
*Smiles* even lol |
| 13:49 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
I hope everyone is doing fine today |
| 13:49 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Been running around all day. Now I am collecting my thoughts for the meeting. :) |
| 13:49 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Ah, very good then |
| 13:52 |
Kara of the bright smile (kara2016) |
those are some very long nails you have thee, Kamilah.. |
| 13:52 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
sharp too |
| 13:52 |
Kara of the bright smile (kara2016) |
I bet. |
| 13:53 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
The back hooks prevent prey from escaping, but sadly no pockets. |
| 13:53 |
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Zahra Ethaniel laughs |
| 13:53 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
:D |
| 13:53 |
Kara of the bright smile (kara2016) |
Smiles brightly for Kamilah. |
| 13:54 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
AFk for water |
| 13:55 |
KayCooper |
wow impressive chairs Andrea and Nyree :) |
| 13:55 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Those Ferrets are very cute |
| 13:55 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
thank you kay |
| 13:55 |
Aury (aurysa) |
hello everyone |
| 13:55 |
KayCooper |
Hi Aury |
| 13:55 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
the noises are adorable |
| 13:55 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Hello :) |
| 13:55 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
welcome |
| 13:56 |
KayCooper |
oh is that what I'm hearing? |
| 13:56 |
Kara of the bright smile (kara2016) |
Hugs Aury |
| 13:56 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
took me a moment to figure it out Kay |
| 13:56 |
KayCooper |
hehe |
| 13:57 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
little chitterings |
| 13:57 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I would have been here a bit earlier, but during my outings today, the lady in front of me was trying to use a few hundred dollars of unactivated gift cards. |
| 13:58 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Eeps |
| 13:58 |
Kara of the bright smile (kara2016) |
ouch. |
| 13:58 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I am sure she must have been a bit embarrassed, but when it was time to move on, she kept telling stories about them. |
| 13:58 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
Hi Owlie! |
| 13:58 |
KayCooper |
HI Owlie |
| 13:58 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
Greetings all |
| 13:58 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Hello :) |
| 13:58 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
~*~* HEYYY YOU GUYZZZZZ!!!! *~*~ |
| 13:58 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
very cute Katie |
| 13:59 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
thankee DME! |
| 13:59 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Hi everyone |
| 14:00 |
KayCooper |
Hi Larky |
| 14:00 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
Hi Guv! |
| 14:00 |
KayCooper |
Hi Katie |
| 14:00 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
hullo Larky |
| 14:00 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
Hi Kay! |
| 14:00 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Good afternoon everyone. :) |
| 14:00 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
passes neo a leg of lamb |
| 14:00 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
right off the fire pit |
| 14:01 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I'll give it another couple minutes for the fashionably folks to show up. :) |
| 14:01 |
KayCooper |
Hello Elenabeth |
| 14:01 |
Elenabeth Portal |
Hello |
| 14:02 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Alright! Let's start. :) |
| 14:03 |
Kara of the bright smile (kara2016) |
Hugs Elenabeth. |
| 14:04 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
This past month has been busy in Caledon. Caledon Carraig Neamhai is done, and Zahra is the Duchess there. Caledon Dream has become Caledon Rose, and Owlie is the Duke there. Both regions are turning out pretty great! I know they're both still working on them, but if you have time -- do check out their creations. :) |
| 14:05 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
they look smart |
| 14:05 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Everyone is very welcome to come explore around Neamhai :) |
| 14:05 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
very pretty |
| 14:05 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
Lots to explore in Rose, underwater, sky, sailing/boating etc. |
| 14:05 |
KayCooper |
I love exploring |
| 14:06 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Caledon Tamrannoch is the first region to get some full region ambiance sounds. I plan to add these full region ambiances to most regions of Caledon. Right now a couple regions in The Wastelands are being the guinea pigs for us, as I dial in object positioning and volume, as to not be too overwhelming. |
| 14:06 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
All still very much "In Progress", but, there are some interesting parts :) |
| 14:07 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Owlie, Zahra, any interest in having a house-warming party? |
| 14:07 |
Provost Weatherwax |
Ah, the Tamrannoch, location of the First Library |
| 14:07 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
I'd be very glad to! |
| 14:07 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
yep. Plans in the works with Nyree |
| 14:07 |
KayCooper |
awesome |
| 14:07 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
I'll have to line up Tao, then :) |
| 14:08 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I know 20 avs isn't a lot, but I think you can make it work. |
| 14:08 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
Indeed. But it'll be after Fantasy Faire |
| 14:08 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
av bounce party on 30 minute timer |
| 14:08 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
I thought the limit could be set to 25 or thirty now? |
| 14:08 |
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Zahra Ethaniel chuckles |
| 14:08 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
No, just 20, and with a little bit of magic cheating 21. |
| 14:09 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
Suggestion for ambient sounds, have an identifiable prim for someone who doesn't deal well with them to derender the object. |
| 14:10 |
Mari Moonbeam |
or find it in sound explorer and block it there |
| 14:10 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Smart, I think they're going to be about 10m in the air -- transparent of course, but still easy to see and mute. |
| 14:10 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
good idea |
| 14:11 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
Mustremember that many of us obsessed nerds are freakishly good at this maze of User Interface that is SL, and that isn't the normal experience for normal users. |
| 14:11 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
One can turn down sounds in the viewer, which I did now to get rid of distracting sounds. Upper right speaker icon |
| 14:11 |
Mari Moonbeam |
sound explorer,under top world menu on FS |
| 14:11 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Both The Wastelands and Caledon had a bit of an occupancy slip this past month. I think once US Tax season is over, and spring break is over, it should rebound a bit. |
| 14:12 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
And yeah, regarding the ambiance sounds, that is why The Wastelands is taking it on the chin for us -- to help me dial in the positioning of things, and volume of things. So it is not an annoyance. |
| 14:13 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I built a scripted object to help me place them, that way I don't have to nudge 65+ object per region. |
| 14:13 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
Even distribution is helpful so headphones don't get it all in one ear. |
| 14:13 |
Mari Moonbeam |
[sound explorer tip- pause log until you ID the bothersome sound and then blacklist it] |
| 14:14 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Speaking of regions and objects; LL changed how Mesh is calculated -- so things you have rezzed now may have a lower LI than before. You may have some free prims. |
| 14:14 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
No seagulls, please.. |
| 14:14 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
woohoo |
| 14:14 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
All seagulls, all the time. Got it. :) |
| 14:14 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
I'm interested in this ambiance. I'll have to bug you about it later. |
| 14:14 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
the seagulls at the Port are nice |
| 14:14 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Absolutely. |
| 14:15 |
Mari Moonbeam |
I scored 34 extra on 312 a- got a chicken and yes, barnyard sound cube |
| 14:15 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Yeah, I snuck them in. :) |
| 14:15 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
thankee |
| 14:15 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
I think Ambient sounds are wonderful when done right. Maybe when they get deployed, there could be a group notice to people about how to turn off (restrict) sounds in their parcels? I find a lot of people aren't aware of that in the parcels sound field |
| 14:15 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Yeah, I will post something along those lines Zahra. |
| 14:16 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
One irregular returning trolls likes seagull noisemakers... |
| 14:16 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Once I get everything dialed in, and I start deploying and fine tuning, I'll send a notice out. |
| 14:16 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Oh good :) |
| 14:17 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I am currently working on Stormhold -- and unfortunately I had to pause my work last week, this week, and this upcoming week. RL is getting a bit busy -- but I am still on top of it. |
| 14:17 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
There's good reason for the delay though. |
| 14:17 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
That's why I have scripts that delete seagull sounds and send the person rezzing them home, at Oxbridge, Elfbiter |
| 14:17 |
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Zahra Ethaniel giggles at Word |
| 14:18 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
Tora!!!! |
| 14:18 |
Mari Moonbeam |
makes note to get seagull ava |
| 14:18 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
Hi! |
| 14:18 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
The Caledon Expo kiosk we've had at the SL WelcomeHub is getting an upgrade. We were invited back for the next round of Expo builds, and our new build is about twice as big! |
| 14:18 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Yeah, I know :-) |
| 14:18 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Oh, you have no idea, Zahra! |
| 14:18 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
ooo |
| 14:18 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
The lindens have already given me a few compliments on it. |
| 14:18 |
Mari Moonbeam |
Congrats Neo! |
| 14:18 |
KayCooper |
nice! |
| 14:18 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
YAY!!!! |
| 14:18 |
Magda Kamenev (magdalena.kamenev) |
But does it work for ravens, Word? |
| 14:18 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
wooo!! |
| 14:18 |
Magda Kamenev (magdalena.kamenev) |
Congrats, Neo. |
| 14:18 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Excellent! |
| 14:19 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Perhaps we'll have a nicer place in the 3rd round as well. :) |
| 14:19 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I snuck in the old Caledon Ads there too. |
| 14:20 |
Elenabeth Portal |
Is Caledon Oxbridge now a place where new people can first rez like it was when I started in SL? |
| 14:20 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Yes. |
| 14:20 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
sweet! |
| 14:20 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Depends on what they rez, of course. |
| 14:21 |
Elenabeth Portal |
No. I meant is it a place where they can start Second Life? |
| 14:21 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
If anyone wants to sign up some alts in the future: https://join.independentstateofcaledon.com/ |
| 14:21 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
I think Elenabeth means this is where people first land in SL. Instead of Welcome Island. |
| 14:21 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
There has been several newcomers lately. Not in the scale of past influz of Brazilians but rather lively bunch. |
| 14:21 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Is there a count of how many new residents have come through the Portal since it has been opened again? |
| 14:21 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Feel free to share that with your friends who aren't in SL. |
| 14:22 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
No, it's specific to seagulls, Magda. Haven't had the need to extend it to ravens, even if they steal the light. |
| 14:22 |
Mari Moonbeam |
SeagullHighVolume resident , I call dibs |
| 14:22 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Hmm, not really. I don't keep track of such metrics. I know LL does. |
| 14:22 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Ah |
| 14:22 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Wordsmith has some statistics, I think |
| 14:22 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
well, good to hear there are several New-comers |
| 14:23 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Caledon also has a bit of partnership with the engine room. :) |
| 14:23 |
KayCooper |
I saw the posters |
| 14:23 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
saw the signs there, nice |
| 14:23 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Yes, looks good there |
| 14:23 |
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Katie (katie.canningham) squees with delight |
| 14:23 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
They've got a sign for Oxbridge front and center when you land there. |
| 14:24 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
nice!! |
| 14:24 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I know a bunch of folks have clicked it. I do have a little bit of metrics on that. |
| 14:25 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Any other questions or comments about any of that before I move on? |
| 14:25 |
Elenabeth Portal |
Not from me. |
| 14:26 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
As Elf said: Oxbridge has weekly and monthly summary statistics: https://www.caledonoxbridge.org/statistics/index.php |
| 14:26 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Oh wonderful, thanks for that information |
| 14:27 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
And I've added the Engine Room to the ad panels in front of the main lecture hall at Oxbridge. |
| 14:28 |
Magda Kamenev (magdalena.kamenev) |
\o/ |
| 14:28 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Lets speak of tier reminders. I assume that you, like me, hate getting bombarded with a bajillion IMs. Currently, each meter will send you an IM if you are soon to be due, or overdue. This is different than in The Wastelands, which has what I think is a much better system. |
| 14:29 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
what is that system? |
| 14:29 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
The way I do things in The Wastelands is I have that estate bot send each resident who is almost due, or overdue a single IM with a list of parcels. |
| 14:29 |
Mari Moonbeam |
jail |
| 14:29 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Sometimes two if you have A LOT of land. |
| 14:29 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Haha |
| 14:29 |
|
Lady Aeval-Leigh of Speirling (aeval.fae) wonders what a Wastelands corn field would look like |
| 14:30 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
very dry and dead :-P |
| 14:30 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Would anyone be opposed if I brought that over to Caledon? Basically the meters would not send you an IM anymore, but Wallace Whipple would instead send you an IM or two. |
| 14:30 |
Mari Moonbeam |
empty bottles of corn liquor |
| 14:30 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
I'm all for Whipple. |
| 14:30 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
LOTS haha |
| 14:30 |
KayCooper |
Doesn't bother me |
| 14:30 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
and I don't squeeze the charmin |
| 14:30 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
seems ok... as long as Caledon is somehow mentioned so my filters catch it |
| 14:30 |
Mari Moonbeam |
Yes , he writes nice notes |
| 14:31 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Well, for me, I like having the meters giving notice. Since I am always trying to juggle them to get them close to the same day due |
| 14:31 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Haha thanks! I try. |
| 14:31 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
the wastelands has collection plates |
| 14:31 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I know I have a lot to do, but that's been bugging me for months. |
| 14:31 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Although, Wallace does send very nice notes about the land concerns :) |
| 14:31 |
Elenabeth Portal |
How far ahead do your meters allow tier to be paid? |
| 14:31 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
if you have an alt, you can donate to your own land, and that will allow you to bring everything concurrent |
| 14:31 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
Should have had Whipple years ago. |
| 14:32 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Same as Caledon. Des once told me that's probably the sweet spot - 12 weeks. |
| 14:32 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
Neo had to add Wallace to the estate management because I kept estate kicking him. |
| 14:32 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Haha |
| 14:32 |
Nyree Rain |
I do want advance notice. I had a problem this month because we were traveling and I had no access to my computer and forgot to pay tier ahead before we left. Luckily I caught one notice when I managed to log in on my son's computer, and of course I was unable to buy lindens, but luckily had enough in my account to extend all my parcels until I got home and could take care of them. |
| 14:32 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I don't think he's an EM. |
| 14:33 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
I was kidding. |
| 14:33 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
So far. |
| 14:33 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Oh good thing, Nyree |
| 14:33 |
Mari Moonbeam |
is Wally as handsome a Basil at Contraption? |
| 14:33 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
good question, mari! :-D |
| 14:33 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
We also have the grace period policy. Basically for every month of tenancy here, you get an additional day of grace period up to 14 days. |
| 14:34 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Mari - Not at all |
| 14:34 |
Elenabeth Portal |
Mr. Whipple only got out of prison a few years ago, after being convicted of assault on some poor woman who he claimed was "mishandling" the toilet paper at the grocery store he managed. It is kind of Neo to give this man a second chance in a world where no one has any need for toilet paper (outside of some specific groups of fetishist). |
| 14:34 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
And even if you're having trouble paying tier because something happened, just send me an IM or email, and we can talk about it. |
| 14:35 |
Mari Moonbeam |
that explains why the loo is hidden in the tunnel in VicCity |
| 14:35 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I am always willing to work with residents who have SL issues. |
| 14:35 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
The rub is if I don't know what is going on, and I have to assume the worst by default. |
| 14:35 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
So just contact me somehow. Inworld IM, an email, even discord. |
| 14:36 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
And generally, you don't have to worry about tier until I start sending you personal IMs. :) |
| 14:36 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
good to know |
| 14:36 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
The meters do the normal notices, I typically don't bug folks until the 3rd day. |
| 14:36 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
And even then, it's just how I operate. Checking up on folks. I am certainly not trying to nag -- but sometimes we just forget things. That's what I typically assume. |
| 14:36 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
I get a three day nag and then I think it was a two day nag, by then I'm on my way. |
| 14:37 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
And people end up in hospitals... |
| 14:37 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
I appreciate the meters giving a few warnings, I am typically running around doing a bunch of things and sometimes need that little prod to go take care of business with them :) |
| 14:38 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
But no one seems really opposed to the tier overdue notice. When we flip, I'll send out some group notices, and I'll be sure to stay vigilant on my manual overdue notices when we switch to that system. |
| 14:38 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Ah, so, we are going to that system? |
| 14:39 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I really want to make a "Letting Office" wing in the Guvnah's mansion, that way folks can have all the free tools I make, as well as a place to find land. |
| 14:39 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I think so Zahra -- it won't be a fast thing. I still have Stormhold to work on. |
| 14:39 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
gotcha |
| 14:40 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
But now that it's been 7 months since I took over, there's some changes on the back-end of my tier system I want to address. If I get crazy inspired I might be able to make the changes in a day. However, I still have obligations to fulfill. |
| 14:40 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
So it'll land when it does. |
| 14:40 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Any other questions about tier? |
| 14:40 |
Magda Kamenev (magdalena.kamenev) |
Any way we can pay way far ahead at times? |
| 14:41 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Beyond 12 weeks? No. However, there's a work-around for that. |
| 14:41 |
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Lady Aeval-Leigh of Speirling (aeval.fae) would suggest that, once the lending office is completed, that there are signboards put up in the main intersections of the nation that direct interested renters to the location. |
| 14:41 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
that'd be nice for the wastelands too. |
| 14:41 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Good idea, Aev |
| 14:41 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I have the auto-tier-paying cog. Set one up on each parcel you have, and keep your SL account flush with L$, and it'll pay tier for you. |
| 14:41 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
"For I have promises to keep, and miles to go before I sleep, and Miles to go before I sleep" -- Robert Frost |
| 14:42 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I plan to Aev, and I was going to touch on that a bit here in a bit. |
| 14:42 |
Kara of the bright smile (kara2016) |
<..chews on her bit.. |
| 14:43 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
10010101110101 |
| 14:43 |
Mari Moonbeam |
Miles is a seagull ? ''Miles to go before I sleep" |
| 14:43 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
The tier paying cog was originally designed for folks who went on vacations, or wanted insurance in case of emergencies. However, I think about half of the folks in The Wastelands use that as their primary way to pay tier. |
| 14:43 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
tempting |
| 14:43 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Kind of a set-it-and-forget-it device. |
| 14:44 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
but I'm working on an auto-laundry cog... so no stealing the idea |
| 14:44 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Any other questions about tier, as I scroll back to make sure I don't miss any. |
| 14:44 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
I'm sure Neo's auto pay is more reliable than any utilities company with their OOPS double payment and they'll refund you in six months. Maybe. |
| 14:45 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
MAN. I've been burned by that. I played an online game that dinged me 16 months of payments in a day. |
| 14:46 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
Never buy a Tesla close to year end. haha, you might be padding the earnings with your second purchase price. |
| 14:46 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Or just... Never buy a Tesla. |
| 14:46 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Haha |
| 14:46 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Anyway. |
| 14:46 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Moving on to MORE bot features. |
| 14:47 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Another thing the estate bot in The Wastelands does, it is sends out an IM once every 30 days when a person lands on the estate (but only after they've been there for 30 seconds. |
| 14:47 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
This IM, tells them the basic expectations of their visit, where to see what events are going on, where to find us on social media, and if they're interested in land -- where to find that. |
| 14:48 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Again, I hate being nagged -- so that's why it's only once every 30 days. |
| 14:48 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
How do you feel if Wallace adopted something similar? |
| 14:48 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
I have been told that Tesla's can "go home" if you stop paying... |
| 14:48 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
Wasteland's nagbot is very reasonable. |
| 14:48 |
Darlingmonster Ember |
nods |
| 14:49 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I would probably make Oxbridge exempt from this, because new users to SL have enough to tangle with. |
| 14:49 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
Let Whipple have at it. |
| 14:49 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
And IMs are scary. |
| 14:49 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
yes |
| 14:49 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
and kind of off-putting to new explorers sometimes |
| 14:50 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
The bot also has translations, but I'd need help with translations for Wallace. |
| 14:50 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
like, people might not like the feeling of being tracked when they come visit places here |
| 14:51 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
But, maybe it would be good for retention and advertisement |
| 14:51 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Wallace and Unbridled Rage do speak back to me in discord, but only when they gets direct IMs. I built both of these things in very poorly coded C#, but they work. |
| 14:51 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
Maybe have another bot called The Friendly Greeter or something like that? |
| 14:51 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
And honestly -- unbridled rage gets A LOT of "Thank You"s |
| 14:51 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
ah ok |
| 14:52 |
Mari Moonbeam |
What results do you expect from the 30 message? |
| 14:52 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
have to admit, I block greeters the second I touch down and the message pops up. |
| 14:52 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
"Jack the Greeter" |
| 14:52 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
eeek |
| 14:52 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
haha |
| 14:52 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Ultimately better awareness for Caledon. I originally made the bot to handle a lot of minor grief garbage and "sandbox" issues we had. |
| 14:52 |
Mari Moonbeam |
"unbridled rage" oh it's a club, invite me |
| 14:53 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
The IM basically nipped that in the bud. It immediately toned down our problems. |
| 14:53 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
But Caledon doesn't have those problems. |
| 14:53 |
Lady Aeval-Leigh of Speirling (aeval.fae) |
Not recently. |
| 14:53 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
I think those were several years ago, but, there were some |
| 14:53 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
Des was always really bad at getting info out to folks about how to rent in Caledon, and how to connect with other community members --the bot greeter is a much needed tool to help direct folks to help with get folks interested. Neo understands that need. |
| 14:53 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
yes, not in the last few years |
| 14:53 |
Magda Kamenev (magdalena.kamenev) |
Would there be a way to turn it off? If I am hosting something for mundanes, I don't want them to feel like they're getting a spiel to come live here just for attending a dance. |
| 14:53 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
And tacking on links to where you can find out more information about what is going on in Caledon, where to become a part of the community, and how to find out information on your own, has a lot of benefit. |
| 14:53 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
Caledon's problems in that energy path are more shaped like, leveraging social niceties to engage in manipulative behaviour. |
| 14:54 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Owlie -- HAHA YEAH. Ravelli and I just updated some notecards that had "SLURL_HERE" in them. |
| 14:54 |
Elenabeth Portal |
Desmond was not really bad at it so much as not having time to devote to it. |
| 14:54 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Magda: There is no turn-off option |
| 14:54 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
Desmond could have delegated, Desmond had options he did not use or make. |
| 14:55 |
Mari Moonbeam |
ooo you're good Kami, that was a 3 read sentence |
| 14:55 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Everyone gets a notice once a month at most. |
| 14:55 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Maybe the greeter bot will only contact folks that come on Commonwealth land? |
| 14:55 |
Elenabeth Portal |
Desmond had good legal reasons to be wary of delegation. |
| 14:55 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
I have had tons of discussions over the years with Desmond about it. |
| 14:56 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Zahra, I thought about that in The Wastelands as well -- but the problem was if people don't get the notice they'd misbehave, or just be confused as to where they are. |
| 14:56 |
Mari Moonbeam |
to be honest when I go to WL the message bugs me and I'm afraid to mute it in case I mute a channel to you and your accts Neo; I like to feel I roam "unnoticed" |
| 14:57 |
Magda Kamenev (magdalena.kamenev) |
I personally get aggravated by anything that sends me regular notices without an opt-out function. |
| 14:57 |
Mari Moonbeam |
which is silly in a world with radar and what is she wearing HUDs |
| 14:57 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I feel yah Magda. My take on it is -- it is a sign on the front door of a place you're visiting. |
| 14:58 |
Mari Moonbeam |
yes an opt out THAT message but not mute the bot/alt |
| 14:58 |
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Kamilah Hauptmann has an arrived in sim notice turned on in Firestorm and a chat range entry chime. :| |
| 14:58 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Its a weird thing to balance. We'll table the discussion for later. I won't put it on Caledon yet. |
| 14:59 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I think at the very least everyone should see it once, and perhaps visit an inworld place to choose to opt-out. That can be do-able with some work on my end. |
| 14:59 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Oh the opt-out kiosk would be a great thing |
| 14:59 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
The only bad thing about muting the bot, is you wouldn't get tier notices. |
| 15:00 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Any other questions or comments about anything? |
| 15:00 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
that would be bad |
| 15:00 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
but, then that is predicated on the Bot handling the tier notices and not the meters as is current here |
| 15:00 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
Visit nowhere. 'Reply to this IM with Opt out to never hear it again.' Like automated text messaged. |
| 15:00 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Right |
| 15:01 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
might be a thing to have two bots? |
| 15:01 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
one just the Friendly Greeter bot, like Katie mentioned |
| 15:01 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Eh, I am opposed to it. |
| 15:01 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
More for me to maintain and keep track of. |
| 15:01 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Streamlined, thy name is Neo! :) |
| 15:01 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
(jk) |
| 15:02 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
haha |
| 15:02 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
:D |
| 15:02 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
"Whatever it is, I'm against it" Groucho Marx |
| 15:02 |
Nyree Rain |
Speaking of bots is this one bot per sim? Or one for all of Caledon? If It is one per sim, do we get a greeting every time we cross a sim line? |
| 15:02 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I have about 5 or 6 bots living on that raspberry pi. |
| 15:02 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
One bot for the entire estate. |
| 15:02 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
And the greeting is for the entire estate. |
| 15:02 |
Mari Moonbeam |
so Wally would be writing? |
| 15:02 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Yes. |
| 15:03 |
Mari Moonbeam |
hum, with affection is he the face of Caledon? |
| 15:03 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
As a visitor, he'd probably be your first interaction. |
| 15:03 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
And if you're on the fence about it all -- feel free to visit The Wastelands to see how it all works. |
| 15:04 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Let me know what you do and don't like. |
| 15:04 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I'll try to build a better machine. |
| 15:04 |
Mari Moonbeam |
thanks |
| 15:04 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
Neo, I am all for your doing things to help bring more folks to Caledon to keep it relevant and the land rented. |
| 15:05 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
I agree with that |
| 15:05 |
Elenabeth Portal |
People in Caledon embrace change. That's why we are on a platform that peaked in the early 2010s and on a victorian/steampunk estate on that platform. |
| 15:05 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
yah, me too. |
| 15:05 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Speaking of Owlie has some really inexpensive parcels in Port, with some some tier on them, if anyone is looking to expand or upgrade. |
| 15:06 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
two parcels I think |
| 15:06 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
Not sure how much tier is left on them at this point. |
| 15:06 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
have you got a list, owlie? i'd like to have at least one small parcel here to keep myself honest X-D |
| 15:06 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
let me look 'e,m up |
| 15:06 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
coolios! thanks! |
| 15:07 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
April 22nd |
| 15:07 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
For 8 and 15 |
| 15:07 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
The most powerful tool our community has to help it grow, is word of mouth. |
| 15:07 |
Elenabeth Portal |
Did you ever create an updated "how to rent land in Caledon" notecard? That would be handy. There are a lot out there that tell people to email desmondshang@gmail.com still. |
| 15:08 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Des and I, in the early days were founded upon it. |
| 15:08 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Yes, they are in Oxbridge at the moment. |
| 15:08 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
I sent the LM to one of the parcels, they are next to each other. Not small though. |
| 15:08 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
You can click the signs there. Another to-do thing for me to make new little "welcome hubs" for each region. |
| 15:08 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
thanks, owlie. i'll check them out. |
| 15:08 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
I think Wordsmith dealt with some of those old signs |
| 15:08 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
And if you're looking for ANY parcel, just open up the inworld map and click "Land Sale" |
| 15:09 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I will make a website like The Wastelands has in time. I just need to do quite a bit more before I have that sort of time free. |
| 15:09 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
okies. |
| 15:09 |
Elenabeth Portal |
Thanks. I will stop by and pick one up. |
| 15:09 |
Lady Aeval-Leigh of Speirling (aeval.fae) |
I think there's a small one in Mayfair still for grabs |
| 15:09 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
I'm good with you putting a Welcome hub in Rose if you want. |
| 15:09 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
We can work on that Owlie. |
| 15:10 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
It's 10 after, and I gotta start making dinner here soon. Any last questions or comments about anything? After that we can have an open-floor for a bit to discuss upcoming events. :) |
| 15:10 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
CAledon pounds for 2024 for all present |
| 15:10 |
Beth Ghostraven |
ooh I got here just in time! |
| 15:10 |
Elenabeth Portal |
Yes. Please. I would love one! |
| 15:10 |
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Larky (larkylouz) has to return to RL. Thanks Neo. Take care all |
| 15:10 |
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Lady Aeval-Leigh of Speirling (aeval.fae) waves. Yes, please :) |
| 15:10 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
In the pipe |
| 15:11 |
Beth Ghostraven |
Thank you, Kami! |
| 15:11 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
No problem, thanks for attending everyone! |
| 15:11 |
Elenabeth Portal |
Thank you so very much Kamilah! |
| 15:11 |
Owlie Bonesworth (jayleden.miles) |
Thank you, Kamilah |
| 15:11 |
KayCooper |
Thank you! |
| 15:11 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
Now for 20 IMs lighting up |
| 15:11 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
OH thank you so much Kami :) |
| 15:11 |
Elenabeth Portal |
Bye! |
| 15:11 |
Nyree Rain |
Thank you Kamilah. |
| 15:11 |
Magda Kamenev (magdalena.kamenev) |
Thank you, Kami. |
| 15:11 |
Beth Ghostraven |
I'll look forward to reading the transcript |
| 15:11 |
Lady Aeval-Leigh of Speirling (aeval.fae) |
Thankies :) |
| 15:12 |
Mari Moonbeam |
thank you Kami! |
| 15:12 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Okay. Attempted bedtime for me |
| 15:12 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
nini Elf! |
| 15:12 |
KayCooper |
Night Elf |
| 15:12 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Sleep well, Elfbiter |
| 15:12 |
Aury (aurysa) |
I'm off as well, take care everyone :)) |
| 15:12 |
Aury (aurysa) |
pleasant dreams Elfbiter |
| 15:12 |
Beth Ghostraven |
nini Elfbiter |
| 15:12 |
KayCooper |
Bye Aury |
| 15:12 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
tells the ferrets to attack neo |
| 15:12 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Goodnight Aury |
| 15:12 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
many thanks Neo! |
| 15:13 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
No problem, anytime! |
| 15:13 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Thank you for the meeting, Neo :) |
| 15:13 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Have a good dinner! |
| 15:13 |
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Aury (aurysa) waves |
| 15:13 |
Magda Kamenev (magdalena.kamenev) |
Thank you, Neo. |
| 15:13 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Hold the fort |
| 15:13 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Be seeing you |
| 15:13 |
Kamilah Hauptmann |
Traditional griefing. |
| 15:13 |
Magda Kamenev (magdalena.kamenev) |
Night, Elf. |
| 15:13 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
that was interesting |
| 15:13 |
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Zahra Ethaniel chuckles |
| 15:13 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Grabs the transcript and stuffs it into a burlap sack |
| 15:14 |
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Kamilah Hauptmann curtsies |
| 15:14 |
Magda Kamenev (magdalena.kamenev) |
No kidnapping the transcript. |
| 15:14 |
Zahra Ethaniel |
Take care Everyone : ) |
| 15:14 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
TTFN! |
| 15:14 |
Tora the Explorer (toraonna.thane) |
thanks, neo, for everything you do! we're in good hands :-D |
| 15:14 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
I feel like I need a vat of hands. :) |
| 15:15 |
KayCooper |
Thanks Neo, see you around everyone :) |
| 15:15 |
Beth Ghostraven |
I"m sure that's available in SL, Neo |
| 15:15 |
NeoBokrug Elytis |
Take it easy everyone! |
| 15:15 |
Katie (katie.canningham) |
(You're in good hands with AllSim) |
| 15:15 |
Beth Ghostraven |
you too! |
| 15:15 |
Mari Moonbeam |
bon appetit Guv |